3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

I'm a newb... FD smoking at startup?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-02, 09:48 PM
  #1  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm a newb... FD smoking at startup?

Is it standard for FDs to smoke on cold starts? (it's smoke right? not steaming condensation like most cars at cold start) If anyone can answer this for me I would greatly appericate it.
Old 12-03-02, 10:13 PM
  #2  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
Check the smell of the smoke.

Most FD's will put out a little smoke at startup if they have been sitting for a little while or it's cold out.

However, the smoke shouldn't last long (mine will puff some smoke for about 10 secs if it's been sitting for a few days or longer). If you are seeing smoke coming out of the car for 5 or more minutes (and it is smoke), then depending on the smell of the smoke (what is burning) it could be one of a few problems.
Old 12-03-02, 10:40 PM
  #3  
Full Member

 
Mercury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How long does it last, and what color is it?
Old 12-03-02, 11:42 PM
  #4  
don't race, don't need to

 
spurvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Tri-Cities, WA
Posts: 1,292
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
White (greyish, really) fuel smelling "smoke" is just what you though... stem from condensation boil off. More at night and during the cold months.

White (snowy white) pillowy smoke that smells sweet (REAL sweet, like maple syrup-ish) is a bad sign. This is indicative of coolant seeping into the combustion chamber. The infamous "O-Ring" problem. Engine rebuild time.

Blue smoke is likely oil burn. A little at startup is typical for ageing rotary engines.

Black smoke is LOTS of oil burning or way rich fuel to air mixture.

Now what's yours look like?
Old 12-04-02, 12:17 AM
  #5  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thats just it... Im not sure. The car is out of state its a 95 R2 50k miles stock engine. I am considering buying the car sight unseen. (maybe kinda stupid but if he can supply documentation. it also has some reliability mods. Check the forsale secion its the black R2.
Old 12-04-02, 04:45 AM
  #6  
Senior Member

 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Washington
Posts: 614
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yea, defintely make sure its not sweet smelling smoke
Old 12-04-02, 11:16 AM
  #7  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally posted by MINES13
Thats just it... Im not sure. The car is out of state its a 95 R2 50k miles stock engine. I am considering buying the car sight unseen. (maybe kinda stupid but if he can supply documentation. it also has some reliability mods. Check the forsale secion its the black R2.
Well, I'm sure you are really looking forward to purchasing and driving and FD. However, I would exercise caution buying any FD.

IMO, don't hand out any money until you can have a compression test, actually view a cold start of the car, and take it for a drive.

Good luck.
Old 12-04-02, 11:46 AM
  #8  
#1 F0RUM TROLL

 
blackscorpio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by spurvo
.......
White (snowy white) pillowy smoke that smells sweet (REAL sweet, like maple syrup-ish) is a bad sign. This is indicative of coolant seeping into the combustion chamber. The infamous "O-Ring" problem. Engine rebuild time.
This is not true you do not have to rebuild engine to fix the o ring. Check this site out if it is white smoke: http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/o-ring_fix.html
Old 12-04-02, 01:00 PM
  #9  
don't race, don't need to

 
spurvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Tri-Cities, WA
Posts: 1,292
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
OK
Old 12-04-02, 02:57 PM
  #10  
Eats, Sleeps, Dreams Rotary

 
apneablue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: North Coast
Posts: 3,045
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Ask the seller if he's willing to take it to a REX shop to have the compression done at your expense (what I did) and then if the numbers are good bring your boost gauge along for the ride...pretty easy to hook up a manual boost gauge...just run a long vacuum hose from the nipple on the upper intake manifold and see that you are getting stock boost (10-8-10)...if not then, aahhhh, I dunno...could be bad, or could be an easy fix...either way, good luck...RX-7s are rare these days, 95s even rarer
Old 12-04-02, 03:20 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

 
LAracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Los Alamos, NM
Posts: 592
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Take a trip. Drive the car. Take it to a shop if there's one around and have it tested. Most importantly, be prepared to leave without the car.

Also, if you're buying from someone here, search all their posts. You'll get a good idea of the car's history. I turned several down based on this.

This is alot of trouble to go to, but isn't your (future) FD worth it?
Old 12-08-02, 02:22 AM
  #12  
i love boost

 
ROTORHP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: St. Albert Alberta
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
LAracer is right. I left the first car I looked at. Cost me 500 buks and travelled 2500km in one day just to find out what I was told about the car was nothing like it really was. In person spells it all out. All good now though. The guy that owned that car actually told me about the car I purchased. I'm a happy camper now. Just have to wait for spring!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mulcryant
General Rotary Tech Support
5
10-04-15 12:18 AM
ls1swap
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
12
10-01-15 07:58 PM
rx7inoregon
Old School and Other Rotary
5
10-01-15 12:44 PM
frosty1993
General Rotary Tech Support
3
09-30-15 01:27 PM
dexter snoek
New Member RX-7 Technical
4
09-29-15 09:18 AM



Quick Reply: I'm a newb... FD smoking at startup?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:57 PM.