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Old 07-24-13, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Montego
Know your audience.

Street racing has been part of american culture from the 50's. This is a car forum, which coincidentally has an entire section dedicated to such events.
Besides, I'm the one that started it. Don't flame him.
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Originally Posted by cr-rex
oh really, theres a section on here dedicated to street racing? please show me....

is the the racing kills loung that has the little sub-text that says "The RX-7 Club and IB in no way supports or endorses illegal street racing in any way, shape or form, and highly recommends against any illegal activities."
ah I bet you think you got something there don't you, young grasshopper... Remember I have 10 more years of forum history than you. Now why do you think that statement is even there? What if I told you that I yes ME and along with a few others had a role in why that statement was added... What if I told you that a few years back the mods completely revamped the kills section (that used to contain street racing under the tittle) to legally sactioned racing and banning illegal street racing. After much debating the section was actually closed, but the debate went on. Finally the section was reopened with a disclaimer. So yes the only reason that section is there because we, who condone street racing fought for it.

https://www.rx7club.com/comments-sug...ection-742154/

Some of the highlights....

Originally Posted by Montego
******* gay

It was a very entertaining section. Welcome to America where testosterone and letting your ***** drop is a thing of the past. The younger gen is full of pussies


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however if your going to use that logic

i suggest getting rid of, or heavly moderating the single turbo section, rotary performance, all the ems subforums, parts sections etc etc for anyone buying, selling, giving or trying to recivive information on non factory emmssions equipment that we are all using in our cars which ranges from a basic fix it ticket to fedral offences

all thoes ems's we use, illegal, non factory emmissoins, ported engines, new turbo's et cetc etc etc are defff not legal

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You have to also look into county/city regulations as far as emissions go. So it's not very "illegal" now, is it?

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modification of factory emmmissions is fedral, i dont care if you state says you can replace your ecu with a pfc, big brother says you cant
Originally Posted by Icemark
But back to the subject...

Not one person has posted a valid reason to even keep the section, well alone change it back.

Sure there are people saying that the forum is going down hill because they now can't post how they blew past a integra or a vett on highway 80. And there have been people saying how it was all fiction anyway.

But not one person has given a decent reason for the section to even still exist, in any form other than a vague- it's entertaining to read the made up stories answer that Jeff posted.

Yet, there have been quite a few people posting on how happy they are with the change, and why it should have been changed, or why it should be gone altogether.

So, I challenge you XxMerlinxX or montego or TheDriver216 or whoever, instead of bashing and whinnying... to actually post up a valid reason.

Is posting a kill that important to your ego, that now not only the winning/beating of someone else in some stop light race felt so good, that you also had to post about it there... full well knowing that half the stories in that section were BS anyway. Or do you have a good reason?

But here I am, I am fully willing to listen to your reason, and if it really is a valid reason (that you can justify in a thought out way) I will be more than happy to change it back (though we will add a disclaimer that we don't support illegal street racing, if that happens). rowtareh came up with a valid reason for the change/deletion. Give me your intelligent argument for returning it in some form (or even not deleting the section altogether).

But if you can't post a valid reason, then go home and stop posting in this thread, because it is getting old and this change is staying without a good, well thought out, and valid reason.
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Ok I’ll take that on.

Icemark it’s very simple. We as males and car enthusiasts enjoyed that section. And that sir IS a valid reason.



If you don’t agree then answer this question honestly:

Have ever had sex with no intent of procreating? Of course you have… Why did you do it? Why do you continue to do it? Give me one VALID reason on why you do it other than enjoyment.
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Okay I can buy that. But what did you like about it? I can't imagine that every single post got you off. What did you enjoy? And why would it be less enjoyable posting in there now?

Did you enjoy posting about races that never happened... did you enjoy posting about races that did happen? Does breaking the law make you happy? Man...I don't think you guys have an argument for it, that isn't "because we liked it".

And what changes can be made to make you happy about the section, as well as the other members that are frankly offended by the fact it was about a bunch of street racing.

Common guys... this is like pulling teeth.


You asked for a valid reason I gave you one. I asked the same question back to you about a different subject and you agreed. But now you go off on a tangent asking additional questions in an attempt to take merit away from what I listed under enjoyment.

