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Old 10-25-04, 10:24 PM
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AFR readings at idle?

What should the AFR readings be at idle? I have my car tuned at 11.7 right now at idle. I just want your guy's input.
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most people run a lean idle, to help prevent fouling plugs.
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13.6+ AFR's are smooth for me.
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14:1 @950rpms
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12.7:1 @ 900rpms but thats a bit too rich.
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Mine is always on RIch.. Is something wrong with my gauge?
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13.5 or area gives a nice smooth idle. The car tends to run rougher when you go leaner than this.
Anything lower than 13 and you're just wasting fuel and building carbon.
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Thanks guys, I'll tune for 13.5 tomorrow.
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Yeah, mine idles at about 10:1, no airpump
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Originally Posted by 7_rocket
Mine is always on RIch.. Is something wrong with my gauge?
Autometer a/f gauge running off the stock o2 sensor? Nothing wrong with it, just widely inaccurate.
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get it fixed yet?
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11.7 is a little rich, I had to lean mine out to prevent plug fouling and smoother run.
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Originally Posted by FDeez
Thanks guys, I'll tune for 13.5 tomorrow.
I got to 13.6 by dong an ALL DATA INIT on the commander. Make sure that you back-up your map before resttig the PFC. Basically restting the PFC to the base map. and then I let the PFC "learn" by letting the car idle for 45 minutes(15 mins w/ no elec load, 15 mins w/ the rear defog on, 15 mins w/ rear defog & parking lights on). DOing this lets emsures a smooth idle w/o "surging/hunting". Reload pevious map excluding the values in the idle cells.
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I'm not much formiliar with tunning so please don't flame me
I guess the lower the number the richer the mixture m"I right?
How do you tune it, with just a comander, or you need a datalogic?

Thanks.
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commander+wideband for accuracy
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Got no wideband yet...
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Originally Posted by RX7Wishing
commander+wideband for accuracy
You can pay an experienced tuner $400+ to tune your car to your mods on dyno using their equipment. Or you can buy a wideband$400 and the datalogit $300 and tune your own car on the street. Remember, everytime you add a new mod to your car, you should make sure that your fuel maps are safe for that configuration. Here are the links to buy those products:

http://www.fc-datalogit.co.nz/model-status.html
http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/default.htm
and a laptop computer. A cheaper 1G P3 should work fine you don't need a supoer fast PC to tune.
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