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Old 07-04-04, 10:54 AM
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Ok guys,i'm in the middle of installing the profec b,and i found that i have the pills(orifices) build inside the nipples.So after a search i see that you must drill the pill for the wastegate .But i wonder,will it be a problem if i leave it there?I mean everybody says "drill" but not why..and its a pain to drill that little bastard..Also I have to remove a lot of stuff to clean the leftovers..So,drill or leave?

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Let's think a while about the TOTAL turbo control system.

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1) just not use that tube and block it off.
2) use a "T" fitting connectd to the common turbo outlet small tube in the "Y" pipe. That is the one that supplies pressure to the pressure tank. It is a better place as it see's the real combined turbo boost and does not have any pills.

See it wasn't that hard! One must learn how to analyze.
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Originally posted by cewrx7r1
Let's think a while about the TOTAL turbo control system.

Jee:
1) just not use that tube and block it off.
2) use a "T" fitting connectd to the common turbo outlet small tube in the "Y" pipe. That is the one that supplies pressure to the pressure tank. It is a better place as it see's the real combined turbo boost and does not have any pills.

See it wasn't that hard! One must learn how to analyze.
Hmmmm.That is something new but i don't think that it will control the spike during the transition right?Anyone else care to answer?
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Originally posted by cewrx7r1


Jee:
1) just not use that tube and block it off.
2) use a "T" fitting connectd to the common turbo outlet small tube in the "Y" pipe. That is the one that supplies pressure to the pressure tank. It is a better place as it see's the real combined turbo boost and does not have any pills.
This is funny, I'm actually re-doing my vacuum lines and end up doing that. I also agree with the wastegate getting a more accurate reading instead of only one turbo.
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EFS.O,

Take a couple of shots of OUZO and relax. Believe what I say. I have owned my R1 since June 1992, and work on them for fun and profit!

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Originally posted by cewrx7r1
EFS.O,

Take a couple of shots of OUZO and relax. Believe what I say. I have owned my R1 since June 1992, and work on them for fun and profit!

Garlos

LoL man if it goes well,if you ever come to Greece,Tons of Ouzo and a couple of chicks are waiting you(i produce my own OUZO).....
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As I understand it, you must drill out the restrictors if you want to control boost across the full spectrum of its possibilities, i.e. ~8 psi up to whatever. If you don't drill them and upgrade other airflow related components (IC, intake, exhaust), you may find that you are overboosting and/or spiking, and without drilling the restrictors, your profec WILL NOT reduce those conditions.

Note that you can pretty easily pull that little tree right out of the primary housing. Get a vice-grip style pair pf pliers, carefully clamp them onto the body of the tree, twist up and down while pulling. Comes out a little TOO easy...
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Originally posted by spurvo
As I understand it, you must drill out the restrictors if you want to control boost across the full spectrum of its possibilities, i.e. ~8 psi up to whatever. If you don't drill them and upgrade other airflow related components (IC, intake, exhaust), you may find that you are overboosting and/or spiking, and without drilling the restrictors, your profec WILL NOT reduce those conditions.

Note that you can pretty easily pull that little tree right out of the primary housing. Get a vice-grip style pair pf pliers, carefully clamp them onto the body of the tree, twist up and down while pulling. Comes out a little TOO easy...
Yep,thats another solution.If i remove the "tree" i can use the one from my old turbos without drilling(my old turbos don't have the pills)....but what Garlos suggested and what hondasr4kids wrote sounds logical and with less fuzz.Tomorrow i'm gonna give it a shot and see how it goes...

As for the full spectrum..i think you are right.btw i have only downpipe and efini y-pipe and i get spikes even with 2nd gear(12-13 psi)
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