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Hi All,

I saw that Hagerty just updated their values for September. After a big drop-off for all FDs a year ago, the latest valuations really make sense to me - the "Concours" and "Excellent" (conditions 1 and 2) cars saw a nice bounce-back, while the "Good" and "Fair" (conditions 3 and 4) cars remained at the lower pricing.

The thing that I always wonder about with the FD market is that it almost seems that there are 2 different markets: stock (or nearly so) and modified (often extremely so). I'm assuming Hagerty would be dealing with the first category.

Just wanted to share!

Link:
https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtoo...ort?vbe=104497

rxmiles

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Nice to see they're appreciating again. Not quite sure what made them plummet in the first place. Maybe the median is set will all the rollers being sold?

pjr

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Does anyone have a sense of the cost for an annual Hagerty policy? Assuming the Condition 1 in terms of value.

Montego

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**** the 7 my ghia is worth some bank!

https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtoo...port?vbe=87293

Dammit... Apparently I've been spending my money on the wrong car

Edit- PS. I don't know why I even care, it's not like I'm getting rid of either one of them. Ever

pjr

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Yeah, Ghia convertibles are rising... hell, have you seen the 21 window microbus prices lately? $120k and up!

Montego

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Yeah that's nuts....too bad I never really cared for them otherwise I'd have one

So far the record stands at $235k:

VW Bus sells for a groovy $235,000 - Dec. 5, 2014

technomentor

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I have my cars insured with Hagerty. The price of the policy is dependent on the replacement value you want guaranteed. You pick the replacement value, they tell you the premium. I will say that I switched to Hagerty after having my cars insured with GEICO and I saved a lot of money.

Hagerty won't insure your car if you use it as a daily driver.

silverTRD

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I was quotes about 400 bucks for the year for a 15k value with 3500 miles allowed I think it was.

armans

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Interesting to observe Mazda Cosmo made a wild climb last year according to Hagerty

https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtoo...port?vbe=24346

Montego

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Yeah G a lot of people have many fond memories of buses and I take it that is why they are bringing in the $$. I've always like ghias so that's what I purchased one back in the day. I bought it for $4750 and in very decent condition. I hadn't seen the prices lately and just happen to look them up. Lol so I've been throwing my money at the wrong car. Man if I would have spend 25% of the cash that I have on my 7 my ghia would be amazing. Oh well I guess it's time to open up the wallet on that ride.

Even still, its nice to know that the car is worth 4-5 times my purchase price. Another nutty thing is that back in the day I also bought genuine Porsche Fuchs with tires at a vw swapmeet for $500 bucks and now they are worth $3000-4000. Didn't see that coming either

Montego

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I always loved them. As a teenager I thought they were awesome and therefore I ended up buying one while I was still in college. They are extremely light and IIRC the weigh in somewhere in between 1700-1900 lbs (depending on the year and the source). All I know that you can literally push them down the street with one hand (once you get going).

As a reference here are two old pics of my car, before and after:



I repainted the car to a VW silver, got the porsche wheels, dropped it, removed the side trim and turn signals.


Now I am gearing up to redo it again. In the plan is a complete redo. New floor pans, repaint to green, reinstall side trim and turn signals, attain the bumper guards that came stock, change the top and interior to tan and put on some white walls to go with the porsche wheels. Basically I'm going with the cal-resto look.

Sort of like this but in olive green with a tan top and porsche wheels:

Fritz Flynn

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It's like a mini rolls coupe

Montego

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pjr

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Hey that silver version of your Ghia is awesome! Love the clean look. I wouldn't change a thing.... except maybe replace the front bumper with bumperettes.

pjr

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P.S. Oh what the hell, jam a corvair flat 6 turbo in the back too :-)

P.P.S. Got a Hagerty quote and it was like double of Grundy and Heacock. I did check the option that I would potentially drive it to work 1x to 2x per month. Wonder if that is what drove it up?

Montego

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thanks!

Actually for my cars, I'm a purist when it comes to vdubs as well... Aircooled and carburated all the way

armans

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Another interesting graph by Hagerty and somewhat related to us rx7 community too:

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...ws%209-23-2015

pjr

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I had a Corvair Turbo (1963) as well as a factory 4-carb 1966. Fun cars! I know some people put them in VWs and 356s back in the day, but now it is kind of heresy. It would be like putting a Chevy V8 into a FD. (oops). :-)

Montego

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No don't get me wrong it is tempting. What some people are doing these days is putting a subaru boxer engine in them. If you think about it, it is actually a good idea. Modern engine with all the perks, 200HP (which is pretty nuts considering how light Vdubs are) no more finicky adjustments, and more reliable. However, I'm not too keen on putting anything other than a VW engine in there.

Believe it or not I'm kinda partial to the putt, putt that the VW engine makes. Mine is a completely stock 1500 with a whopping 50 Hp so I've been really contemplating upping it to a 1776 (70-100 hp) or quite possibly a 1915 (85-130hp). That should give me plenty of umph without the heachaches of being overly modified.

It hasn't changed... In fact I find the VW guys are a little more extreme with "what is blasphemy". For instance there was a discussion a while back on how 17 inch wheels do not belong on any aircooled vw. err ok... lol

I liked covairs in college, very cool cars to say the least. I sort of remember that there was a particular model that had drama attached to it. I forget what it was tho

pjr

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Corvair interiors were awesome... especially the dash on the Corsa or even the Spyder. Beautiful, even today!

And yeah, Corvairs alays came with a good dose of drama. :-)

GK1707

Just bumping this thread bc I had an interesting thought after a conversation with a buddy who has an RHD imported car (Nissan Cefiro). In about 3 years the 25 year rule will apply to the first batch of RHD FDs from all over, making them eligible for importation and legal registration here in the states. Anyone thinks it'll have any affect on the market of the current FDs in the states?

Montego

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Lol 50 bucks... According to an inflation calculator $50 in 1964 comes out to $384.38 today. NOOOIIICE!!! love it.

here is a blast from the past for you, a 1954 VW bug:



when I was in high school an older friend of mine had a slammed 59'. Candy apple red, chromed out engine. Really nice car. It really looked like a 54 but honestly I do not enough about bugs to tell what the differences were between the 59 and the 54


The answer is no . However you will always get those that say "NO UHHH! We will be flooded with imports, so many that we won't know what to do with them, it will rain FD's, we shall all bask on apex seals and premix, our shores and streets will be littered with broken down FD's left on the side of the road... The once coveted FD will now be as common as house fly"... yeah... yeah... whatever

If you are interested here is a read where it was discussed 2 months ago:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...ening-1086852/



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