Simple as that. We enjoy it.

D
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Man...I don't think you guys have an argument for it, that isn't "because we liked it".

pretty valid reason don't you think? Just like the sex thing: Why do you do it? Most males spend a lot of time, money, and effort in trying to get a piece of *** with no intention of bringing a child into this world... Including yourself.
Originally Posted by rowtareh?
Section reopened. Disclaimer added. Have fun.
So yeah there is a section for it...

Originally Posted by cr-rex
or is there somewhere else that i'm not seeing? just give it up... street racing is wrong and reckless in most cases. what i said was general comment directed at no one. why are YOU the only one that felt the need to comment on it?
Because you felt the need to get on your high horse that's why. This is a car forum where we discuss cars and the subjects related to them not a tampon forum where we talk about how much absorbtion a certain type can handle.



Originally Posted by getgone
Besides, I'm the one that started it. Don't flame him.
lol Telling someone that they are on a high horse isn't a flame. And yeah be careful on your way down the ladder as well








Edit- Since you started it. Care to explain this post:

Originally Posted by getgone
danced around one on the street some time ago. These evaluations are always subject to whether the driver could drive, but I certainly didn't feel the car had anything on the FD. He layed it out there, and I met the challenge w/o much ado. Don't know why it would ever be a superior track choice.
Taken from here:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati.../#post10086510

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Old 07-24-13, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Montego
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You have too much time, sir

I was only pulled over in the fd once, they went over over everything and tried to do me for modifying my washer tank so I couldn't check the level of the fluid & for tinted tails (Stock '99s). I explained it was stock and a warning light on the dash illuminated when it was low...They made me go to a garage and prove the above was oem

There are few cops around here, and those that are around are generally ignore the FD...Even with strait through pipes
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^^it's slooow day here lol
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I hope a mod deletes all this banter as to restore the thread.
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I hope it stays.
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Originally Posted by cr-rex
I hope a mod deletes all this banter as to restore the thread.

^ Why?

There were no direct insults and both of you conducted yourselves in an adult manner in your discussion. Not to mention you also got an education in the process.


People need to stop being so sensitive.
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Btw i really don't agree about the "in american car culture" thing....

It's like to say that drugs production and export is in the "culture" or "DNA" of various state...


I really know that street racing is way famous/common in some place.....that really don't delete the fact that law is against this....



I really understand what cr-rex say...

For example here in Italy on forum too it's better not to talk about street racing, becouse sometimes there are policeman that register on car enthusiast forum....and if they read about you racing in some place they start to look at fixed cameras registration (there are a lot here)


We have to say that if they see 2 or more car street racing only the video (and the photo of the plate) is enough for police to search for your car, and when they found it they take it and destroy or sell it.....


That's the reason becouse people from other place probably have different fear/complain about openly talk about this on public forum...


I talk about my nation thing...don't know about Japan... (when i go on holiday in Japan i only ride a bike XD)
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pulled over for:

exhaust too loud
cop thought my car was a ferrari and wanted to check
tail lights (factory)
speeding
no cats
speed contest
street racing
careless driving
fleeing and alluding
speeding
speeding
speeding
exhaust too loud...


most of the stuff was dismissed, the careless driving was not.
Old 07-25-13, 03:03 PM
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totally forgot that i started this thread...but i've picked up a great ticket story since then

i got pulled over heading to North Miami Beach, cop gave 8 tickets...
yes...8...

Ride height too low: he said that there is no possible way to safely operate my car with it being that low

Muffler too large and loud

tints too dark

tinted taillights (he was in utter disbelief when i told him that the FD just has dark taillights like that...i even pulled up a picture on my phone, and he still gave me a ticket)

stickers on the rear window

This was all before my build...and the car was pretty much stock on the outside
oh and the best part was when he was arguing with me that my Greddy E-01 boost controller was a cop radar...

luckily they all got thrown out in court loll


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Edit- Since you started it. Care to explain this post:



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Originally Posted by getgone

danced around one on the street some time ago. These evaluations are always subject to whether the driver could drive, but I certainly didn't feel the car had anything on the FD. He layed it out there, and I met the challenge w/o much ado. Don't know why it would ever be a superior track choice.

