The RX-7 confirmed to be in the pipeline for 2017---RX-Vision Unveil!!
11-18-14, 05:20 PM
#2327
If they get the NB MX-5 down to 2,200lbs it would need 315hp crank to equal the R35 GTRs power to weight.
Easy enough with aftermarket; however-
can the chassis/body support wide wheels/tires needed to keep the speeds up around corners?
can the diameter wheels house brakes large enough to perform adequately at the new higher entry speeds?
can the drivetrain be reliable with the increased power? Or does heavier drivetrain need to be added (and more power)?
can the aerodynamics decrease lift at high speeds without adding excessive drag?
Basically, if you just add the power it becomes a one trick pony like an American muscle car that gets its *** whooped by the Corvette around a track.
Easy enough with aftermarket; however-
can the chassis/body support wide wheels/tires needed to keep the speeds up around corners?
can the diameter wheels house brakes large enough to perform adequately at the new higher entry speeds?
can the drivetrain be reliable with the increased power? Or does heavier drivetrain need to be added (and more power)?
can the aerodynamics decrease lift at high speeds without adding excessive drag?
Basically, if you just add the power it becomes a one trick pony like an American muscle car that gets its *** whooped by the Corvette around a track.
11-18-14, 06:16 PM
#2328
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I agree that what you wrote above. That's why we need engineering. But chassis resistance more important than the others because you can't build anything on the weak chassis. I am sure Mazda well how to build rigid chassis. And also RX-8 aerodynamic resistance is Co-efficient Drag is 0.31.
Many of your comment had answers we knew all of them.
I am sure they failed on emissions. So they havent got any engine to put next RX.
Nsx and supra preparing to return market so why not RX ? money profit distraction because how do they tell us the truth 'hey guys we cant produce it' because bla bla bla...
Many of your comment had answers we knew all of them.
I am sure they failed on emissions. So they havent got any engine to put next RX.
Nsx and supra preparing to return market so why not RX ? money profit distraction because how do they tell us the truth 'hey guys we cant produce it' because bla bla bla...
11-18-14, 06:24 PM
#2329
14 years ago, Mazda had specific goals when designing the 8 and non of those goals had anything to do with the hp wars we have today.
No, I understand how the rotary helped make the RX-8 the awesome handling car it is.
I just believe the RX-8 chassis was too big and capable for what the 13BMSP had to offer.
No, I understand how the rotary helped make the RX-8 the awesome handling car it is.
I just believe the RX-8 chassis was too big and capable for what the 13BMSP had to offer.
I see were your comming from. To me, (and I'm sure many others agree) it was underpowered for the chassis. 300hp would have been perfect for the 8. I still wanna buy one. If I do, the 1st mod I would do would be to pull the engine and apply my T-von tech to the Renesis.
11-19-14, 04:18 PM
#2332
Rotary Enthusiast
Lexus might be bringing 500 hp to the party: Lexus to build production version of the LF-LC concept | Evo
It's going to be a hell of a gunfight.
It's going to be a hell of a gunfight.
11-19-14, 10:03 PM
#2333
From RotaryNews FB page:
In an effort to clear up where the Rotary Engine currently stands at Mazda, RotaryNews.Com sat down today for an exclusive interview with Mazda CEO, Masamichi Kogai-San. Kogai-San has been misquoted in articles that have appeared over the last few days, so we wanted to clear waters.
The chat was short and concise and focused exclusively on the Rotary Engine. The following is the key messaging quotes Kogai-San wanted to convey on the future of RE at Mazda:
"I can tell you that Mazda IS proceeding with the research and development of the Rotary Engine, and the team doing the work does exist"
"as part of our responsibility (as the only manufacturer who has successfully commercialized the RE) , I do not think Mazda is allowed to discontinue the development of the Rotary Engine. But at the present time Mazda has no specific program or project (assigned) for the Rotary Engine, but Mazda will continue to explore all potential uses for the Rotary Engine."
Essentially no specific RE project has been green-lighted at Mazda, but we left the interview very optimistic at the future of RE at the company, and we were pleasantly surprised with the passion Kogai-San demonstrated for the little engine that could. So now you know!
In an effort to clear up where the Rotary Engine currently stands at Mazda, RotaryNews.Com sat down today for an exclusive interview with Mazda CEO, Masamichi Kogai-San. Kogai-San has been misquoted in articles that have appeared over the last few days, so we wanted to clear waters.
The chat was short and concise and focused exclusively on the Rotary Engine. The following is the key messaging quotes Kogai-San wanted to convey on the future of RE at Mazda:
"I can tell you that Mazda IS proceeding with the research and development of the Rotary Engine, and the team doing the work does exist"
"as part of our responsibility (as the only manufacturer who has successfully commercialized the RE) , I do not think Mazda is allowed to discontinue the development of the Rotary Engine. But at the present time Mazda has no specific program or project (assigned) for the Rotary Engine, but Mazda will continue to explore all potential uses for the Rotary Engine."
Essentially no specific RE project has been green-lighted at Mazda, but we left the interview very optimistic at the future of RE at the company, and we were pleasantly surprised with the passion Kogai-San demonstrated for the little engine that could. So now you know!
