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Well, now that the deal has been finalized, I have her home. 1993 VR, Previous owner believes her to be a touring. I need to call MNAO to verify with the vin, but I believe it correlates. I've seen my fair share of FD's over fifteen years, but I haven't seen one with black leather interior, it's always been black cloth. How rare would you guys say this interior is? (pictured below.) Also, if memory serves, the glass sunroof wasn't available until 94, however this one does have a glass sunroof, and it is a Webasto, which I believe is the factory provider. Then again, it could have been swapped out. 75,000~ on it. I paid 15,000. Fritz was accurate on his price prediction, what say now?
I'm pretty sure you could get a base in black leather. You could definitely get a base with tan interior and of course tan leather seats.
Tons of black leather touring 93s.
If it doesn't have the rear wiper I'd be leaning toward aftermarket sunroof added which IMO lowers the value quite a bit. Based on the wrinkled look of the passenger seat I'd say the seats were recovered.
I've never seen a touring with factory black interior I don't think. I have had several red bases with leather seats from the factory and one ssm. I'm not sure I recall a black base with black leather though.
Aftermarket sunroof, might be a glass panel for the metal roof. Would love to see more pictures.
Here are two that I snapped this morning, hopefully it will shine some light.
So If what I'm reading is correct, Touring models did not come with black leather interior, so, this car must have been a base with these accessories added at the original sale, or after.
I've never seen a touring with factory black interior I don't think. I have had several red bases with leather seats from the factory and one ssm. I'm not sure I recall a black base with black leather though.
Pietro has one here on the forum. I've had several VR/black 94 tourings and at least one 93.
Well, I just took a crazy trip down memory lane. You are correct Fritz. There was VR/Black touring 93s. I found the two links above that I sold over 10 years ago.
If everyone wants to research FD and Supra pricing 12-16 years ago here is a great link, Cars for sale | SpeedForSale MotorsportsSpeedForSale Motorsports. It made me smile going back and looking at some of those cars. I can still remember some of their nuances and the owners we purchased from and eventually sold to. Made some great friends a long the way as well. Good times.
Yep I'd say 5k min on the auto trans and another 2k min on the sunroof.
they are supposed to be emailing me the brochure, but I haven't gotten it yet.
Also, I did happen to find out through the call that it still needs the brake vacuum recall and fuel recall done. I called my local dealership, and was literally told by the service advisor I would get a call back tomorrow, and that they weren't sure if they even had the equipment to perform it...😆 Aren't those required by law?
Hearing back from MNAO with the brochure, It does confirm what you guys have mentioned, that black leather was available (if the seats were recovered or not.) It does mention, though, that the sunroof is part of the touring package for the 93 model year. Which, also includes the Bose system. The car does not have the bose system, but it does have the sunroof, obviously. I looked into the manufacturer, Daikyo Webasto was incorporated I think in the late nineties, though Webasto did make the sunroof for the FC's, based on what I've read on the forums.
The brochure doesn't hint at the sunroof being available outside of the touring package, but it does mention the sunroof and bose being exclusive to it. Everything looks factory as far as the sunroof controls go, so I'm unsure if maybe the dealers offered to install the sunroof as an add on that isn't referenced in the brochure, and then the glass one was installed after the fact, or what. This proves interesting. If anyone wants the Brochure let me know and I will find a way to host it.
Dealer probably installed it. It was popular in the 90's to add a sunroof, when not optioned on the vehicle. The factory controls should be on the dome light. They might've used factory switches or similar. Doesn't appear to mount the same as factory sunroof, so the switches might be where that ends. Take some more pictures for us. You could just take pictures of the brochure, too.
Hearing back from MNAO with the brochure, It does confirm what you guys have mentioned, that black leather was available (if the seats were recovered or not.) It does mention, though, that the sunroof is part of the touring package for the 93 model year. Which, also includes the Bose system. The car does not have the bose system, but it does have the sunroof, obviously. I looked into the manufacturer, Daikyo Webasto was incorporated I think in the late nineties, though Webasto did make the sunroof for the FC's, based on what I've read on the forums.
The brochure doesn't hint at the sunroof being available outside of the touring package, but it does mention the sunroof and bose being exclusive to it. Everything looks factory as far as the sunroof controls go, so I'm unsure if maybe the dealers offered to install the sunroof as an add on that isn't referenced in the brochure, and then the glass one was installed after the fact, or what. This proves interesting. If anyone wants the Brochure let me know and I will find a way to host it.
Your sunroof is 100% an aftermarket unit. Your car looks like a base model some had a sunroof installed in and then had the seats redone in leather when the cloth wore out.
Yeah, sunroof definitely is aftermarket. If this is a touring, aside from Bose you'll also have foglights, rear wiper and cruise control. Not sure if he PO will go through all the trouble to remove them, so look for a nozzle on your hatch, switch on the wiper stick and cruise control switch on your steering wheel, if you don't have any of those then this is probably a base, which comes in black interior.
Yeah, sunroof definitely is aftermarket. If this is a touring, aside from Bose you'll also have foglights, rear wiper and cruise control. Not sure if he PO will go through all the trouble to remove them, so look for a nozzle on your hatch, switch on the wiper stick and cruise control switch on your steering wheel, if you don't have any of those then this is probably a base, which comes in black interior.
Agree on the foglights and rear wiper. Cruise control was standard on the base car.
08-19-19, 09:22 AM
