shawnm565

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So how does the car drive when you delete it? I see people do it but I would like a few people's opinions on how it makes the car feel after getting rid of it?

I have driven a Slammed honda with no powersteering and I really liked it, made it feel like a race car.

moosejaw

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you barely notice it while driving but definitely feel th difficulty in paralell parking
the trick is to keep the car constantly moving so you can turn easier
I did the maval conversion

TheAsset

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How do you think the car drives when you delete power steering?

CloudPump

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I've deleted my power steering, I find the difference almost negligable. My friend has also driven my car and his reaction was "I thought you told me you removed the power steering?"

-Geoff

Mahjik

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You send your rack to Maval and they do a proper conversion to it (rather than just looping a fluid line):

http://www.mavalgear.com/home.html

muibubbles

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i did the maval mod myself following the miata tutorial. pretty easy. i didnt have power steering when i go the car, lines werent even looped just off. i cant remember if i noticed a difference from no ps(lines off) vs no ps (done correctly) but i def love the feel of no ps. at highway speeds i FEEL like i have control and FEEL the car. parallel parking is a PITA but its not that bad you just have to learn how to drive it (slowly creep as you turn the wheel)

One thing i love about this car (well my specifically, no ps/abs) is everything is so manual. without the electronic bullshit. every aspect has such a great feel with awesome feedback!

swilson@assetworks.com

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IMHO - Manual is the only way to go. On the track you can feel the "angle" of the tires and it directly corresponds to the steering wheel position. When I auto crossed I would always over crank the wheel and the power steering would take a little time to catch up. I know that the fast auto cross guys all keep the power steering bu it slowed me down. Probably important to note that I am 6' 2" and 230 lbs and I live where you only rarely need to parallel park. I have converted both my third gen and my S5 vert to manual steering. The third gen is a Marval conversion and I put a TII rack in the vert.

Aeka GSR

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I'm not a fan when driving on the street. My first FD I bought had no PS, I put that **** back in within a month, along with the AC.

shawnm565

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I know you did it all your self, but generally how much did it cost in materials? I plan on getting rid of the AC and the powersteering and I wouldnt mind getting rid of the ABS.. Less junk in the engine bay to confuse me LOL, I very rarely have to parallel park.. well iv had the car for almost 3 months now and I havent had to once heh.

HAWAII

If you do autocross/drift, don't you try driving without powersteering, it takes 5 times the effort to go from lock to lock.

If you track, by all means go for it. I have an old 260z on Manual Steering and Yes you can really feel the road much better

moosejaw

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First few days w/o PS, my arms killed me
it fet like i just had a workout

mannykiller

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if I wasn't planning on drifting at all... id do it. But it's just too much fun....therefore. My power steering stays

Project D1

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I wouldn't even call it power steering, more like assist. . .

As for drifting/road racing, all our cars have them removed. . .got used to it after a week. . .

turboIIrotary

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Do it the right way and remove all of the fluid and it is easy.

muibubbles

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Free given you have the right tools.. check out the DIT
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php?x=1
i know its a miata but its the exact same steps.

yeah but now you must be jacked and feel like a hero when people try turning your steering wheel and yell "how do you drive this thing" and just sit back and flex

hahah just kidding. its a little tough on the arms at first but shortly after u'll feel fine.. btw i run a 330mm steering wheel so its a little bit smaller so its slightly harder to turn but i have no problems

shawnm565

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That really does seem simple! I should have all those tools as well.... hmm if I can figure out what I did wrong with the rats next thats my next project!!

muibubbles

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hahah yeah its a basic disassemble, cut the ring thing off, weld the... quill? and youre good to go. just dont cut the boots off. i did. big mistake. it was expensive to replace.............. lmk if you have any questions along the way, ill try helping you out..

Tem120

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so what would happen if i just disconnected the powersteering pump ? or bled the fluid?

revolutionz_fd

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if your going to be driving every day i would keep it if your going to track it then get rid of it

Tem120

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LoL , Just a curiosity , if I unplugged my PS pump , what would happen? or if i just let all teh fluid leave the rack .

say remove it fora track day and re add fluid for the street . ( just a curiosity question ) my PS had a big leak and I drove the car W/o PS for a couple days till I fixed it . and it wasnt anything out of this world . except for hte noise the PS pump made which was quite annoying LOL