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Old Jun 26, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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It seems to me that FD values have gone up since this thread was started 3 1/2 months ago. I think Fritz opened this thread to boost the values of the cars he was selling. He's a marketing genius!!!
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Old Jun 26, 2017 | 10:15 AM
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A small sample of a few collectible cars:
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by adam c
It seems to me that FD values have gone up since this thread was started 3 1/2 months ago. I think Fritz opened this thread to boost the values of the cars he was selling. He's a marketing genius!!!
It's about time! these cars are so underappreciated!
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 02:15 PM
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Yes, Thanks Fritz.


There has been a steady build-up on JDM coverage in mainstream collector car magazines. Also rising prices for NSX, Supras and GTR can't but help.
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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 11:04 PM
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Oh wow, that's in my city. What a small world. It has twice as many miles as my 94
There have been some GEMS in Livingston County. There was a silver one in Pinckney a year or two ago with like, 13K on it. Sold for around $32K IIRC.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Here's a real time capsule for only $29,000.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...7/1963299.html
I'm delivering a car near this one today. Left a message and haven't heard back. Looks like a nice one. If the dude wants to do business I'll likely be returning with another car LOL.

Originally Posted by adam c
It seems to me that FD values have gone up since this thread was started 3 1/2 months ago. I think Fritz opened this thread to boost the values of the cars he was selling. He's a marketing genius!!!
LOL

Originally Posted by TomSmy
It's about time! these cars are so underappreciated!
YES!!!!

BTW I bought the VR R2 w/24k miles in PA . It's extremely nice! I also bought several engines including a 3 rotor along with lots of OEM parts etc... from the same owner. Cool lady! We worked the deal from 6pm to 12am.......she's a tough negotiator LOL.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 06:34 PM
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I'm tempted to sell my FD after I finish the break in seeing how prices have been going up
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
BTW I bought the VR R2 w/24k miles in PA . It's extremely nice! I also bought several engines including a 3 rotor along with lots of OEM parts etc... from the same owner. Cool lady! We worked the deal from 6pm to 12am.......she's a tough negotiator LOL.
A little old lady had a 20b lying around? Must be a good story.
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Old Jun 30, 2017 | 06:03 PM
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A little old lady had a 20b lying around? Must be a good story.
Her husband died. He collected FD's. He had 14 FD's. Lifts to store them. Engines. Tons of parts. I talked with her a bunch. She is a nice lady. I bought my 1993 CYM R1 with 33k miles from her. Great lady.
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Old Jul 2, 2017 | 10:56 AM
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https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...7/1963299.html

I did buy this one so anyone looking for a 94 (glass sunroof) VR touring this will be really hard to beat

This might be the cleanest overall FD I've purchased and it's BONE stock. Nothing has been touched. Either put this one away as an investment or let the modding begin and have the time of your life
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Old Jul 2, 2017 | 01:52 PM
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Any idea how insurance companies values the FD?

How to value your FD-35ocracl.jpg

How to value your FD-izf4sibl.jpg

Wife rear ended someone.

Will be interesting to see how much they think the car is worth.

80k miles, single turbo v mount setup with Ohlins.
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Old Jul 2, 2017 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Kommavongsa
Any idea how insurance companies values the FD?





Wife rear ended someone.

Will be interesting to see how much they think the car is worth.

80k miles, single turbo v mount setup with Ohlins.
My advice/hope for people on this site is that they get an agreed value policy or an agreed upon appraisal with their insurance companies. Best of luck!
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Old Jul 2, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Kommavongsa
Any idea how insurance companies values the FD?

https://i.imgur.com/35OcrACl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/izf4sIbl.jpg

Wife rear ended someone.

Will be interesting to see how much they think the car is worth.

80k miles, single turbo v mount setup with Ohlins.
^^That ******* sucks.....


Contact adam c he is an insurance agent so he is very familiar with this process.

But from my experience they will try and lowball you with a Kelley blue book value (unless you have an agreed on value policy). However, know that you are entittled to fair market price of your vehicle. What that means is that they should provide with enough money for you to go out and purchase an FD with similar trim, milage, and condition. Note that it doesn't mean mods unless you insured them with your policy.

