FDNewbie

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I say give it a shot. I'm not a senior member, but I'd be more than willing to help out however I could. I think Phil would be willing too. Heck, I think a section like that should have some NEON GREEN stickies like "Help! My FD won't start!," "Reliability Mods," "Which oil?" "FD = Reliable daily driver?"and the like. Basically format and outline it for noobs, and that'll take care of a LOT of the questions (or am I too optomistic? haha).

I say lets give it a shot

~Ramy

seven samurai

I love this forum all the vets and moderators are great. And It's good enough as is. I'm not complaining at all but If revamping is being considered and you guys really can't bare how it is. then this is my two cents

A newb section I believe will only work for those who admit it is a newb question. Plus I don't think this "seperatism" is really a good Idea. For one the vets who we respect and whos advice we take with confidence will visit that section less often and who knows, they may miss a very valid question. Then what you have is the blind (newb) leading the blind (newb).

The vets will be left without fresh ideas or just us fearless young newbs who are willing to blow an engine on some hairbrained idea or new product. Us newbs will have an even slower catch up time cause the vets will never go to our post section.

I love sticky and faq's. is it possible to have those updated more? It maybe too much work but if possible can we have the vets state what questions they consider to be the most repetitive question. work up a BASIC OVER ALL FAQ with all abreviated terms typed out. and within that section an UPDATED section involving peices and bits from other post as new items come they are added.

for example newb question "what BOV should i get?"

Blow off valve faq = how blow off valves work, what it looks like(pic), where it is located(stock).
Sub category= aftermarket BOV's ideal location to put it, how to calibrate, Type specific.

When someone post a new BOV "type-RS" chop the useless "oh yeah I was wondering about that too" and move the good stuff into the subcategory. or something referring it to RS specific.

Again, not saying I want this to happen I have no idea what time and effort would be involved to do it. but if it keeps the vets, this forum and the moderators happy I'm dedicated cause they have helped me and I am more than happy to return the favor.

mdpalmer

iTrader: (24)

You ought to make newbs (what ever the hell that's supposed to mean) take an "FD Technical Know-How Exam". Questions would be framed in a "fill-in-the-blank" format.

Ex.
1. How many actuators does the stock sequential turbo system have?
2. Where is your map sensor, and what kind of symptoms does the engine/car exhibit when disconnected?
3. What function does the charge relief valve serve?
4. What is the stock boost level? How is it controlled (stock)?
5. In general, why is it dangerous to exceed stock boost levels?
6. What are typical units for boost and vaccuum?
7. What are the symptoms of a "blown" motor, and what three things one should check if the motor is thought to be blown?
9. What purpose does a wastegate serve (in general) and how is it controlled (stock or otherwise)?
10. Why should one use the higest octane fuel on a turbo car?
11. What is offset, as it relates to automobile wheels?
12. How are tire sizes listed, and what do the figures mean?
13. How is engine oil rated, and what do the figures mean?
14. What does a fuel pressure regulator do?
15. How many injectors does the FD have and how are they described?
16. What does a cat converter do?
17. What does the pre-cat converter do?
18. Where are some places that oil can leak on the 13B-REW?
19. What does an intercooler do?
20. What is good vaccuum on a stock motor at stock idle?
21. What seals are used in a 13B-REW shortblock (ALL of them)?
22. Generally speaking, what do the different colors of exhaust smoke indicate (blue, white, grey/black), as it relates to engine condition?
23. What are some places that fuel can leak on the FD/13B-REW?
24. What is considered good/acceptable compression for a stock 13B-REW?
25. What does the air pump do?
26. What emissions controls/systems are on the USDM FD?
27. What are the components of the FD clutch system, and what must be replaced when changing it?
28. What is a solenoid, and where are the primary ones found in the FD's turbo control system?
29. What is a relay? Where are they on the FD?
30. What is a fuse? Where are they on the FD?
31. What are the two major sections of any turbocharger? What do they do (respectively)?
32. Where are the jacking points on the FD?
33. What are the (stock) FD's EPA fuel consumption figures? How does this compare to a Honda Civic Hybrid or Toyota Prius? How does it compare to Dodge Viper or Ferrari F430
34. What major parts comprise the FD's rear (or front) suspension?
35. What is toe/camber/caster and how does one adjust it on the FD?
36. What are accpetable operating temps for a stock 13B-REW?
37. What is the current price of a reman engine?
38. Who is Ray Crowe, and why do we love him
39. What is the difference between sequential and "non-sequential" stock turbo operation?
40. What effects manifest themselves if exhaust restrictions are removed? What are the exhaust restrictions on the FD?
41.
could go on and on... The moderators would have to grade/score these exams Passing level is 70% Kinda arbitrary (and a lot of work for both moderator and examinee), but maybe it would weed out some people, including me.

The thing I don't understand, is how do you determine if someone is a newb or not, unless you can gauge what they know about car operation/the FD in general? For example, I consider myself a noob to not only the FD, but automobile (technology) in general. If you asked me to change my clutch, I would probably run to mama (or I guess to Rynberg/MaxCooper/etc.). Some of the "newbs" that I have seen have a lot more mechanical experience than I do (i.e. they have another performance car, and know how to work on it), but still get banged on here for asking "dumb" questions about the FD (have to dig up the threads/usernames, but take my word for it).

