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Ill guess $105k before fees. Id be willing to bet there are more under 10k mile Supras left then FDs. Guys were parking the Supras back in the mid 2000s when prices made their first surge. I'm sure it will be an interesting year for the Supra market on BAT as it is seeming to gain a little traction.
I remember late 90's/early 00's Supra guys driving around with the speedometer cable disconnected so they wouldn't run the mileage up. That was actually a common thing!
I remember late 90's/early 00's Supra guys driving around with the speedometer cable disconnected so they wouldn't run the mileage up. That was actually a common thing!
Dale
I remember that too. It's connected to the clock IIRC and was super easy to remove.
Not saying anything about this one... but I have the exact same memory.
I remember late 90's/early 00's Supra guys driving around with the speedometer cable disconnected so they wouldn't run the mileage up. That was actually a common thing!
This makes a pretty good apples-to-apples low mileage MKIV vs. low mileage FD price comparison, down to the color. It seems that at these mileage/condition levels, an original 6-speed Supra is worth about 2 1/2 times what an FD is.
This makes a pretty good apples-to-apples low mileage MKIV vs. low mileage FD price comparison, down to the color. It seems that at these mileage/condition levels, an original 6-speed Supra is worth about 2 1/2 times what an FD is.
Nah, just ask the experts on here. The FD is basically worth the same as Supras... LOL
I guess I just don't get it. I mean the values are driven by demand and availability, but why? On my scale, as far as appeal, the supra ranks close to the same as the imported 90s Skylines, an ugly, heavy old Nissan with the steering wheel on the wrong side. Don't get me wrong, they both were cool muscle cars, especially the supra, what with the amount of power you could throw at the stock engine internals. This Toyota just sold for $120k? A true supercar like an NSX should be selling for $240k. Makes no sense. Give me an NSX, a tastefully modded FD, or (gasp) a nice 996 over a Supra any day, and twice on Sunday.
I guess I just don't get it. I mean the values are driven by demand and availability, but why? On my scale, as far as appeal, the supra ranks close to the same as the imported 90s Skylines, an ugly, heavy old Nissan with the steering wheel on the wrong side. Don't get me wrong, they both were cool muscle cars, especially the supra, what with the amount of power you could throw at the stock engine internals. This Toyota just sold for $120k? A true supercar like an NSX should be selling for $240k. Makes no sense. Give me an NSX, a tastefully modded FD, or (gasp) a nice 996 over a Supra any day, and twice on Sunday.
The NSX to me is the turd of the 90s Japanese cars. Ive driven several, though never owned one. Its under powered, and doesnt feel as stable as the porches Ive driven when cornering. The NSX looked great in 91 but its not aged well. It is the only car I can think of that looks better with a body kit then without. I've owned Supras, I understand the appeal in the $30-50k range, there really isnt much that compares to the performance when modded and the supra is far from a slouch on the track like the FD guys here try to make it out to be. The Supra's looks definitely arent on par with the FD but its build quality is far superior. $120k....thats hard to swallow and I think only a fool would pay that price for that car with what else is in on the market in the same range. However, I also believe only a fool would pay north of $30k for a FD when you can see what else is out there in the same range.
The FD, the Supra and the NSX all have their following and offer something unique. At the end of the day I judge on overall appearance and driver experience. I do not have a collectors mindset and likely never will. With that said, technology has come a long way since any of these cars were produced. I drove my FD last night on some back roads in cool 40 degree air and was reminded again of why the car is special. Its not $50k special though, I could be driving a used 911 turbo that started at $150k for that price point with way more creature comforts and better performance and arguably better looks. Basically, we can all justify one car over another based on our preference. The FD gives me an experience the Supra never could, I also didn't cringe over every bump in my supra, knew the air was gonna be ice cold on a 95 degree day and never once smelled like fuel when I went in to a restaurant or bar to meet friends.
Comparing a Supra to a 996 is crazy. I've driven a clean turbo 996 and a Supra is hands down better, unless all you care about is owning a Porsche for the name. They are only going up in price because all the other models are now much more expensive. Just like crappy old 914s are now worth money.
An NSX from the 90's is not a true supercar, just like an FD and Supra are not. You can't put it in a different category. The new NSX is a super car, you can't say the old one is just because the new one is.
I'm with DJ, not a collectors mindset myself. But if you put yourself in a collector's shoes, these low mileage examples are worth what they are selling for (obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be selling).
Eww. Runny eggs. They look halfway decent with an aftermarket bumper. And at lease the updated runny egg headlights, but preferably 991 conversion haha
with dj on the supra and fd commentary... minus the nsx
the nsx on the track is very forgiving and probably so as it is underpowered...
styling and nostalgia is whats keeping it in the price range its in imho....
