Forget LS1 and 13B Why not Renesis?
12-29-03, 12:43 PM
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Yeah 15 years ago the RX-8 would have been a stunning sports car.
Too bad now it's the slowest uglyest thing on the block.
Too bad now it's the slowest uglyest thing on the block.
Originally posted by ZeroBanger
The renisis is an awesome engine. Drove the rx8 over the weekend, I love it. Simply amazing.
The renisis is an awesome engine. Drove the rx8 over the weekend, I love it. Simply amazing.
12-29-03, 12:45 PM
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I guess in a race car you'd only care about torque up high. But in a street car thats driven on actual roads... a nice broad torque band with quick throttle response is whats best.
Turbos on the FD don't make sense. The steering and brakes are crisp and quick and the throttle response is dopey dull and half of the rev range is useless. Doesn't make any sense.
Turbos on the FD don't make sense. The steering and brakes are crisp and quick and the throttle response is dopey dull and half of the rev range is useless. Doesn't make any sense.
Originally posted by SPOautos
HUH?!?! Tq counts up high not down low. You want to make some hp you need high rpm tq.
400lbs of tq @ 2000rpms = 152hp (not fast)
400lbs of tq @ 6000rpms = 457hp (much faster)
If your goal is to be fast then you want your hp up high....where it counts. Course maybe your pulling trailers, in that case yes, you need good low rpm tq
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HUH?!?! Tq counts up high not down low. You want to make some hp you need high rpm tq.
400lbs of tq @ 2000rpms = 152hp (not fast)
400lbs of tq @ 6000rpms = 457hp (much faster)
If your goal is to be fast then you want your hp up high....where it counts. Course maybe your pulling trailers, in that case yes, you need good low rpm tq
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12-29-03, 12:48 PM
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You're dreaming. One ping and these rotaries need a rebuilt and when you push em much past stock power levels you're at risk any time you step into the throttle.
I agree these are sports cars thats why throttle response and broad torque curves matter. You want instant predictable power everywhere in the rev range and linear throttle response.
Not this if I'm below 3500rpm I'm screwed, lumpy 10% now 100% in a second turbo bullshit.
Plus it's nice to know it's not going to break.
I agree these are sports cars thats why throttle response and broad torque curves matter. You want instant predictable power everywhere in the rev range and linear throttle response.
Not this if I'm below 3500rpm I'm screwed, lumpy 10% now 100% in a second turbo bullshit.
Plus it's nice to know it's not going to break.
Originally posted by $150FC
if you do it right, detonation is not a problem.
furthermore who cares about 500tq at 2000 rpm? from a standing start you're going to launch your car above that anyway, and from any sort of roll you're going to be running at least 4000rpm anyway.
we don't buy, build, modify, drive, and race these cars because they're good around-town cruisers under light throttle, we buy 'sports cars' for spirited driving (at the very least) which is going to require some more throttle.
if i wanted a docile car to drive around town in, i'd buy another volvo.
if you do it right, detonation is not a problem.
furthermore who cares about 500tq at 2000 rpm? from a standing start you're going to launch your car above that anyway, and from any sort of roll you're going to be running at least 4000rpm anyway.
we don't buy, build, modify, drive, and race these cars because they're good around-town cruisers under light throttle, we buy 'sports cars' for spirited driving (at the very least) which is going to require some more throttle.
if i wanted a docile car to drive around town in, i'd buy another volvo.
12-29-03, 12:54 PM
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Dreaming? You're stating that one ping will cause a failure on rotaries. While it is true many engine failures are due to detonation a single individual ping will not always cause dire effects. I've detonated once and nothing came of it.
There are MANY FD's way past stock power levels that are not at risk every time they step into the throttle. What true knowledge do you base this information on? Looking at fact that you have barely turned 17 leads me to believe you have been surfing the net a little too much and are preaching on information you have no first hand experience of.
There are MANY FD's way past stock power levels that are not at risk every time they step into the throttle. What true knowledge do you base this information on? Looking at fact that you have barely turned 17 leads me to believe you have been surfing the net a little too much and are preaching on information you have no first hand experience of.
Originally posted by tbielobockie
You're dreaming. One ping and these rotaries need a rebuilt and when you push em much past stock power levels you're at risk any time you step into the throttle.
I agree these are sports cars thats why throttle response and broad torque curves matter. You want instant predictable power everywhere in the rev range and linear throttle response.
Not this if I'm below 3500rpm I'm screwed, lumpy 10% now 100% in a second turbo bullshit.
Plus it's nice to know it's not going to break.
You're dreaming. One ping and these rotaries need a rebuilt and when you push em much past stock power levels you're at risk any time you step into the throttle.
I agree these are sports cars thats why throttle response and broad torque curves matter. You want instant predictable power everywhere in the rev range and linear throttle response.
Not this if I'm below 3500rpm I'm screwed, lumpy 10% now 100% in a second turbo bullshit.
Plus it's nice to know it's not going to break.
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Originally posted by tbielobockie
You're dreaming. One ping and these rotaries need a rebuilt and when you push em much past stock power levels you're at risk any time you step into the throttle.
I guess in a race car you'd only care about torque up high. But in a street car thats driven on actual roads... a nice broad torque band with quick throttle response is whats best.
Turbos on the FD don't make sense. The steering and brakes are crisp and quick and the throttle response is dopey dull and half of the rev range is useless. Doesn't make any sense.
You're dreaming. One ping and these rotaries need a rebuilt and when you push em much past stock power levels you're at risk any time you step into the throttle.
I guess in a race car you'd only care about torque up high. But in a street car thats driven on actual roads... a nice broad torque band with quick throttle response is whats best.
Turbos on the FD don't make sense. The steering and brakes are crisp and quick and the throttle response is dopey dull and half of the rev range is useless. Doesn't make any sense.
12-29-03, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by tbielobockie
You're dreaming. One ping and these rotaries need a rebuilt and when you push em much past stock power levels you're at risk any time you step into the throttle.
I agree these are sports cars thats why throttle response and broad torque curves matter. You want instant predictable power everywhere in the rev range and linear throttle response.
Not this if I'm below 3500rpm I'm screwed, lumpy 10% now 100% in a second turbo bullshit.
Plus it's nice to know it's not going to break.
You're dreaming. One ping and these rotaries need a rebuilt and when you push em much past stock power levels you're at risk any time you step into the throttle.
I agree these are sports cars thats why throttle response and broad torque curves matter. You want instant predictable power everywhere in the rev range and linear throttle response.
Not this if I'm below 3500rpm I'm screwed, lumpy 10% now 100% in a second turbo bullshit.
Plus it's nice to know it's not going to break.
ok we have heard all these arguments before...lets just let this end. its a tireless argument.
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