With that said here are some key points:
1) Jump on this and don't wait for the insurance company
2) Research for sale ads to find out what FD's in similar condition go for these days. Preferably in your area (I know it's a rare car and it's highly unlikely but try anyway). Save the for sale ads
3) Get a clear idea of how much a replacement will cost so when your insurance company gives you a monetary value, you know if you should take it or not
4) If you don't like the offer they give you utter these words: "I am entitled to fair market price of my vehicle. I will submit current for sale ads so you can appraise my car accordingly". And submit the ads that you saved.
5) The ads that you submit should be pretty similar so they can see a trend. In other words, don't submit 4 ads in the $20K range and 1 in the 10K range. Because that 10K one will lower their offer to you.
5) Based on the prices that you have submitted and if your insurance company is not pathetic, you should come to a quick resolution.


good luck

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Old Jul 2, 2017 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Montego
^^That ******* sucks.....


Contact adam c he is an insurance agent so he is very familiar with this process.

But from my experience they will try and lowball you with a Kelley blue book value (unless you have an agreed on value policy). However, know that you are entittled to fair market price of your vehicle. What that means is that they should provide with enough money for you to go out and purchase an FD with similar trim, milage, and condition. Note that it doesn't mean mods unless you insured them with your policy.

With that said here are some key points:
1) Jump on this and don't wait for the insurance company
2) Research for sale ads to find out what FD's in similar condition go for these days. Preferably in your area (I know it's a rare car and it's highly unlikely but try anyway). Save the for sale ads
3) Get a clear idea of how much a replacement will cost so when your insurance company gives you a monetary value, you know if you should take it or not
4) If you don't like the offer they give you utter these words: "I am entitled to fair market price of my vehicle. I will submit current for sale ads so you can appraise my car accordingly". And submit the ads that you saved.
5) The ads that you submit should be pretty similar so they can see a trend. In other words, don't submit 4 ads in the $20K range and 1 in the 10K range. Because that 10K one will lower their offer to you.
5) Based on the prices that you have submitted and if your insurance company is not pathetic, you should come to a quick resolution.


good luck
But...but...all insurance companies are pathetic lol
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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Littleguy
My advice/hope for people on this site is that they get an agreed value policy or an agreed upon appraisal with their insurance companies. Best of luck!
Thanks, will do this with my other vehicles.

Originally Posted by Montego
^^That ******* sucks.....


Contact adam c he is an insurance agent so he is very familiar with this process.

But from my experience they will try and lowball you with a Kelley blue book value (unless you have an agreed on value policy). However, know that you are entittled to fair market price of your vehicle. What that means is that they should provide with enough money for you to go out and purchase an FD with similar trim, milage, and condition. Note that it doesn't mean mods unless you insured them with your policy.

With that said here are some key points:
1) Jump on this and don't wait for the insurance company
2) Research for sale ads to find out what FD's in similar condition go for these days. Preferably in your area (I know it's a rare car and it's highly unlikely but try anyway). Save the for sale ads
3) Get a clear idea of how much a replacement will cost so when your insurance company gives you a monetary value, you know if you should take it or not
4) If you don't like the offer they give you utter these words: "I am entitled to fair market price of my vehicle. I will submit current for sale ads so you can appraise my car accordingly". And submit the ads that you saved.
5) The ads that you submit should be pretty similar so they can see a trend. In other words, don't submit 4 ads in the $20K range and 1 in the 10K range. Because that 10K one will lower their offer to you.
5) Based on the prices that you have submitted and if your insurance company is not pathetic, you should come to a quick resolution.


good luck
thanks man, just got done talking to the adjuster and they will look for at least 3 other vehicles in similar conditions to determine value.

Adjuster is heading to look at the car in the next few mins so I'm hoping to hear back this afternoon.
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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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Hate to see this. Stuff happens.

Use some of Fritz's resale or purchase quotes! I'm sure there are plenty of examples of guys on here with similar recent purchases/builds. I don't know that the "build" parts matter as much if you can get the value less the miles. So if you could get the value of Fritz's Hemming's 94' purchase at say $29K with 17K miles maybe the 80K miles would deduct $3-4K?? Find as many of these "Museum" cars and point out the collector aspect to your agent. Build your case.
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Old Jul 16, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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Looks like someone changed their mind.