Taken from here:
320 rwhp FD vs. 2010 Porsche Cayman S


Yeah, I was in the process of overtaking the schmuck and he decided to crowd me from getting back into the lane for an upcoming turn. That ended quickly, however. Moreover, the group I intended my comments for are the banzai bunch doing the high speed (100+ mph) runs and the dedicated street racers ('3 honks lets go'). I suspect you are the latter and my only advice to you is take it to the track. That's where I get my fix. You're dealing with Aunt Bea and Susie Teenage Texter on the street. You're going to kill somebody.

And, yes, I have street raced regrettably in my 40+ years of driving. Never at high speeds like some of this bunch, however.
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Originally Posted by curacaosfinest
totally forgot that i started this thread...but i've picked up a great ticket story since then

i got pulled over heading to North Miami Beach, cop gave 8 tickets...
yes...8...

....luckily they all got thrown out in court loll

If I may ask, what was the court's premise for dismissing the tickets?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Speed of light
If I may ask, what was the court's premise for dismissing the tickets?

Thanks.
I brought them "receipts" and "pictures" of the car put back to stock
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Originally Posted by SA3R
Got a $250.00 ticket for tail lights that were "clearly too dark and not manufacturer OEM"

I have factory tail lights. They are tinted from the factory.

So drove to my local Mazda dealership and had them inspect the car. The service manager signed a letter stating the rear lights were 100% factory fitted.

Took that letter to the local Police. Fines were reversed. Now I carry a copy of that letter in the car, in case some police officer tries to be smart about it again.

** Edit- Same officer also insisted that the car "could not be a 1992 manufacture, its clearly too new." which prompted him to investigate the VIN and registration number on the side of the road. I used my phone to google FD3S RX-7 and showed him the production run of the FD. He was satisfied with that, and then the rear lights immediately came into question.
I don't know why I chose your post to quote but vein harassed for tail lights pisses me off. Especially in the US. (In Canada as well but I can sort of see how the amount of RHD cars might give some officers ground to believe that the lights are illegal in Canada, even despite a thorough OOP inspection.)

Essentially you could have a 100% stock FD, and be ticketed for the tail lights. Then you have to - on your own time and funds- collect sufficient documentation and proof that they are in fact legal and oem, then you need to take several hours off work (potentially "costing" you hundreds in unearned wages) to go to the courthouse to show these documents to the prosecutor.

In the end, you are out time and money due to someone else's (the officer's in this case) ignorance. If your ticket is thrown out like that and you prove you h e done nothing wrong, why should you have any cost (time or money) incurred to you. You should be refunded any costs that you can prove to be entirely related to proving your "innocence." And even then that doesn't make up or your list time..

That's just something that really bugs me
Old 07-26-13, 01:56 PM
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$150 dollar ticket for not having my lights on (at 9am) because until its fully sunny outside then i can turn off my lights.... Not sunrise when i can see....

fuking stupid cop
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Originally Posted by getgone
Yeah, I was in the process of overtaking the schmuck and he decided to crowd me from getting back into the lane for an upcoming turn. That ended quickly, however.
here let me re-quote it for you

Originally Posted by getgone
danced around one on the street some time ago...... but I certainly didn't feel the car had anything on the FD. He layed it out there, and I met the challenge w/o much ado....
That doesn't sound like a guy who was crowding you. 'Danced around? I met the challenge? Riiight.... That sounds more like an all out street race than some guy crowding you.


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Moreover, the group I intended my comments for are the banzai bunch doing the high speed (100+ mph) runs and the dedicated street racers ('3 honks lets go'). I suspect you are the latter and my only advice to you is take it to the track.
but you didn't say that did you? and no you would be incorrect in suspecting that I am a street racer by any means. In fact, I suspect that you and I may be similar in that way. Because I don't go to organized street racing gatherings, nor do I look for street racers. But if someone wants to play and if I see that the conditions are safe ENOUGH (i.e. no traffic), I'll may lay down the hammer. The big difference between you and me is that I am not a hypocrite about it.

