non seq stock twins at 16psi?
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You do not need a re tune for a map sensor. This is a very interesting post, but really to me I rather buy everything I can to make sure the car is safe to run at the desired level. Also another reason the forum is here is to exchange information to help one another and further our knowledge with this type of vehicle. I dont know where I would be without this forum.
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Getting a refund and re-ordering parts from rx7.com since I have had good experiences with them. I was not aware that Banzai sold these as well. I take it the harness/MAP sensor are the same from both Banzai and rx7.com?? I want to keep everything together since I am now cutting it so close time wise..
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Having the 3Bar can't HURT, let's put it that way. But I think we can all agree on one thing:
If you aren't properly tuned for the respective boost - you're done.
If you aren't properly tuned for the respective boost - you're done.
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I will need (and have time) to make one more purchase before packing everything up and driving the 3-4 hours for the install on the 16th. I had initially ordered most of my parts from rx7store.net back in November but still haven't recieved all the products I paid for (DO NOT ORDER FROM THEM!!) and am less than satisfied...
Getting a refund and re-ordering parts from rx7.com since I have had good experiences with them. I was not aware that Banzai sold these as well. I take it the harness/MAP sensor are the same from both Banzai and rx7.com?? I want to keep everything together since I am now cutting it so close time wise..
Getting a refund and re-ordering parts from rx7.com since I have had good experiences with them. I was not aware that Banzai sold these as well. I take it the harness/MAP sensor are the same from both Banzai and rx7.com?? I want to keep everything together since I am now cutting it so close time wise..
Ours is a plug and play harness, the other is just a connector shell and 3 pins that you have to crimp together and assemble yourself. http://www.banzai-racing.com/product...er_harness.htm
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As far as "how much better could his tune have been", I haven't seen anyone produce numbers over his with the same configuration 3-bar or not. So I'd say his tune was pretty darn good. If you think you can do better, build a car similar to his setup back then and show us the numbers. I'd be all for taking a look at the data.
You posted a link to a 4 yo thread that made a claim and had a link to a vid that does not exist.. this is pretty weak ground you are standing on. Where is the data?
Considering there are no specs for the car besides stock port/stock twins @ 17 psi, I am to assume that this is a completely stock car with nitto drags and a boost controller? =400HP+ Seems everyone has been wasting a lot of money on all the other bolt ons
People used to go through a lot more engines trying to sqeeze every ounce of HP out of their cars without the proper mods as well.
Thank goodness we have advanced beyond the FCD, S-AFC and additional injector controller so we can now produce reliable hp with the correct modifications and control systems.
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https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/400rwh-w-engine-stock-turbos-non-seq-152271/
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Back in the day, I believe people took a more scientific approach to modding the car. I would assume part of the reason was the available of options also played a roll in it, but I see far too many people just go out and buy crap for their cars today and blow them up tomorrow. Stuff like that was not happening in the past. They were doing a LOT more with a LOT less, and doing it better.
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They were doing a LOT more with a LOT less, and doing it better.
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the plain fact is the 2 bar sensor is rated/calibrated/designed for 1 bar gauge pressure, PERIOD, END OF STORY...now, can you push it a bit beyond that and get away with it? most of the time, sure, but for the cost involved, you're stupid to do so
now, let's take a poll of the best FD tuners on this forum and ask them if they use and recommend the stock sensor at 17 psi....anyone care to guess what the results of that poll would be? you lose
let's face it, mahjik, your car has been sitting in your garage for about three years now and you're obviously short on cash, but recommending other people cut corners because you choose to do it, or because your buddies from five years ago got away with it doesn't hold any water
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im suprised this got into such a debate as it did!
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you could likely jack up a 3 ton truck with a 2 ton jack and stick your head under it, too, the question is, why would you?
the plain fact is the 2 bar sensor is rated/calibrated/designed for 1 bar gauge pressure, PERIOD, END OF STORY...now, can you push it a bit beyond that and get away with it? most of the time, sure, but for the cost involved, you're stupid to do so
the plain fact is the 2 bar sensor is rated/calibrated/designed for 1 bar gauge pressure, PERIOD, END OF STORY...now, can you push it a bit beyond that and get away with it? most of the time, sure, but for the cost involved, you're stupid to do so
let's face it, mahjik, your car has been sitting in your garage for about three years now and you're obviously short on cash, but recommending other people cut corners because you choose to do it, or because your buddies from five years ag got away with it doesn't hold any water
As far as my car, yes it's been in the garage for a while. While I have issues, money is not one of them.
Here the project I had done last year in my backyard (a more completed picture attached):
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/Ho...d/DSCF1286.jpg
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/Ho...d/DSCF1290.jpg
http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/Ho...d/DSCF1292.jpg
Heck, I was looking to buy an Elise as a 4th car. Money is not a problem that I have. I don't have David Haynes or Jimlab money, but I'm not starving. To be honest, there is nothing I need to "buy" to make my car drivable. I just need to finish it. However, there are a few reasons why it's where it's at:
1. I like to do everything myself. I'm definitely not the fastest and there are plenty of people around who are much handier than I am with a wrench. I have a friend who owns a garage. He has offered to come take the car and the rest of the stuff, then bring it back to me in a week or so completed; for free.
2. Time. I have a real job thank you. I also reevaluated my priorities a few years ago and I make sure to put my family first. If the choice between working on my car or playing with my daughter, my daughter comes first right now.
3. Medical/health issues.
Probably the main reason is that I just don't care. My M3 is my daily driver and it also does just fine on the track. If I had something like an older Accord or something as my daily driver, I would probably have more of a hunger to get the RX7 going, but that's not the case.
So, now let me put my eWallet back up. Mark, you never change. If you can't be right in a discussion, you use falsified personal attacks to disguise that fact. All it does is demonstrate how truly immature you are rather than assist you in getting your point across.
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I think CW has already dont that. Everything I've ever seen from him says the stock map sensor reads at 17.5psi right below 5volts.
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please do, I wasn't impressed
true, I'm just right, every time
you've already been shown the door here, mahjik, now you're acting like a kid and posting pics of your house LOL
you started in the the personal swipe, so your rebuke falls on deaf ears
all this coming from the guy who feels the need to post pics of his house a la Jim Labreck to show how much money he has? LOL
at the end of the day, you're still wrong: running the stock sensor at 17 psi is foolish
Mark, you never change.
If you can't be right in a discussion
you use falsified personal attacks to disguise that fact
All it does is demonstrate how truly immature you are to assist you in getting your point across.
at the end of the day, you're still wrong: running the stock sensor at 17 psi is foolish
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I've only read the past few posts and here is my thoughts. You should NOT run more then 14.5psi on the stock map sensor. There is ALOT more ways to calculate correct PSI levels too, Maybe that 17psi is really only 15 according to elevation levels. I don't know. BUT,... a funny thing happened the other day which can relate to this thread. I was driving crazy, like usual around blackwood ( smoking every big headed mustang) and the vac line came off and I boosted up to 22psi. Luckily for my added safety my 3 bar map sensor is made for that no problem, and my trusty 13b had no problems.
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