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Old 06-21-04, 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by Blake
People need to be warned about Mr. Steven Hyde. He stole an animation from my web site (after being refused permission to use it), reformatted it to .gif, and now claims ownership of it. Is this the sort of person you would trust? Here is his email to me from less than 30 minutes ago:



Real smart!
sounds like he needs his legs broken, what a ******* scum bag.

as if any idiot can't just convert .mov to .gif.
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Originally posted by Blake
People need to be warned about Mr. Steven Hyde. He stole an animation from my web site (after being refused permission to use it), reformatted it to .gif, and now claims ownership of it. Is this the sort of person you would trust? Here is his email to me from less than 30 minutes ago:



Real smart!

I am a professional artist. You must realize that you may potentially sue for all profits gained by the use of your artwork as well as damages. changing the format is not enough.

if your animation is the same as the one he uses...or even recognizable in its plagiarism by that company then you will win the case.

After recieving that email, I would not even contact him again. Speak with a copyright lawyer if he won't be reasonable.

Believe it or not...theft of art is still theft.


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Old 06-21-04, 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by Blake
Mr. Steven Hyde is the guy at Performance Group Unlimited who stole the animation to sell this "anti-detonation" product.
Blake's animation...



"Steve's" animation, which I immediately recognized as being Blake's...



As if we didn't already know he wasn't smart enough to re-create the animation himself, he didn't even change the dimensions...

Is anyone here still so stupid or delusional that they don't understand that this guy is a world class ********? Anyone want to defend him still?
Old 06-21-04, 03:09 AM
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Personally I could care less about this guys other personal issues. I'm more less concerned if the product works like advertised. When it's all said an done there will be others offering these same/similar plugs. Then you can take your pick on whom you like to purchase from.
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Re: Anti-Det Installed

Originally posted by Jason
I wanted to see if the car would fire and idle, so I didnt make any changes to the Power FC. Car fired up on the first crank and idled perfect. I took it out for a drive and the car drove great with no hesistation and pulled really strong running 10lbs of boost. So far so good.


I noticed that you have a the HKS twin power. Do you think that the increased spark of that unit is helping you so far in an untuned state?
Old 06-21-04, 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by jimlab
Blake's animation...



"Steve's" animation, which I immediately recognized as being Blake's...



As if we didn't already know he wasn't smart enough to re-create the animation himself, he didn't even change the dimensions...

Is anyone here still so stupid or delusional that they don't understand that this guy is a world class ********? Anyone want to defend him still?
Fine, fine..... I'll remove the ******* animation from the website. Is everyone happy now? You just can't take the Quicktime movie on his site and save it as a .GIF, unless I missed the boat. I had to create my own source code for this and populate the .gif file which took me two weeks of off and on work in my CAD program.

Thanks,

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it doesnt matter...you are still a thief...you stole this idea from kdr and now you stole a forum members animation to promote it. you have still violated art copyright laws. you can still be sued.

thief.

I am completely disgusted.
Old 06-21-04, 09:50 AM
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Im getting tired of this ****. If you want to bitch about steven then create a new thread. He is not selling the plugs anymore. This thread is to discuss and talk about the plugs and the theory behind them.

Jason
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^^thank you jason..more info on the plugs please!
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Re: Anti-Det Installed

Originally posted by Jason
I didnt make any changes to the Power FC.
Just curious, is this a mostly stock car? What other mods does it have besides the PFC? Thanks .
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Re: Re: Anti-Det Installed

Originally posted by moehler
Just curious, is this a mostly stock car? What other mods does it have besides the PFC? Thanks .
Its almost stock http://www.rx7store.net/shopcar.htm
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Originally posted by Pg-Unlimited
Fine, fine..... I'll remove the ******* animation from the website. Is everyone happy now?

Thanks,

Steven
Very professional . How old are you?
Old 06-21-04, 11:12 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Anti-Det Installed

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Its almost stock http://www.rx7store.net/shopcar.htm
lol . Although you can test the leaner afr's, doesn't testing this on a car that's modded that with kind of power defeate the purpose of testing the ratio of power lost (from the missing plugs) to the power gained (from the leaner afr's)? It's already a VERY high horsepower seven... I would think that testing it on a slightly modded seven (or stock) would show more accurate results.

