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curacaosfinest 10-31-12 04:38 PM

The RX-7 confirmed to be in the pipeline for 2017---RX-Vision Unveil!!
 
Well its still pretty far off guys, but looks like we will be seeing another RX7!!!

Confirmed by Yamamoto himself!

heres the story:

Mazda RX-7 Confirmed For 2017 Return | Reviews | Prices | Australian specifications

DISCUSS!!

:icon_tup:

Hernan1209 10-31-12 04:46 PM

Well, its going to be five years from today, many things can change and will change, so I will not believe it until I see one at the Mazda leadership.

BlowenByTwins 10-31-12 04:52 PM

Lighter than an FD and a 300hp 16X? I'm in... :icon_tup:

I wonder what it'll look like.

Montego 10-31-12 05:35 PM

I googled it and this one actually seems legit. humnnn interesting to see how this all pans out

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...e-in-2017.html

SA3R 10-31-12 06:54 PM

There was no way a car like the RX-7 would have been just forgotten by Mazda, after all the design work and accomplishments.

**Two years ago, we went to Japan and toured the Mazda facilities with a scheduled tour group while we were bringing cars back to Aus. There was a nice young Japanese lady rep who spoke good english and was showing our group around. My Dad & I kept pestering her at like every stop, asking if there was going to be a new RX-7 built any time soon. Thinking back, we were probably being really rude, but it was the last time we were going to Japan, so we wanted to know.

"Can you give us a hint then?"
"I'm sorry, no. I cannot give that information out." (She always kept smiling)
"Are they building anything? Will there be anything new with a rotary engine in it?"

Girl pauses.

"Over there-" (Points to large installation facility building off in the distance through window) "That is where all new research and design takes place."

"Are they working on an RX-7 in there? Something new with a rotary?"

Girl sort of paused. "Maybe." (smiles like she knows more) "We must continue our tour now."

That was the closest we ever got. Never heard any more about it until this 16X thing, and sort of disregarded all the internet misinformation up until today.

ALPSTA 10-31-12 07:04 PM

So far I'm not impressed with the hints about the project and the figures. Back in the day RX7 was considered to be a Japanese supercar and wasn't far off its European competitors. So if the new one is anything less than a Japanese supercar in 2017 standards I'll be disappointed. We all know where the benchmark is atm. If Mazda is planning to make a high powered GT86, BRZ etc. then they should call it RX9 or something. Just having a rotary engine and 2 seats doesn't qualify a car to be called RX-7 imo, it's much more than that.

Customisbetter 10-31-12 07:11 PM

^The FC was a GT car, the FE a sports sedan, and the FB was a raw sports car. Just because the FD was a supercar does not mean the next will have to be. I'd love for them to go back to something like the BRZ/FB and give us a sweet driving experience.

ptrhahn 10-31-12 07:20 PM

The RX7 wasn't always a Japanese supercar. Only the FD really was, and I'm STILL amazed at how many people chose it to essentially be a drag car, because it was never really THAT kind of car.

If you're looking for a Mazda GTR, I don't think that's going to happen. BUT, something that slots in between an Elise and Z06, with super handling. THAT Mazda could do. This actually sounds like that.

ALPSTA 10-31-12 08:00 PM

90% of the time when I say RX7 I mean FD3S. I should've been more specific. Eitherway I'm sure most would agree FD3S was the best RX7 and peak of RX series so why go backwards now and if you must then why insist on calling it RX7 and ruin the legend. Unless Mazda manufactures another legendary car, I will not be happy about the RX7 name being used. It'd just ruin our cars heritage. Look what the lastest MR2 did to previous MR2s. And on the contrary look what Porsche does with the 911, each one is better than the last and is up to the standards of its day.

Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting a monster like a GTR or a Z06 but let's say if the new RX7 was released today I'd like it to find a place amongst e92 m3, carrera S etc. I don't know how Mazda can compete with anything let alone with the cars I mentioned with only 300hp. Lightweight means comfort and quality sacrifices these days although they'd rephrase it as "pure" and "performance oriented", just look at FRS/BRZ/GT86.

Only real japanese supercar atm is Lexus LF-A. I know Mazda can't keep up with that or even get close being in the financial situation they are in so ok I'll cut them some slack....

prrex4ever 10-31-12 08:04 PM

Yes!:nod:

ptrhahn 10-31-12 08:08 PM

Well, they're selling Lotus Elises and Exiges with >200 hp. If the car was 2500 lbs or less with 300 hp, you'd have something. It won't be a "road kill" type of car, but it could be a great track car.

arghx 10-31-12 08:31 PM

All the people who want a Z06 competitor can't afford to buy one new.

