How to value your FD
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06-06-21, 03:55 AM
#3827
I was truly surprised by that number. Brave new world indeed.
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06-07-21, 04:04 PM
#3832
$36.5k is more than the CYM on BaT from November, that one has 40k miles but accident history. Accident and paint work will drive buyer away even low mile example, without more info on body work history I actually think the price is trending higher.
06-08-21, 09:42 AM
#3835
Well, that CYM didn't actually sell. I know because i didn't hear back from the seller after submitting my deposit Sunday night and woke up today to the order being cancelled and my deposit being refunded. Reason was "out of stock or damaged". No message from the seller or anything.
Now that it is cancelled, can't find a way to leave seller feedback.
I guess it's for the best though. Only went for it just because I really don't know when another will pop up.
Now that it is cancelled, can't find a way to leave seller feedback.
I guess it's for the best though. Only went for it just because I really don't know when another will pop up.
06-08-21, 11:17 AM
#3837
Yeah. I didn't know you could do that. Should be able to charge interest for holding my deposit for 2 days...
It's probably for the best, with a seller like that, who knows what gremlins are hiding. but I was very much looking forward to posting a picture of cutting off the leather pieces.
It's probably for the best, with a seller like that, who knows what gremlins are hiding. but I was very much looking forward to posting a picture of cutting off the leather pieces.
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06-08-21, 12:13 PM
#3838
Full Member
Has inventory REALLY dried up this much? I've been strongly considering selling mine to help fund house projects. This isn't helping with me with wanting to keep it haha.
06-08-21, 12:45 PM
#3840
Spending time within the bubble of this forum can give you impression that most FDs are in good shape and being lovingly, sympathetically restored by their owners with tasteful upgrades and modifications along the way. Venture out into FB groups or car shows and the reality is the vast majority of FDs are some combination of falling apart or modified to death. I estimate less than one in 10 of the ~5,000 US-registered FDs are stock body clean examples that still retain the sequential twins, so less than 500 total. Probably closer to 250 total for really clean cars. Make no mistake, the FD (LHD especially) is extremely rare.
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06-08-21, 12:52 PM
#3841
Full Member
Good points. It took me quite a while to find my 93 Base model. I specifically didn't want a sunroof and wanted either Montego or Black. The problem is that I REALLY fear taking this thing out for a drive anymore around here. It's an accident free vehicle and I'd love to keep it that way so I've basically put like 100 miles on it in the past 3 years it's been road worthy. I love looking at it every time I open the garage but..... It's becoming harder and harder for me to justify keeping it around the Atlanta area with all our inconsiderate drivers jam packed in such a small space.
06-08-21, 02:23 PM
#3842
Senior Member
Supply is indeed low. I think most good examples are transacting privately without ever hitting the open market. Most sellers don't want to deal with all the flakers and clowns that come with selling a 90s Japanese car.
Spending time within the bubble of this forum can give you impression that most FDs are in good shape and being lovingly, sympathetically restored by their owners with tasteful upgrades and modifications along the way. Venture out into FB groups or car shows and the reality is the vast majority of FDs are some combination of falling apart or modified to death. I estimate less than one in 10 of the ~5,000 US-registered FDs are stock body clean examples that still retain the sequential twins, so less than 500 total. Probably closer to 250 total for really clean cars. Make no mistake, the FD (LHD especially) is extremely rare.
Spending time within the bubble of this forum can give you impression that most FDs are in good shape and being lovingly, sympathetically restored by their owners with tasteful upgrades and modifications along the way. Venture out into FB groups or car shows and the reality is the vast majority of FDs are some combination of falling apart or modified to death. I estimate less than one in 10 of the ~5,000 US-registered FDs are stock body clean examples that still retain the sequential twins, so less than 500 total. Probably closer to 250 total for really clean cars. Make no mistake, the FD (LHD especially) is extremely rare.
06-10-21, 11:09 AM
#3843
Rotary Enthusiast
I hope we've passed the point of peak attrition for FDs. The tuner and drift crazes are mostly past (i.e., they've moved on to newer platforms for ongoing sponsorships and factory support), so maybe some of those hacked up FDs can be salvaged and restored to a better state... by people with the actual skills and the time to do a proper job.
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06-10-21, 01:16 PM
#3844
Beater FD for torture or parting up have disappeared from our market.
We even have a few examples of imports from the US! Viva the strong C$!
Watch for the wealth effect of stronger oil, lumber and copper prices.
We are emerging from the woods!
We even have a few examples of imports from the US! Viva the strong C$!
Watch for the wealth effect of stronger oil, lumber and copper prices.
We are emerging from the woods!