It's like when people test a muffler on a 600 hp car and say it gave them 30 hp, yet on a 300 hp car, it might only give 5 or 10 hp .
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anti-Det Installed

Originally posted by moehler
lol . Although you can test the leaner afr's, doesn't testing this on a car that's modded that with kind of power defeate the purpose of testing the ratio of power lost (from the missing plugs) to the power gained (from the leaner afr's)? It's already a VERY high horsepower seven... I would think that testing it on a slightly modded seven (or stock) would show more accurate results.

It's like when people test a muffler on a 600 hp car and say it gave them 30 hp, yet on a 300 hp car, it might only give 5 or 10 hp .
Yes and no. Look at it as a percentage loss/gain, and it should still be fairly accurate.
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Could we please keep this thread out of flame? So, we can let Jason test the things w/o locking the thread. As he mentions, if we want, we can start a flame thread just for Steven.
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Originally posted by Jason
Im getting tired of this ****. If you want to bitch about steven then create a new thread. He is not selling the plugs anymore. This thread is to discuss and talk about the plugs and the theory behind them.

Jason
PG Unlimited is NOT selling these? Then why is he arguing so much in all the threads about"his" butt plug?
WTF? And i thought his main argument/selling point was the little nipple that completly filled out the hole left by the plug.

And why does he want to use others art for selling a product he doen't sell? Did he finally relize it was a crock!?
I am now completely confused on who to ragg on!!

Sorry if that is to flamey then feel free to move it to the flame thread when it opens up. I just would like an honest answer to a now really confusing debate about who's plugs these are.And if they work.

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A ? was asked before if we will still have to run trailing ign or not Im alittel confused but still interested? Alittle more info would be nice.

Thanks
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Anti-Det Installed

Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Yes and no. Look at it as a percentage loss/gain, and it should still be fairly accurate.
I have to disagree. The difference between a car with no ignition upgrades and a stock or reprogrammed ECU and a car with an aftermarket ECU and ignition box could be substantial. I don't think that a parallel can be drawn and a fixed percentage applied here. The difference in tuning ability alone should result in far better results for cars with a programmable aftermarket ECU, and an ignition amplifier could mask the inability of a stock ignition to light off enough of the air/fuel charge with a single plug to maintain previous power levels.

Also, the main claim, unless I'm mistaken, was that this modification made it possible to run high boost on low octane fuel without risk of detonation. Implied is that this would primarily benefit cars with stock twins. A single turbo car already has a more efficient compressor and therefore would be less likely to need something like this anyway, and data collected from testing on such a car wouldn't necessarily apply to a pretty heavily modified car with stock twins. Once again, I don't think you can draw a parallel.

I am still puzzled as to why there is so little data available when supposedly there are 60+ test subjects that have had the "device" on their car for some time. The real key to proving that this works is a larger set of test vehicles that cover a wider range of configurations and component combinations.
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Originally posted by BigIslandSevens
PG Unlimited is NOT selling these? Then why is he arguing so much in all the threads about"his" butt plug?
WTF? And i thought his main argument/selling point was the little nipple that completly filled out the hole left by the plug.

And why does he want to use others art for selling a product he doen't sell? Did he finally relize it was a crock!?
I am now completely confused on who to ragg on!!

Sorry if that is to flamey then feel free to move it to the flame thread when it opens up. I just would like an honest answer to a now really confusing debate about who's plugs these are.And if they work.
He is not selling them and he has not posted about them since the first thread weeks ago. He has also taken down his website along with the animation. He has nothing to do with these plugs anymore so please let it die.

Jason
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Damn that is the first thing I have said about it . Chill buddy. Don't ban me please! He was/is so adament about it that there were sooo many different things stated I just wanted clarification. Damn didn't mean to strike a nerve. sheesh!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Anti-Det Installed

Originally posted by jimlab
I have to disagree. The difference between a car with no ignition upgrades and a stock or reprogrammed ECU and a car with an aftermarket ECU and ignition box could be substantial.

I am still puzzled as to why there is so little data available when supposedly there are 60+ test subjects that have had the "device" on their car for some time. The real key to proving that this works is a larger set of test vehicles that cover a wider range of configurations and component combinations.
But at least this way we'll have one reuptable person showing us hard numbers....so its a start
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Jason, I am in for a set when you get a deal going. One question, can having a open space in the housing create carbon biuld up then leading to a hot spot?
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But at least this way we'll have one reuptable person showing us hard numbers....so its a start
Absolutely.
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Big time, aslo who better than Jason to test these things.
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Originally posted by Blake
Yes, it is. Mr. Steven Hyde is the guy at Performance Group Unlimited who stole the animation to sell this "anti-detonation" product.
Oh, my bad. Sorry for that post then.


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