doesn't seem too easy but i dunno... maybe i'll give it a shot
time to get a workshop manual or print them all out from pdf format...

 

it really is easy man. hell id almost do it for free if you payed my way out there. haha!!!! got enough money for a round trip ticket from tennessee?

paul

 

If you're in the south bay, give Ivan a call. He's in the Sunnyvale area.

I'll send you a PM with his phone number.

 

Well, I'll tell you, it's not that easy, for everyone. It really depends on how mechanicly incline you are and how much patience you have.

If you need the car back running asap, then I would suggest you take it to a mechanic. If you have another car to drive where you can take your time (and you already have the tools), then I would suggest you at least attempt it yourself.

 

as great as it might be to meet you paul... i'm broke lol
thanks though

 

mechanical level from 1 to 10 (5=avg): 5
however, gimme a computer and i'll work wonders lol

it's probably going to the mechanic, need it up and running ASAP

 

man, theyre gonna charge you an arm and a leg to do this. youre looking at atleast 600 if you go to a mechanic.

whoever you go to, make sure they are experienced with the rats nest.

paul

 

yep of course
doing all the searching and researching i can on shops

i got about 2 places that are experienced with rotaries and another shop that i trust pretty well

however, if you're ever in town paul, let me know haha

 

hey, without a doubt!!! ive only been to california once and i was stuck in the damn desert the whole time. 3 weeks in the middle of the mojave with nothing but men and women who LOOK like men kinda sucks!!!

NTC june 2002 baby!!!! rock the box!!! hehe, sorry abou that.

paul

 

hey look what i found ... what do you guys think

Primary:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1876414045

Secondary:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1876414005

they are 93's but i'm guessing injectors aren't year specific (but generation specific of course) ... i have a 94

what do you guys think?

oh, each description says that it comes with it's own FPD which brings me to my question, do i need 1 or 2 FPD's when i bring it to the shop ?

-chim

 

You only need one FPD.

However, if you are taking it to the shop, do not get any parts before hand. Let the shop figure out what wrong with the car and get the parts themselves.

 

Just a random thought, but my car has been smelling like fuel ever since I put on the downpipe. I believe I have an exhaust leak between the downpipe and the cat. Could this cause those symptoms? I never had any fuel smell before the dp and I can see a little exhause leaking out on a cold day.

 

i don't think i have a downpipe so it's probably not the cause of my problems

 

Fuel and exhaust have completely different smells. If you have an exhaust leak, it will not smell like fuel. You might be confusing the two, but if you smell fuel, you better track it down before your car goes up in flames.

 

Oh, and about replacing the FPD. It is NOT easy! I don't know why rotorbrain is so convinced that it is 'very easy', but it is not. There is a reason it costs between $400 to $600 in labor to do the job. It is very time consuming and tedious, especially if you have never done it before. Removing the rat's nest is not a small task. No single step is extremely difficult, but if you're not careful you will end up breaking those brittle plastic nipples. If you don't have a lot of experience working on cars, I would recommend against doing it yourself, unless you have a knowledgable friend to help.

 

haha been saying it all along... i'm going to a mechanic

 

thank god for you guys!!...good thing i read this thread. ive been having the same prob on my FD, just yesterday i was warming up the car and as soon as i left the driveway i saw a wet spot underneath the car i was thinking maybe it was the coolant leaking (since i also have that prob) so i got out of the car and took a look at the wet spot...had to literally put my face on the driveway so i can smell it...and guess what?!?...IM LEAKING FUEL!!! i think its coming from the driver side...so i need help to get this fix...any feedbacks are greatly appreciated

 

it is horribly easy. all you have to do is label everything. i dont know why everyone thinks it is so hard. yeah, its time consuming.. . . but what isnt. it hurts your back a bit, but its worth doing yourself. all you have to do on the vacuum hoses is take a pair of diagonal cutters and snip small pieces off of the hose where it goes over the nipple. . . until you can simply pull it out. it is VERY EASY!!! id conscider the fuel filter a pain in the *** before i said the rats nest is one. i never said the rats nest wasnt time consuming. it took me a whole day to do it. . . you need a lot of breaks. i still think you should do it yourself. . . it doesnt take a massive entourage of tools to do it. youll save money in the long-run and a sense of accomplishment at the same time. you claim that youre out of $$$. . . then you should be looking into doing it yourself. just order the parts i told you to and do it. its that simple.

paul

 

it takes confidence and an understanding of what should be done when approaching something as complex as the rats nest. if you dont have the confidence then i wouldnt do it. youll only mess it up and blame me in the end.


paul

and BTW, the "understanding" im talking about means that you have to realize that you must be careful when removing everything. if you dont have either of these and a steady hand then by all means let someone else do it.

 

To me, if a job will take about 8 hours to do, I don't consider that a 'very easy' job. Like I said, there is not a single step that is extremely difficult, but add up about 200 fairly easy jobs, and it turns into a very big job. In my opinion, calling it easy is very misleading. To me, pulling off the UIM is easy, but disconnecting and labeling the 50 vacuum hoses, carefully cutting each one, and wrestling with the phillips head screws that hold the rat's nest in... the job borders on difficult.

Changing the fuel filter is MUCH easier, in my opinion. Honestly, I don't see what all the fuss is about. It took me about 45 minutes, start to finish, the first time I did it. There is more than enough room to reach both hands around the filter to pull the hoses off. Other than getting covered in gasoline, it's not bad at all.

 

i just dont like messing around in the back . . . dunno . . . just me. the phillips headed screws should be replaced with hex headed bolts. i know its hard to reach some areas, but its not what everybody makes it up to be. . . its painful. thats it. not like theres any kind of odd engineering you have to do . . . thats what makes a task level go up to me. when your cutting up silicone hose at the kitchen table theres no real brain teaser there.

paul

 

I can agree with that. I just don't want to mislead people by saying the job is easy. Compared to most other jobs, it can be difficult.

 

you know what i find difficult? finding the reason koyo says their radiator is "drop in"!!! haha

paul

 

well i scheduled with m2 for next monday

4 hours labor for FPD
hopefully that'll be it... if i have to do the injector o-rings than that's another estimated 4 hours and labor rates are a grip load
$90/hr !!!!
oh well, that's the price i pay for their expertise

i think i'm gonna have other stuff done too
probably downpipe + new 02 sensor

 

If your gonna have someone in there, have your Vacuum hoses replaced as well. Most of the time the injectors just need to be cleaned and balanced, and new 0-rings as well. Just send them RC engineering it's only $25 an injector. The job is straightforward, there aren't any parts that are hard to reach, and if you have a basic wrench/socket set you can take everything out and put it back in. It is very time consuming and you should definately take your time with the hoses. Chiminoid, I know your not doing the job yourself, this is for anyone that does a search on the topic. I changed everything myself, took 3 days ( had to wait for the injectors to come back from R.C. engineering). I replaced: Fuel pulsation dampner (with rubber gasket), cleaned and balanced injectors with new o-rings, new injector insulators, vacuum hose job (used baker precision hose), and new coolant hoses to/from throttle body. I know the job was done right, and have a much better understanding of how everything works in the car. If you want to tackle it yourself, just take your time.

eric