96fd3s 10-31-12 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Customisbetter (Post 11272808)
^The FC was a GT car, the FE a sports sedan, and the FB was a raw sports car. Just because the FD was a supercar does not mean the next will have to be. I'd love for them to go back to something like the BRZ/FB and give us a sweet driving experience.


thats just what the rx7 gives us.. a sweet drivign experience :scratch:

the BRZ is what, a mediocre sports car

NoPis10 10-31-12 09:06 PM

I think Mazda is waiting to long to make this happen.

This should have been on the table along time ago and it should be on the road TODAY. they are missing the boat and it will cost them sales.

arghx 10-31-12 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by NoPis10 (Post 11272930)
I think Mazda is waiting to long to make this happen.

This should have been on the table along time ago and it should be on the road TODAY. they are missing the boat and it will cost them sales.

You don't build sports cars because they're profitable, especially when they are built in Japan and sold at high price due to exchange rates. They're basically vanity projects and marketing tools that a small portion of the company will push for.

They did the right thing. You really think they were going to put an unproven sports car into development back in 2008? That's when the industry was in terrible shape and every manufacturer put fuel economy projects at high priority. Lots and lots of cool projects got killed back then, like the V10 NSX.

MisterX 10-31-12 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Alpsta (Post 11272853)
I'm sure most would agree FD3S was the best RX7 and peak of RX series so why go backwards now and if you must then why insist on calling it RX7 and ruin the legend.

Absolutely the view I've held since the discontinuation of the 3rd gen in the states. To downgrade the RX-7 back to a FRS/BRZ competitor is just taking the brand down vs maintaining the cachet of the FD relative to its competition.

Originally Posted by arghx (Post 11272899)
All the people who want a Z06 competitor can't afford to buy one new.

80 to 100 big ones IS a big chunk of change. They'd never get any real volume at that price point.
Then again, a 3 rotor turbo that's much lighter than the competition would convert a lot of people away from the 3500+ lb. pigs.

cptpain 10-31-12 09:23 PM

Good thing its a long way off..... gives me time to stack up a lot of money.

XLR8 10-31-12 10:28 PM

I think of all the people that realize the heritage of the RX-7, Mazda is among them. There are many dynamics to how the new car could be. Ultimately, no amount of speculation will show what Mazda will release. I can only hope it's good.

MR_Rick 10-31-12 10:43 PM

IMO there is a lot of "wishful" thinking here. Some wants a ZO6 eater but that will never happen out of Mazda. Mazda is more of a handling car than horse power kind of number car. I think if that is what they are planning to do (less weight, decent HP figures), it should stick to that... a Miata/MX-5 on steroids. Believe or not the FR-S/BRZ is becoming the bench mark for a lot of manufactures right now. We are going back to the late 70's, 80's here where there was a fuel crisis. There are a lot of rumors that even Nissan is going that route, it makes sense and Mazda had that figured out a long time ago with the Miata. Where I see the issue with this future RX-7 is that there are rumors of the BRZ coming out with a turbocharged model under the price range of the 370Z. FR-S/BRZ with aftermarket turbo kits is doing pretty freaking good (400whp gets you in the 11s with stock internals). Pricing the next gen RX-7 above the 370Z better have something to show for or it is going to choke IMO though.

I don't think the FD will ever get out done by Mazda. The only reason I can see that happening is if the Japanese start another sports car race with HP numbers in mind. Right now the focus is doing more with less.

ptrhahn 10-31-12 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by arghx (Post 11272899)
All the people who want a Z06 competitor can't afford to buy one new.

I'd agree, except Nissan found a market for the GTR. I think the key is, to build something nobody else is building (like the GTR), not just a straight competitor for something else.

I sound like a broken record, but nobody builds that car that's between a Zo6 and an Elise. Mazda could.

cptpain 10-31-12 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by ptrhahn (Post 11273050)
I'd agree, except Nissan found a market for the GTR. I think the key is, to build something nobody else is building (like the GTR), not just a straight competitor for something else.

Nissan used the Porsche 911 Turbo as its "benchmark" car and rival......

T&B rotary 10-31-12 11:14 PM

it isnt an rx7 without pop up headlights! juss putting that out their..

vrx8 10-31-12 11:39 PM

I just starter a 2017 RX7 Savings Account lol

rotary_rob 11-01-12 12:17 AM

Well there goes the value of our cars

FD_RICKY 11-01-12 02:02 AM

i wanted to save for an nsx :(
now ill have to save for this... somehow


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