Originally Posted by getgone
You're dealing with Aunt Bea and Susie Teenage Texter on the street. You're going to kill somebody.
Right back at you.

Originally Posted by getgone
...my only advice to you is take it to the track. That's where I get my fix. And, yes, I have street raced regrettably in my 40+ years of driving.
so you have advice for me and you regrettably street raced in your 40+ years of driving... Well that's cool and I can respect that but I find your newly enlightened state quite interesting. So tell me what were you 48 years old when you had that epiphany? Because you have been driving for 40+ years and very likely you obtained your license at 16 so that makes you somewhere in the vicinity of 56. Interestingly enough, the Porsche Cayman S came out in 2005 and you actually got the opportunity to DANCE with one on the street. For argument's sake I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you raced one fresh off the dealership in 2005. Now given that was 8 years ago it puts you at 48 years old (roughly) when you last street raced. So what I am really getting at is that you were a full grown 48 year old man who knows better and isn't swayed by the inexperiences in life and yet you chose to partake in the good'ol past time of street racing. And yet you come in here and preach. Nice.



But IMO there is a time and place for such activities and that does not involve other traffic. And in fact I do chastise people who race in traffic and put others in danger. But two dudes going at it in the middle of the night? nope not at all

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But IMO there is a time and place for such activities and that does not involve other traffic. And in fact I do chastise people who race in traffic and put others in danger. But two dudes going at it in the middle of the night? nope not at all


I got it. Your smarter than everybody else. Your king of the universe. Lost in ur delusion, but 'smarter' than the rest of us.

You keep working the pile. I'm going to go play golf. . . . do something important.
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My last "encounter" with the police was kind of interesting. I had just filled my gas tank, and was at the air station checking my tires. Parked next to me was a police car. The officer had gone in to the convenience store to get something. When he came out, he noticed my car and stopped to chat. He told me that he almost bought a CYM a few years back, and always regretted not buying it. He was almost drooling over my car. Finally he couldn't take it any more (seeing mine, and wanting one), and had to get in his police car and leave. He was very nice, but was obviously very envious. It was a funny encounter
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Originally Posted by getgone
I got it. Your smarter than everybody else. Your king of the universe. Lost in ur delusion, but 'smarter' than the rest of us.

You keep working the pile. I'm going to go play golf. . . . do something important.

You sir are diverting... Its obvious that your feathers got ruffled due to being called out on your hypocrisy... Enjoy your golf STREET RACER
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Originally Posted by Montego
You sir are diverting... Its obvious that your feathers got ruffled due to being called out on your hypocrisy... Enjoy your golf STREET RACER
Yep, I've never been so exposed. You're my hero. Gosh, just think, you can see through walls with that penetrating x-ray vision. Hell, you can even see things that don't exist (e.g., imaginary friends). Every body rise up . . . . vote Montego their hero!!!!!

WE WANT MONTEGO! WE WANT MONTEGO! WE WANT MONTEGO!

HE'S OUR SAVIOR FOR STREET RACING IDIOCY.
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Montego and getgone, stop the pointless back and forth bickering.
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Originally Posted by RENESISFD
Montego and getgone, stop the pointless back and forth bickering.
You are very correct. This is seriously pointless.
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Anyway...

I've had my car since Sept of 2011 and I got pulled over in December of 2012 for doing 95 in a 70 on I-10 going to Palm Springs. The cop was hiding behind an over-pass and caught me fair and square. It was my girlfriend and I's first date and I was extremely nice to the officer, so he wrote me up for 80 in a 70. I just paid the ticket online.

Then I got pulled in February of 2013 for 90 in a 65. This one however, I disputed because I know for a fact that the fastest my car reached that night was 80. The car in front of me however, was the one speeding. But what doesn't make sense is that the car in front of me, was about a half mile ahead. So the cop stopped me and told me my speed, and I proceeded to tell him that the car in front of me was visibly pulling away, which indicates a much faster rate of speed. But he insisted that he got me with the radar doing 90. And I continued to tell him that he pulled the wrong car. So he went back to his car, wrote me up for 83, told me that he didn't give me the extra 2 mph because he didn't want me getting a reckless driving on my record. I accepted it and paid the ticket when it came in the mail.
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