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Old 11-01-23, 11:30 PM
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Toe links durable aftermarket options street use?

My suspension is all relatively fresh pillowballs, arms, bushings, sway bar end links, coilovers, tie rods etc (all less than 4000 miles). Street only car, not driven too hard. Maybe 280 crank HP with the light mods it has.

For the rear toe links I was loathe to spend $800+ on stockers, and the bushings seemed too finicky and delicate for me to have them pressed in and out by local machine shops. In the end I went with TCS toe links because colour (dislike all the bright stuff that sticks out) as most of the aftermarkets seemed to be the same mold with different branding.

I recently found the TCS's have play in them already, and one side had a bit of corrosion and pitting. I thought it might be because they have no boot, but then my Improved Racing sway bar end links have held up like champs and are wide open and gather more grit.

Am looking for a higher quality, more durable toe link than the TCS without going full OEM. Suggestions based on real world use?
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Just replace the rod ends. They aren't very expensive.
Make sure to choose something of the same strength and articulation level but of higher quality.
You will want something with a teflon liner.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie
Just replace the rod ends. They aren't very expensive.
Make sure to choose something of the same strength and articulation level but of higher quality.
You will want something with a teflon liner.
Bloody brilliant. I didn't think about that at all. Seems like the bolt hole is 3/8". And I recall one end (or both?) are left hand threaded.

Links to any reccos? I'm seeing a ton of RC car stuff, and Grainger. https://www.grainger.ca/en/product/F...24/p/GGF20G031
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Bloody brilliant. I didn't think about that at all. Seems like the bolt hole is 3/8". And I recall one end (or both?) are left hand threaded.

Links to any reccos? I'm seeing a ton of RC car stuff, and Grainger. https://www.grainger.ca/en/product/F...24/p/GGF20G031
Pegasus is my choice for rod ends - theirs have consistent high quality and just the right amount of ball tightness (it seems to me they must spec that to their suppliers) to keep out dirt w/o excess friction. Other sources ball tightness's vary all over the place.
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You need one end to thread in the other direction as the other to get that turnbuckle effect that most adjustable links rely on. You will want to measure your part to see if the part is threaded for a metric or imperial size, find out the size, as well as the eyelet size, before shopping.

Down here in burgerland, I'd suggest McMaster-Carr, but I don't think you guys have that option. I'll ask some Canadian friends where they go for those joints and report back.
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You need one end to thread in the other direction as the other to get that turnbuckle effect that most adjustable links rely on. You will want to measure your part to see if the part is threaded for a metric or imperial size, find out the size, as well as the eyelet size, before shopping.

Down here in burgerland, I'd suggest McMaster-Carr, but I don't think you guys have that option. I'll ask some Canadian friends where they go for those joints and report back.
I don't like some of the rodends McM offers. When I questioned their source(s) they would not tell me where they were from. I don't trust generic Chinesium parts, so to me they are not a good source, especially for a safety-related suspension part.
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the bushings on the OE links are actually quite easy, no press needed, a nut, bolt and the right size sockets will do the job
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FK and Aurora bearings are some of the highest quality out there and their price reflects this. They are available from various vendors.
https://www.fkrodends.com/
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/gr...GroupID=RODEND

For a street car, it is worthwhile to use these types of bearing seals to keep some of the grit out.
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...oduct=3077-001

The Rotary Extreme toe links I have been using for decades and many tens of thousands of miles wore well because they use high quality rod ends (FK or Aurora).
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Originally Posted by pzr2
You need one end to thread in the other direction as the other to get that turnbuckle effect that most adjustable links rely on. You will want to measure your part to see if the part is threaded for a metric or imperial size, find out the size, as well as the eyelet size, before shopping.

Down here in burgerland, I'd suggest McMaster-Carr, but I don't think you guys have that option. I'll ask some Canadian friends where they go for those joints and report back.
Cheers! That would be great.
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
FK and Aurora bearings are some of the highest quality out there and their price reflects this. They are available from various vendors.
https://www.fkrodends.com/
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/gr...GroupID=RODEND

For a street car, it is worthwhile to use these types of bearing seals to keep some of the grit out.
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...oduct=3077-001

The Rotary Extreme toe links I have been using for decades and many tens of thousands of miles wore well because they use high quality rod ends (FK or Aurora).
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Funny enough, replacing the rod ends on aftermarket rear toe links was one of the very first things I did when I bought my car.
In hindsight, they were probably fine, they were just slightly corroded and stiff from the car sitting for so long.
I remember considering measuring the threads and sourcing them on my own, but ultimately just ordering them from the people who made the links.
It probably would have been a good idea to make sure they were teflon lined. Metal on metal is just asking for problems.
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Originally Posted by Valkyrie
Funny enough, replacing the rod ends on aftermarket rear toe links was one of the very first things I did when I bought my car.
In hindsight, they were probably fine, they were just slightly corroded and stiff from the car sitting for so long.
I remember considering measuring the threads and sourcing them on my own, but ultimately just ordering them from the people who made the links.
It probably would have been a good idea to make sure they were teflon lined. Metal on metal is just asking for problems.
Yeah, always learning . I did clean and grease them up which stopped the stickiness, but they still have play so will need the change.
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I buy the higher end Aurora teflon rod and spherical bearings from Pegasus. Pay attention to the load ratings. This typically indicates lifespan expectation. There are boot kits out there too that help to keep them sealed as well.
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Yeah, always learning . I did clean and grease them up which stopped the stickiness, but they still have play so will need the change.
Grease is going to attract dirt. It’s a no-no for unsealed parts.
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