Deleting Power steering
So how does the car drive when you delete it? I see people do it but I would like a few people's opinions on how it makes the car feel after getting rid of it?
I have driven a Slammed honda with no powersteering and I really liked it, made it feel like a race car. |
you barely notice it while driving but definitely feel th difficulty in paralell parking
the trick is to keep the car constantly moving so you can turn easier I did the maval conversion |
Originally Posted by moosejaw
(Post 10721825)
you barely notice it while driving but definitely feel th difficulty in paralell parking
the trick is to keep the car constantly moving so you can turn easier I did the maval conversion Maval Conversion? What is that?? Very interested. |
How do you think the car drives when you delete power steering?
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I've deleted my power steering, I find the difference almost negligable. My friend has also driven my car and his reaction was "I thought you told me you removed the power steering?"
-Geoff |
Originally Posted by mr2dude9161
(Post 10721852)
Maval Conversion? What is that??
Very interested. http://www.mavalgear.com/home.html |
i did the maval mod myself following the miata tutorial. pretty easy. i didnt have power steering when i go the car, lines werent even looped just off. i cant remember if i noticed a difference from no ps(lines off) vs no ps (done correctly) but i def love the feel of no ps. at highway speeds i FEEL like i have control and FEEL the car. parallel parking is a PITA but its not that bad you just have to learn how to drive it (slowly creep as you turn the wheel)
One thing i love about this car (well my specifically, no ps/abs) is everything is so manual. without the electronic bullshit. every aspect has such a great feel with awesome feedback! |
IMHO - Manual is the only way to go. On the track you can feel the "angle" of the tires and it directly corresponds to the steering wheel position. When I auto crossed I would always over crank the wheel and the power steering would take a little time to catch up. I know that the fast auto cross guys all keep the power steering bu it slowed me down. Probably important to note that I am 6' 2" and 230 lbs and I live where you only rarely need to parallel park. I have converted both my third gen and my S5 vert to manual steering. The third gen is a Marval conversion and I put a TII rack in the vert.
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I'm not a fan when driving on the street. My first FD I bought had no PS, I put that shit back in within a month, along with the AC.
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Originally Posted by muibubbles
(Post 10721888)
i did the maval mod myself following the miata tutorial. pretty easy. i didnt have power steering when i go the car, lines werent even looped just off. i cant remember if i noticed a difference from no ps(lines off) vs no ps (done correctly) but i def love the feel of no ps. at highway speeds i FEEL like i have control and FEEL the car. parallel parking is a PITA but its not that bad you just have to learn how to drive it (slowly creep as you turn the wheel)
One thing i love about this car (well my specifically, no ps/abs) is everything is so manual. without the electronic bullshit. every aspect has such a great feel with awesome feedback! |
If you do autocross/drift, don't you try driving without powersteering, it takes 5 times the effort to go from lock to lock.
If you track, by all means go for it. I have an old 260z on Manual Steering and Yes you can really feel the road much better |
First few days w/o PS, my arms killed me
it fet like i just had a workout |
if I wasn't planning on drifting at all... id do it. But it's just too much fun....therefore. My power steering stays
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I wouldn't even call it power steering, more like assist. . .
As for drifting/road racing, all our cars have them removed. . .got used to it after a week. . . |
Do it the right way and remove all of the fluid and it is easy.
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Originally Posted by shawnm565
(Post 10722105)
I know you did it all your self, but generally how much did it cost in materials? I plan on getting rid of the AC and the powersteering and I wouldnt mind getting rid of the ABS.. Less junk in the engine bay to confuse me LOL, I very rarely have to parallel park.. well iv had the car for almost 3 months now and I havent had to once heh.
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php?x=1 i know its a miata but its the exact same steps.
Originally Posted by moosejaw
(Post 10722612)
First few days w/o PS, my arms killed me
it fet like i just had a workout hahah just kidding. its a little tough on the arms at first but shortly after u'll feel fine.. btw i run a 330mm steering wheel so its a little bit smaller so its slightly harder to turn but i have no problems:icon_tup: |
Originally Posted by muibubbles
(Post 10722990)
Free given you have the right tools.. check out the DIT
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php?x=1 i know its a miata but its the exact same steps. yeah but now you must be jacked and feel like a hero when people try turning your steering wheel and yell "how do you drive this thing" and just sit back and flex:cool: hahah just kidding. its a little tough on the arms at first but shortly after u'll feel fine.. btw i run a 330mm steering wheel so its a little bit smaller so its slightly harder to turn but i have no problems:icon_tup: |
hahah yeah its a basic disassemble, cut the ring thing off, weld the... quill? and youre good to go. just dont cut the boots off. i did. big mistake. it was expensive to replace.............. lmk if you have any questions along the way, ill try helping you out..
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so what would happen if i just disconnected the powersteering pump ? or bled the fluid?
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if your going to be driving every day i would keep it if your going to track it then get rid of it
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Originally Posted by revolutionz_fd
(Post 11376880)
if your going to be driving every day i would keep it if your going to track it then get rid of it
say remove it fora track day and re add fluid for the street . ( just a curiosity question ) my PS had a big leak and I drove the car W/o PS for a couple days till I fixed it . and it wasnt anything out of this world . except for hte noise the PS pump made which was quite annoying LOL |
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