If the older guys are annoyed by idiots like me, all they have to do is ignore us. You can search too. Maybe your search results are contaminated by useless/crappy/redundant posts thanks to the newbs, but this forum will die if we didn't continue to populate it and support its livelihood. That means getting you old timers off your ***** and answering questions, that means the newbs perpetuating the "FD economy" (buying and selling FD related products, both from commercial and private vendors)... etc.

Just relax and have a beer!!! Love your FD

EDIT: I think that half of my current post count is either thread bumps (in the for sale section) or useless rambling/commenting/etc. Just another reason to avoid associating post count with knowledge/expertise/newbness.

HDP

iTrader: (2)

In order for this to work, everyone (including the senior peeps) would have to have modesty and there's not a lot of that on here. Who's going to actually step up and say "I'm a newbie and I will post in this section specifically made for me to let everyone else know I know nothing..." Fat chance.


EDIT: besides, when would you come from under the lable of "newbie" 10 posts, 2 months, 100 posts, 3 months, 6 months,... and who's to say after 1 year and 1000 posts your skill and knowledge would still have you labled as a newbie? And what about the people who have been around 5 years with less than 100 posts?

RaPtOr-T

I hate seeing stuff like this, but let me tell you what I hate even more...I hate the fact that I have fear posting a dumb question. I hate see **** like REPOST SEAPORT SEARCH NOOB. For example, I've been debating asking the question about using a stock PFC map with a stock car, I've searched, looked through the FAQs, everything I can, but I havent found anything. Do you guys have any idea how much **** comes up when you search STOCK POWER FC? Think about that for a moment, and if you dont believe me on how much unrelated crap comes up about 2nd gens do it yourself. Now posts like this only make things worse, because now everybody has listed just about everything a noob can ask, so whats going to come up the top of the search now? Yeah great...I dont mean to be an ******* but this post just seems like one of those "Im to good for this noobshit" posts, this is a HUGE public forum for RX7s, and the RX7 is prone to a HUGE array of problems, on top of thats its free. If there is a real important problem and nobody responds to it, thats what we have BUMPS for.

HDP

iTrader: (2)

You made some good points... now that I have given this some thought, I now wonder why is this even in the 3rd gen section? Shouldn't this be in the lounge with the rest of the ranting? It's not per se, specific to the 3rd gens.

F0RSAKEN

Problem is the car is cheap to buy now, so anyone and their 5 year old kid can buy one and have a reason to post here, and the kids these days are lazy, so they'd rather post a new thread for every question they have than search

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

I don't think that's the case. I wouldn't call it a noob section. Just a beginner/basics question. And believe me, the majority of questions would fall under this section. And again, if the forum is setup to outline the basic info, it should help greatly. Remember, the prob isn't that ppl don't want to answer questions...is that no one wants to see the SAME question 50 times over when it's readily available. So if it's made available in that section CLEARLY, that'll help.

And a lot of veterans chime in when *necessary* in noob threads. If they see a bunch of blind noobs leading others blindly, they come and correct what's incorrect. I would expect they would continue to do the same as necessary. Nothing's changing save for organization and where questions are placed.

Mike, that's one hell of a list. I freakin love it. Except I don't think a test is necessary ie anything mandatory. I think that would be one hell of a sticky... to help bring ppl up to speed. Heck, there are questions on there I can't even answer haha. But if ppl were to read it, and learn the answers, that would answer like 90% of the basic questions!!

Like I said...you don't label it as a noob thread. Don't intimidate ppl. And moderating the forum well, ensuring the beginner questions remain in that section will help move things along.

Again, I'm moving away from the noob idea. And this isn't a restrictive thing. ANYONE can post in both sections, but the simple/basic questions would remain in the basics/beginner section, and the more involved and/or advanced threads would be left in the other section. No labels necessary.

Oh and HDP, there's obviously a problem that's bothering a bunch of members on this forum. Rotorbrain recently posted a thread complaining about the same thing (https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/how-goes-464895/) and there was a good bit of discussion there too. So sorry if this comes out harshly, but seriously, maybe we should stop shooting down every idea because we THINK it may not work for whatever reason. We have yet to try doing ANYTHING. How about we TRY FIRST? If it fails, ok, we can go right back to how it used to be. But at least we gave it a shot... I'm kirkin at how so many ppl love to shoot down ideas w/o giving 'em a shot, yet cannot offer up a better solution...

You're not going to like this, but you just need to learn HOW to search (better) If you're getting too many hits, and they're not specific enough, try narrowing your search, using more descriptive and specific terms. In about 3 seconds, I found the answer to your question by searching for "PFC base map" (can't use "stock" b/c it's too common a word). Here's the search results: https://www.rx7club.com/search.php?searchid=1701814 Lo and behold, your answer was in the 5th result (https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...t=pfc+base+map) The more you search, the better you'll get at the search feature. Heck, I'm nowhere near Mahjik, but I can usually find a specific thread by searching not only using key words in the thread, but sometimes even the thread title, and filtering by user b/c I remember who posted the response I'm looking for. Practice makes perfect

HDP

iTrader: (2)

Wow, FDNewbie, please show me where I shot down your or anyone else's idea? I never said your idea would not work. If anything, I was shooting down the integrity of the ones we refer to as NOOBS. Besides, even if I had shot your idea down, my word means nothing on here because I have absolutely no power over anything except my own devices. Sorry if this comes across harsh, but maybe we ALL need to check ourselves and look at what we are doing first before pointing out everyone else.

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

My bad if I misunderstood you...