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Old Mar 1, 2023 | 04:18 PM
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slow-no wipers

Our wipers barley go, additionally if anything other low is used, they dont move.

Want to try and fix it.
I have read allot on the forum about fixing the linkage, motor switch etc...

Since the multi-function switch and motor are NLA, I want to see about getting them rebuilt.
I would rather pay someone with knowledge than take the risk of me damaging the part beyond repair.

Does anyone know someone in the US who can rebuild parts like these?
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 08:24 AM
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I don’t know one off-hand but thinking out loud, there’s a car restoration shop in my area that I’d probably call to ask. I doubt they do it in-house but they might know who would. Maybe you have similar shop(s) in your area?
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 09:10 AM
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I haven't had to deal with this problem on my FD yet, but there's a guy/shop that rebuilds/restores the FC wiper switches. Check out https://www.13betc.com/product/86-91...build-service/

If 13Betc can't rebuild the FD switch, they might be able to point you to someone else that can. Another option may be to find a used working FD switch assembly to swap in. For used parts, send a PM to forum user tomsn16 (Jim), to see if he has one, he sells lots of FD parts and is a great guy to do business with here.
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by all4fuun
Our wipers barley go, additionally if anything other low is used, they dont move.

Want to try and fix it.
I have read allot on the forum about fixing the linkage, motor switch etc...

Since the multi-function switch and motor are NLA, I want to see about getting them rebuilt.
I would rather pay someone with knowledge than take the risk of me damaging the part beyond repair.

Does anyone know someone in the US who can rebuild parts like these?
Take the wiper motor off and pop off the drive busing. Operate the assembly by hand and see if it's hard to move. If it is, blow apart the cowl and service the linkage. Take apart and grease the pivot points, it should move much more freely when complete.
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 09:49 AM
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I found these guys online and called them.
https://www.classicwipers.com/

I called them and they have some expertise in fixing our vintage of Japanese wiper motors.
Cost is about $225 to repair and $275 to restore to like new condition.

Going take out the motor and linkage and decide what to do next.
I will call these guys as well
https://www.13betc.com/product/86-91...build-service/
Thanks allot!
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Old Mar 2, 2023 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by all4fuun
I found these guys online and called them.
https://www.classicwipers.com/

I called them and they have some expertise in fixing our vintage of Japanese wiper motors.
Cost is about $225 to repair and $275 to restore to like new condition.

Going take out the motor and linkage and decide what to do next.
I will call these guys as well
https://www.13betc.com/product/86-91...build-service/
Thanks allot!
The linkage can be a bit confusing at the wiper pivot points. Clean them with a wire brush and push down on the outer part to squash the spring washer, that should reveal a tiny spring clip at the base of the wiper mount which can be removed with a fine pick. With the spring retainer out everything should slide apart for you to clean the pivot thoroughly before applying a new lubricant.
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 07:48 AM
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@all4fuun you inspired me to service my linkage last night so I did a quick write-up.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati.../#post12551291
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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 10:53 AM
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Super helpful, thanks allot!
A question, does that retaining ring want to jump off the shaft when removed?
It would be super hard to find on the floor 10ft away.

Also, did all the plastic push pins on the cowel that need to be removed break when you took them off?

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Old Mar 3, 2023 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by all4fuun
Super helpful, thanks allot!
A question, does that retaining ring want to jump off the shaft when removed?
It would be super hard to find on the floor 10ft away.

Also, did all the plastic push pins on the cowel that need to be removed break when you took them off?
You have to remove cowel screw covers from back-side to avoid cover breakage ....not easy. I use a pic to release the clips.
If you try to pry out covers from top-side you will scratch and ruin your cowel.
Like many Mazda parts, the covers are made to go on but not off.
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Old Mar 4, 2023 | 07:14 AM
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Also, did all the plastic push pins on the cowel that need to be removed break when you took them off?
Like above, I also use a dental pick set. But even being careful those little tabs on the covers often break from years of UV. Not a big deal. A daub of clear silicone going back on holds them just fine. And a bit easier to pull off again if ever needed.
BTW, if you booger up a cover and can find a 2nd. Gen. Ford Probe at the local U pull it salvage yard, they were made by MAZDA and use identical screw covers in both sizes.

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Old Mar 5, 2023 | 11:05 PM
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Not to put down classicwipers.com, but I did have them rebuild my motor and I saw little difference. Their services may work if your motor has a lot of miles on it. I only had about 75k miles on my car when I had it rebuilt. I think there is ultimately a lack of voltage getting to the motor. I remember reading a thread a while ago saying that the issue is not the motor, but the switch supplying the power. I need to do some testing a play around with a multimeter.
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Old Mar 6, 2023 | 10:02 AM
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I have my doubts a rebuild will help either, but my wipers barley go, so since everything is apart going to have the motor rebuilt.
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Old May 1, 2023 | 02:07 PM
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Cleaned and greased the linkage, got the motor back and installed.
Now I have low speed and high speed
but no intermittent and no return once the wipers are turned off.

So I think the relay in the multi-function switch is bad.
I email the guy at https://www.13betc.com/product/86-91...build-service/ 10 times and never got a reply.

So until I figure out something else, I think I can jumper some of the wiring and get the return to work.
Wanted to see if anyone else has tried this before I do it.



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Old May 3, 2023 | 10:27 AM
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Old May 3, 2023 | 01:14 PM
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Anyone know the manufacturer part number for the intermittent relay?
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