Comparing a Supra to a 996 is crazy. I've driven a clean turbo 996 and a Supra is hands down better, unless all you care about is owning a Porsche for the name. They are only going up in price because all the other models are now much more expensive. Just like crappy old 914s are now worth money.
An NSX from the 90's is not a true supercar, just like an FD and Supra are not. You can't put it in a different category. The new NSX is a super car, you can't say the old one is just because the new one is.
I'm with DJ, not a collectors mindset myself. But if you put yourself in a collector's shoes, these low mileage examples are worth what they are selling for (obviously, otherwise they wouldn't be selling).
Disagree on two accounts. The NSX was certainly regarded by some as THE jap supercar of the 90s. The performance figures (for the time period), mid-engine layout, the engineering (ayrton senna influence) etc. Underpowered, yes maybe a little compared to the FD, Supra, 911 turbo, et al. It was like a $150k car in today's money when you factor in people were paying $20k plus over sticker. initially. Secondly, and maybe I'm in the minority, but, a Supra, "hands down better" than a 996 turbo? Sweet Jesus. I've heard it all now. Is all the 996 hate truly because the headlights were not round enough?
Disagree on two accounts. The NSX was certainly regarded by some as THE jap supercar of the 90s. The performance figures (for the time period), mid-engine layout, the engineering (ayrton senna influence) etc. Underpowered, yes maybe a little compared to the FD, Supra, 911 turbo, et al. It was like a $150k car in today's money when you factor in people were paying $20k plus over sticker. initially. Secondly, and maybe I'm in the minority, but, a Supra, "hands down better" than a 996 turbo? Sweet Jesus. I've heard it all now. Is all the 996 hate truly because the headlights were not round enough?
It's all about supply and demand........PERIOD!!!!
Demand in the collector market has rarely made sense to me........one's desire for a specific car is an emotional thing which rarely makes sense on paper
Practically speaking it's all about mustangs and camaros. That said those type cars are on the frayed edges of my FEELS radar and the FD pretty much hits the bullseye (light weight, looks good and fun to drive).
There is no way I can possibly explain why someone would spend 121k on a supra or worse 500k plus on a 4.0 GT3 but clearly the desire for each of them is STRONG!!!!!
Disagree on two accounts. The NSX was certainly regarded by some as THE jap supercar of the 90s. The performance figures (for the time period), mid-engine layout, the engineering (ayrton senna influence) etc. Underpowered, yes maybe a little compared to the FD, Supra, 911 turbo, et al. It was like a $150k car in today's money when you factor in people were paying $20k plus over sticker. initially. Secondly, and maybe I'm in the minority, but, a Supra, "hands down better" than a 996 turbo? Sweet Jesus. I've heard it all now. Is all the 996 hate truly because the headlights were not round enough?
Have you personally driven an NSX, Supra, or 996 turbo?
I drove a clean 996 turbo 2 weeks ago. Yes, the front end is hideous, but even ignoring that, I'd prefer to drive a Supra any day. It just drives better.
Have you driven the NSX? If you haven't driven it, an FD, and a supra, you wouldn't cal it THE supercar from Japan in the 90's. You are just saying what the Honda marketing team generated. I could be wrong and maybe you have driven all of them, I just don't see how it's so different than the other Japanese sports cars produced to put it at a different level. In my mind a supercar from the 90's is a diablo, or top level Ferrari, or others that are similar. Performance may be similar in some cases, but that's not the only thing that makes a car a supercar.
Have you personally driven an NSX, Supra, or 996 turbo?
I drove a clean 996 turbo 2 weeks ago. Yes, the front end is hideous, but even ignoring that, I'd prefer to drive a Supra any day. It just drives better.
Have you driven the NSX? If you haven't driven it, an FD, and a supra, you wouldn't cal it THE supercar from Japan in the 90's. You are just saying what the Honda marketing team generated. I could be wrong and maybe you have driven all of them, I just don't see how it's so different than the other Japanese sports cars produced to put it at a different level. In my mind a supercar from the 90's is a diablo, or top level Ferrari, or others that are similar. Performance may be similar in some cases, but that's not the only thing that makes a car a supercar.
No. I haven't drivent them all. Only a base 996 carrera, and obviously FDs. Rode in a MkIV Supra TT around town once owned by one of my college professors years ago. Don't have any real interest in driving the Toyota or the 911 turbo. My interest in driving or owning (other than my FD) would be the purist cars-- GT3 or an NSX. Just my opinion.
