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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Stop the childish arguing. The car is gone. I just wanted people to see what can happen if underestimate one of these cars.

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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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the whole time, i am just telling you to ADMIT you fucked up, ADMIT you were doing something stupid, ADMIT you cant drive for **** and move on
and you call me for "acting tough ****" about that?

i dont know... i have always been taught to admit it when i fucked up
fine is this what you what to here i fucked up!!!!!!!!
you happy now you little ****
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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damn that sucks, glad to see ur OK
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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now that you admit you fucked up.... clean up your attitude

remember, i am not the "little ****" that crashed my car
i did not make you crash your car
i was just sick of you defending yourself when it was completely your fault!
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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damn that sucks, glad to see ur OK
thanks
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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Alright, I am familiar with all parties involved, in fact, that FD was in my garage the night before getting a detail job. The car was as close to MINT as I've ever seen, near flawless exterior and completely flawless interior..simply beautiful. It's extrememly sad about the loss, but is is still 'just a car'. drivenfast788 is my son's friend (sacker90) and a truly nice guy. Was he ready for that much animal? Obviously not, but I wasn't ready when I wrecked a brand new 200SX nearly 30 years ago that my sister had 'loaned' to her from a dealership (salesman trying to score). Guess what, lost it on a wet curve..too fast for the conditions!

My son, sacker90, wasn't ready a couple of years ago when he 'borrowed' my GSL-SE to go joyriding. He lost it on a curve and went straight down a 75 foot embankment, just missing a tree. Moderate body damage to the widebody fiberglass, but he was OK. He LEARNED from that..I've watched his *** pucker and right foot mash the floor on the pasengerside of a car while I hit a curve rather spirited. He has just turned 18, and has had only the above accident. And, he drives an FD. He is now an above average driver. He'd better not be too confident, however. Learn from the mistakes of others, son.
Some people take longer to learn than others, it's true, and next time David might not be so lucky. Regardless of what car he ends up with, I just want him to remember what happened and to know that he could have been killed. That would have been a tragedy for all who know him.

He's really a super individual, so David, the tinman says BE CAREFUL!!

You wreck another FD and live..you'll have people lining up to kick your ****!

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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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clint you know i used to consider you a friend to you started talking **** saying i was stupid for wrecking my car and even before i got it you said i hope you wreck and die and the only said thing would be is a wasted fd. cant believ i even called you a friend and you said again that you hope i wreck this other one im gonna get. your not a friend more like a genuine *******
david, i havent been talking ****. unless you consider my advice of saying your not ready talking ****. but ive just been trying to help you out. you need to get off your high horse and accept facts. i stayed out of it until you wrecked it but i wasnt going to a 2nd time around. i never said i hoped you wrecked it so dont put that little 3 year old bullshit on me. i expected it but what was i supposed to expect?? david you honestly arent ready for a turbo rotary. that will be the last time i say that to you. but i think the majority of this thread has proved my point...
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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These threads crack me up. Who cares? These cars are cheap and easy to find. Learn from your mistake and you came out ahead.
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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These threads crack me up. Who cares? These cars are cheap and easy to find. Learn from your mistake and you came out ahead.
Really? Not around here..I never see them. Many thanks to David Jerome
for making them avaliable!
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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I bet everyone on this forum, with me as the exception LOL, has had their FD out of control at least once.
Not me

Not even with all of the autocrossing I have done. Most of the young drivers here think they know so much more than they really do.

"I'm 19 and had the car for 2 years". What a ******* joke. You will get it when you are older
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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Many thanks to David Jerome
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...and to me for keeping them driveable
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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Here's a good mod/check list for FD newbies (no connection to FDNewbie ) that will be sure to help in those learning situations...

1. new high performance tires inflated to correct pressure
2. alignment
3. new brake pads and rotors if necessary, and a good bleed of the system
4. pull off a vacuum line for atleast the first week you have it so the boost is limited
5. go to an empty parking lot and have fun

I did all of the following except removing the vacuum line and never had control issues during the critical first few months of ownership.
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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By the way to those who watch the "WRX" video, it is actually a civic not a WRX. Just FYI
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
These threads crack me up. Who cares? These cars are cheap and easy to find. Learn from your mistake and you came out ahead.
realy these cars can be bought fir next to nothing. I keep wondering why every one here thinks they are part of an elite croud. Its pathetic how people ask techincal questions that take days to be answered, but a thread like this grows to six pages in no time. Glad no one was hurt.
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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realy these cars can be bought fir next to nothing.
I guess your definition of next to nothing depends on your financial status in life. most people would consider "next to nothing" to be under $4000, yet I've not seen a halfway running FD sold for less than $7500 in a long time. They sell in blown/burned/wrecked/rough condition for a lot more than "next to nothing" most of the time, not to mention when you find a clean one like this car.

I wouldn't overstate the value and availability of these cars, but I damn sure wouldn't understate it either.
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
These threads crack me up. Who cares? These cars are cheap and easy to find. Learn from your mistake and you came out ahead.

Stop!! Stop!! Stop!! That is logical thinking and we dont do that on the internet. LOL
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
...and to me for keeping them driveable
You, know, I actually thought of that but by the time I did..too late to edit!
Think how busy you'd be if you offered body work to the rest of the 'Resurrection'!
Also, because you're so busy I actually had to do MY OWN BRAKES! Hope you're happy..I get to try them out tomorrow., You and your 'tough love'......

Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
I guess your definition of next to nothing depends on your financial status in life. most people would consider "next to nothing" to be under $4000, yet I've not seen a halfway running FD sold for less than $7500 in a long time. They sell in blown/burned/wrecked/rough condition for a lot more than "next to nothing" most of the time, not to mention when you find a clean one like this car.

I wouldn't overstate the value and availability of these cars, but I damn sure wouldn't understate it either.
yea what he said
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
most people would consider "next to nothing" to be under $4000.
Nope, next to nothing is < $1000
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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Get TurboJeff on it to resurrect this 7 again . It should be back on the roads
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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First of all everyone needs to direct their attention to the people with questions regarding their cars where energy may be more useful, it is ridiculous people waiting to get in line to flame this kid, its over.

And drivenfast, whats with the chip on ur shoulder man? That is the kind of attitude that is gonna get another 7 around a telephone post.
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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First of all everyone needs to direct their attention to the people with questions regarding their cars where energy may be more useful, it is ridiculous people waiting to get in line to flame this kid, its over.

And drivenfast, whats with the chip on ur shoulder man? That is the kind of attitude that is gonna get another 7 around a telephone post.
i dont have a chip on my shoulder i was just pissed last night cause the majaroty of the people on here dont even care if i wrecked all they car about was the car they act liked i killed a god or something. but trust me on this the next one i get an empty parking lot will be my best friend
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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david, this is not a johnson & johnson medical plan forum, its an RX7 forum. people are gonna care about the car. they care about you to the extent that they dont want to see you wreck again and hurt yourself and destroy another 3rd gen. this is their concern. quit feeling sorry for yourself...
Old Mar 20, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Here is my advice from that thread:


Never underestimate how quickly the FD gets to 100+ mph, before you are jumping on the brakes hard to hit that 90 degree corner. I spun 180 degrees just of the road and only managed to dent my muffler real bad. Good tires would have saved me there. The car came with some brand new Hankook Ventus...I burned the rears in 3k miles and have switched to falken GRB FK-451. Toyo T-1S is a great tire also...excellent wear, dry grip AND wet grip.

Knowing when the car is going to get a boost surge in the corner always helps a ton. I usually loosen up on the wheel a little and let the car correct (countersteer) itself at it's own rate. Do not lift off the throttle during this...the FD can come back inline under throttle very well, and quick I might add. Race car engineering for you! The 50/50 weight balance makes the car easy to steer under Wide Open Throttle, and to keep it under control. Just apply your throttle cautiously.

I usually take all my rear drive cars to an open warehouse parking lot late at night and get a feel for the car by trying to get it out of control a little and bring it back....or better, go to auto-x events...MAJOR FUN! and only $25-$35 dollars. there is bound to be one within 2hrs driving. just check the web, SCCA or local city auto cross search it.


My friend who owned a 93' TKT basic (w/ a few add-ons) did not have much luck at all with his FD. Bought it and spun through an intersection lefty 3 hours later....mildy wedging the RF corner under a guardrail.

Then, spun it up onto a sidewalk in 3rd gear, while pissed at his girlfriend.

Then, AST blew on the highway and he sped to the exit ramp. $3800 later he was on the road again.

Out ran the cops (4am) at 160+ and exited the highway, slide 180 degrees over the median while trying to make the right hand corner onto the exit road, but made it home LOL.

Spun off the road, down the hill, over the crest, got air born, through the link fence, over the pool cover and hanging over the edge of the pool on the opposite side. i think a little good luck was thrown in along the way =) hehe


He must have dodged the cops about 4 times while owning that car. Whoo...the good ol late teen days. haha




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You are limited to TRACTION! Wether it be: 100% braking traction 100% acceleration traction or 100% cornering traction.

You should brake before the turn and accelerate after the turn (while car is straight). Get a feel of a car before you run the **** out of it! You know when your taking a clover leaf exit and all four of your tires are sqealing?? losing traction can be your worst nightmare!




Actually, trail braking into the corner and starting to accelerate through the apex and out is the way pro racecar drivers turn fast laps (tire wear may be accelerated though). It should only be done on racetracks, and by someone who has alot of experiance at the limits of adhesion. You want 100% of your slip angle factor all the way through a corner to be the fastest. Your slip angle is the angle at witch you can turn your front wheels before they slide relating directly to directional force...whether it be braking/turning, turning alone, or turning/accelerating. Trail braking comes into play during corner entry to keep the front tires loaded and the rear light. This enables a fast corner entry and easy pivot direction (light rearend)...then you can accelerate and load the rear tires sooner. Trail braking is a "High Skill" level compared to regular driving technique. It is usually one of the last steps in performance driving.

You know you got the full feel of driving when you can brake, downshift, rev-match, and trail brake into the corner. The rest is easy. Corner entry is an art.....





Newbies, take the car to a big empty parking lot a 2am and have at it in first and second gear. It is a little hard on the tranny and tires, but you will be better at contorlling the car much better. Then look for the first next auto-x event and do it! THIS CAR IS A FACTORY BUILT RACECAR, and should be used so.

The only teenage racecar drivers I know of, used to race go-karts for years before they climbed into their first racecar.



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