34K-Mile 1993 Mazda RX-7 | Bring a Trailer

Now on autotrader for 34k. Good luck I'll sell my VR R2 for 35k with 10k less miles and it's twice as nice

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=RX7

Someone is going to take a big loss unless they keep that thing in bubble wrap for another 5 years
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Old Jul 16, 2017 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fd3sY8S
Hate to see this. Stuff happens.

Use some of Fritz's resale or purchase quotes! I'm sure there are plenty of examples of guys on here with similar recent purchases/builds. I don't know that the "build" parts matter as much if you can get the value less the miles. So if you could get the value of Fritz's Hemming's 94' purchase at say $29K with 17K miles maybe the 80K miles would deduct $3-4K?? Find as many of these "Museum" cars and point out the collector aspect to your agent. Build your case.

All things being equal I'd say an FD with 80k miles deducts at least 10 compared to one with under 20k miles

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Old Jul 16, 2017 | 10:41 PM
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I wonder what a five year supply of bubble wrap costs these days?
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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I wonder what a five year supply of bubble wrap costs these days?
Too much that's for sure. Overall I'd say there's plenty of conclusive evidence to determine that cars are not good investments.

PS There's also a chance that the BAT vr r1 sale didn't go through and now the seller is running it through a dealer.
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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Priced to sell, or mods holding the value back?


On another note: I've heard a number of rhd have surfaced recently on the Canadian sites such as Kijiji. Prices about C$11,000, I've heard.

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Originally Posted by Redbul
Priced to sell, or mods holding the value back?


On another note: I've heard a number of rhd have surfaced recently on the Canadian sites such as Kijiji. Prices about C$11,000, I've heard.
I think RHDs will continue to pour into Canada and the States... however, I doubt it'll have a big impact on the (LHD) market.

300ZXs have been pouring in for a while since they had a 1988/1989 production date - and RHD examples still track about 50% lower than their LHD counterparts. LHD will always be considered a "first option" for the foreseeable future. However, decades on collectors might just settle for "the best" one they can find... just look at the Italian and German markets.
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Originally Posted by Redbul
Priced to sell, or mods holding the value back?


On another note: I've heard a number of rhd have surfaced recently on the Canadian sites such as Kijiji. Prices about C$11,000, I've heard.
Those are all trashed, banged up, been in accidents, or have blown engines.

One not far away from me is listed for $11k CAD. The previous owner blew the engine, didn't want to do a proper rebuild, got it running and sold the car. Now the current owner has the car up for sale for $11k ($3k more than he paid) with a blown engine that will barely run. I actually emailed him about the car and he said "oh yeah man. The engine is hard to start when cold but that's because I'm running THICK OIL. Every rotary expert and every forum will tell you that these engines are hard to start with thick oil. It has 20w50 in it, man. That's thick."
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Originally Posted by Redbul
Priced to sell, or mods holding the value back?


On another note: I've heard a number of rhd have surfaced recently on the Canadian sites such as Kijiji. Prices about C$11,000, I've heard.


Yes it it true, look at Kijiji and AutoTrader and you will find lots of RHD FD's under $15k.....as well as some people on crack who think their car is worth $50k just because its LHD.....

........regardless of what side the wheel is on I believe that the Titanium Grey Spirit R Type A must be used as the benchmark for the highest value FD and I have not seen one sell at auction for $50k yet.....


The issue; as we all know after reading these ads, is the way those RHD cars have been treated. Usually owned by young people who drive them hard but don't do the maintenance. Poor winter storage conditions, shoddy rebuilds, cheap "go faster/be louder" Ebay parts.....it's a real minefield and does nothing to help the perception of RHD vehicles and unfortunately further damages the reputation of rotary engines.


I mean seriously when an ad for a FD (or any car for that matter) starts with this:

"No rush to sell! Recently purchased and just lost my license".

It does not instill much confidence.....





However there are some real RHD gems out there, several turned up for 7's day at ForceFed!

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Rather than hi-jack this thread, here's the thread for LHD/RHD pricing.


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