01-28-15, 01:36 AM
#2334
New RX-7 officially announced for 2017
not sure if you also heard about it,
but few days ago Kiyoshi Fujiwara (Mazda General Manager) announced a new rotary sports car for 2017 (50th anniversary of the cosmo). Guess how it is called? .... Mazda RX-7 2017. Today theres an article in a newspaper. I'm exited.
but few days ago Kiyoshi Fujiwara (Mazda General Manager) announced a new rotary sports car for 2017 (50th anniversary of the cosmo). Guess how it is called? .... Mazda RX-7 2017. Today theres an article in a newspaper. I'm exited.
01-28-15, 03:42 AM
#2337
heres the link, but it does not provide any further information and it is in german: Mazda RX-7 2017: Nachfolger für Wankelmotor-Sportwagen RX-8 - autozeitung.de
01-28-15, 07:54 AM
#2338
Please search as there's already an ongoing thread on this subject. You can forget about 2017. Mazda is trying to release 5 models over the next couple years. Not one of them will be an Rx7. They don't have the man power to move resources to Rx7 development while they try to get the other cars to market. We are just gonna have to wait.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...017-a-1016439/
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...017-a-1016439/
01-28-15, 09:10 AM
#2339
Please search as there's already an ongoing thread on this subject. You can forget about 2017. Mazda is trying to release 5 models over the next couple years. Not one of them will be an Rx7. They don't have the man power to move resources to Rx7 development while they try to get the other cars to market. We are just gonna have to wait.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...017-a-1016439/
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...017-a-1016439/
And yes this thread should be merged with the ongoing one.
Last edited by Montego; 01-28-15 at 09:14 AM.
01-28-15, 09:44 AM
#2340
Not too sure about forgetting 2017.... The article shows yesterday's date and it clearly states that there was an official confirmation coming from Mazda's chief engineer that the car will debut in the tokyo auto show in fall of 2017. So it seems that Mazda has been pulling our legs all along in an attempt to keep people talking about it. Or its a fake article...
And yes this thread should be merged with the ongoing one.
I just translated the article and see your point. I wouldn't be surprised that they were pulling our legs as they do have the Miata chassis to build off of now. Plus I was thinking "released in 2017" which is what the other threads have been talking about. Either way, if it does show up at the auto show in 2017, car is still 4-5 yrs out from now from us getting our hands on it.
01-28-15, 11:54 AM
#2343
Translation:
MAZDA MAKES WANKEL AGAIN
No more smoke and mirrors: Mazda -Entwicklungschef confirms new sports car with rotary engine. Premiere for the RX-7 is in autumn 2017
Since pleased the Wankel friends: Mazda development chief Kiyoshi Fujiwara has officially confirmed on the edge of an event in Barcelona that the Japanese on the Tokyo Motor Show in autumn 2017 will introduce a new sports car with rotary engine.
MAZDA RX-7 2017: NEW WANKEL SPORTS CAR
The two-door model to reflect the traditional name Mazda RX-7 2017 bear and sold by 2012 RX-8 heir. The date is not dialed at random. Thus, the Cosmo Sport celebrates, in his first Wankel Mazda 2017 his 50th birthday.
MAZDA MAKES WANKEL AGAIN
No more smoke and mirrors: Mazda -Entwicklungschef confirms new sports car with rotary engine. Premiere for the RX-7 is in autumn 2017
Since pleased the Wankel friends: Mazda development chief Kiyoshi Fujiwara has officially confirmed on the edge of an event in Barcelona that the Japanese on the Tokyo Motor Show in autumn 2017 will introduce a new sports car with rotary engine.
MAZDA RX-7 2017: NEW WANKEL SPORTS CAR
The two-door model to reflect the traditional name Mazda RX-7 2017 bear and sold by 2012 RX-8 heir. The date is not dialed at random. Thus, the Cosmo Sport celebrates, in his first Wankel Mazda 2017 his 50th birthday.
01-28-15, 01:09 PM
#2345
The translation icon popped up on my phone.
Edit: Looks like Adam C did the work for you.
Lets see....we're in the early parts of 2015 so we still have to wait another 2-1/2 years to see it. Start saving your pennies folks. At least Mazda could tease us with new engine pics or something??
Edit: Looks like Adam C did the work for you.
Lets see....we're in the early parts of 2015 so we still have to wait another 2-1/2 years to see it. Start saving your pennies folks. At least Mazda could tease us with new engine pics or something??
01-28-15, 04:51 PM
#2349
^ I'm with you on that one Gordon. I have no interest in a highly strung out 2 rotor that wont last anywhere near 100k. If their gonna play in the hp wars, the rotary is gonna need some added displacement. A two engine option is still best IMO. For those that dont want to spend the money, they have their option. For those that can spend spend the money, we should be able to have our option as well.
01-30-15, 01:01 PM
#2350
Full Member
I still think they need to put a 3 rotor NA motor in there and Yamamoto has always been against it due to packaging concerns that he feels would impact handling. He's wrong and I don't care anyway. However, I'm not spending $80,000+ on a 2 rotor motor whether single turbo or supercharged or NA. I don't care how nice it looks or what its performance is like. If it ends up having 3 rotors, I'm interested. With 3 rotors supercharged I'm sending a deposit... This thing needs to be muy special to get me off my FD.
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...if I had enough money, that is...
Andrea.
