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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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FC oil cooler in FD?

So I have been concidering different options for an oilcooler upgrade. It has been suggested to me that I can use an oil cooler from a second gen and that would be an improvement over my single fd cooler..... Has anyone ever tried this and is it true?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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T&R racing in queens have done it with no problems. I don't know if cools better than the dual R1 but yess it can and has been done.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Pick up some R1 oil coolers and call it a day. We may have a spare set at our shop in central NJ, now that I think about it.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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the duals i would say are probably better at cooling but not flow, but flow isn't an issue still with the R1 coolers as the pressure is already regulated down and the coolers are always statically somewhat full with the car off. the FC cooler does have the disadvantage of needing to be in front of the radiator which transfers heat to 1/3 of your radiator core(disadvantage to the radiator that is), the only way it may be a better alternative is if you do a custom v-mount where everything gets it's own fresh air, at which point there is no oil lines hanging about waiting to get ripped or cut(the FD oil lines are also superior to the FC oil cooler style lines as well, which have a tendency to explode unless you upgrade to SS lines or use high pressure hydraulic replacements).
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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the FC oil cooler is huge, probably bigger than the R1 coolers combined. But I'm not sure how the fitment would be, and you would have to build custom lines for it. R1 coolers would definitely be the easiest solution.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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i'm sure it is, and is it really necessary? oil does get hot but the FC cooler is a bit of overkill unless you plan on pushing 500+ down on the twisties for an hour+ at a time.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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The advantage of the FC oil cooler is that it's huge. This disadvantage of the FC oil cooler is that it's huge.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Why go backwards? A 2nd gen cooler is slightly larger than a single fd cooler but why not just go with duals?
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
Why go backwards? A 2nd gen cooler is slightly larger than a single fd cooler but why not just go with duals?

Slightly larger? The sizes between the two are not even close. Fc cooler is far larger in capacity and thickness. You have to get really creative to make the Fc cooler work in the Fd chassis.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Slightly larger? The sizes between the two are not even close. Fc cooler is far larger in capacity and thickness. You have to get really creative to make the Fc cooler work in the Fd chassis.
Regardless, it all comes down to airflow management. The FD front bumper is designed for the dual (smaller) R1 coolers..... not for the huge FC unit, which would turn into one big heat sink without adequate airflow.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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It's a significantly better cooler hands down, it's just that the packaging problems make it probably not worth it for most FD applications. The cooler itself is cheap though. It's the same cooler on all models, turbo and nonturbo, so you can get one for like $50 or something. But then you have to make lines which will end up being probably $200 with all the expensive fittings and hose, and you have to figure out how you are going to mount it.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 03:55 AM
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Thanks for the replys, I guess I'm going to have to see how it fits in before I make my decision. Does anyone know the dimensions of the second gen cooler so I can get an idea before purchasing. If it doesn't work out can I just purchase one r1 cooler or would I have to pick them up as a set? I currently have just a stock single. I'm looking at 450ish HP will it be enough am I just being paranoid and should be fine with stock if I'm not racing?
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 04:50 AM
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Dual R1s are cheap as hell man. I know. A month or so after I bought mine they dropped in price alot. Its great that you are trying to do something rare but in this case, it just isn't worth it at all. In the end, you will spend money adapting the FC oil cooler to fit and be reliable and it will take alot more work for what may or may not be better performance overall. The money you may save won't be worth the effort. Just buy a used set of R1s. Some people used to use 2 single oil coolers but IMO unless you really enjoy doing that stuff, it isn't isn't worth the extra time involved because of how cheap the R1s are now.

You would pick up a set of the R1 oil coolers (DS and PS). You would sell the single oil cooler to someone who wants to go the 2 single oil cooler route, haaaaa.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NYRX7
Thanks for the replys, I guess I'm going to have to see how it fits in before I make my decision. Does anyone know the dimensions of the second gen cooler so I can get an idea before purchasing.
a quick search in the 2nd gen section reveals:

Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers
Stock Oil cooler dimensions
Length (including endtanks) 22.5"
Length (core only) 19.75"
Height 4.5"
Width 2"
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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So I decided to go with the R1 coolers and call it a day.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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I was thinking of putting it between my vmount one day I will finish it up.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Regardless, it all comes down to airflow management. The FD front bumper is designed for the dual (smaller) R1 coolers..... not for the huge FC unit, which would turn into one big heat sink without adequate airflow.

Which is the point of my "creatrive comment" of my post!
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by turboIIrotary
I was thinking of putting it between my vmount one day I will finish it up.

Exactly! It would leave the old cooler ducts to be used for dedicated brake cooling and no restrictions. Like I said.... you gotta get creative.
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