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06-10-21, 02:32 PM
#3845
I'd have to agree. All of the work on mine since the late 90's was done by Dave at KD Rotary/Speed1 before he closed up shop. Pretty much every year over those 20 years or so, I'd spend the better part of a day at his various shops while he did whatever was needed to my car. Invariably he'd have a bunch of other FD's on the lot and I have to say almost all of them were pretty rough. Bad body kits, trashed interiors, engine bays in disarray, etc. I can't imagine it's gotten better in the ensuing years....
I was 8 years old when I first saw an FD and I knew I had to have one. By 13-14, I was one of the most active on this forum while it was still in its infancy. I consumed as much content and knowledge available at the time. I was obsessed. By 16 in the early 2000s, after looking at as many as possible locally and seeing complete and utter POS after POS...the dream started to fade. I accepted the fact that an FD was just not a suitable or realistic car for a 16 year-old with no experience wrenching on cars, even though I was well resourced. I realized finding a clean FD, let alone an SSM R2 that I wanted, would require a national search, and that just wasn't in the cards at 16. I was devastated beyond a level I'm comfortable to admit. Then my arch nemesis jimlab paid to have me booted off here and the rest is history.
Fast forward to early 2018, and after a conversation with my brother who just had a baby who is unlikely to experience what "real sports cars" are like by the time he's driving age...it hit me. Hard. I have the money, time, and space for a garage queen, and it will be an FD. When I set out to search for the cleanest 94-95 SSM, VR, or CW FD available, I was expecting it to take months. It took 15 minutes and I wired the money that day. Two weeks later, some say there was a grown man bawling his eyes out watching his SSM R2 being unloaded off a truck.
I'm glad I didn't get one off Autotrader or Craigslist at 16. I'm glad so many FDs are junk. If it were any different, my experience would not be the same and it's unlikely I'd have one now.
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06-10-21, 07:43 PM
#3846
That's why it took me 20+ years to buy an FD.
I was 8 years old when I first saw an FD and I knew I had to have one. By 13-14, I was one of the most active on this forum while it was still in its infancy. I consumed as much content and knowledge available at the time. I was obsessed. By 16 in the early 2000s, after looking at as many as possible locally and seeing complete and utter POS after POS...the dream started to fade. I accepted the fact that an FD was just not a suitable or realistic car for a 16 year-old with no experience wrenching on cars, even though I was well resourced. I realized finding a clean FD, let alone an SSM R2 that I wanted, would require a national search, and that just wasn't in the cards at 16. I was devastated beyond a level I'm comfortable to admit. Then my arch nemesis jimlab paid to have me booted off here and the rest is history.
Fast forward to early 2018, and after a conversation with my brother who just had a baby who is unlikely to experience what "real sports cars" are like by the time he's driving age...it hit me. Hard. I have the money, time, and space for a garage queen, and it will be an FD. When I set out to search for the cleanest 94-95 SSM, VR, or CW FD available, I was expecting it to take months. It took 15 minutes and I wired the money that day. Two weeks later, some say there was a grown man bawling his eyes out watching his SSM R2 being unloaded off a truck.
I'm glad I didn't get one off Autotrader or Craigslist at 16. I'm glad so many FDs are junk. If it were any different, my experience would not be the same and it's unlikely I'd have one now.
I was 8 years old when I first saw an FD and I knew I had to have one. By 13-14, I was one of the most active on this forum while it was still in its infancy. I consumed as much content and knowledge available at the time. I was obsessed. By 16 in the early 2000s, after looking at as many as possible locally and seeing complete and utter POS after POS...the dream started to fade. I accepted the fact that an FD was just not a suitable or realistic car for a 16 year-old with no experience wrenching on cars, even though I was well resourced. I realized finding a clean FD, let alone an SSM R2 that I wanted, would require a national search, and that just wasn't in the cards at 16. I was devastated beyond a level I'm comfortable to admit. Then my arch nemesis jimlab paid to have me booted off here and the rest is history.
Fast forward to early 2018, and after a conversation with my brother who just had a baby who is unlikely to experience what "real sports cars" are like by the time he's driving age...it hit me. Hard. I have the money, time, and space for a garage queen, and it will be an FD. When I set out to search for the cleanest 94-95 SSM, VR, or CW FD available, I was expecting it to take months. It took 15 minutes and I wired the money that day. Two weeks later, some say there was a grown man bawling his eyes out watching his SSM R2 being unloaded off a truck.
I'm glad I didn't get one off Autotrader or Craigslist at 16. I'm glad so many FDs are junk. If it were any different, my experience would not be the same and it's unlikely I'd have one now.
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