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Old 12-16-19, 11:00 AM
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Ah, yes. The Purple Box.
Old 12-16-19, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Molotovman
The PFS PMC as a highlighted mod to that car made me giggle.
The highest mileage factory REW I ever confirmed was 133k miles and it ran that purple box for around 100k of those miles. The ecu wasnt the issue, it was the built in boost controller and owners turning it up to the top setting. That setting was for c16 only. It did feel fun until BOOM! The main 3 issues with this car have always been the factory AST, factory FPD and the owners.
Old 12-17-19, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz Flynn
I don't understand any of the classic car markets....
Mazda has had success with the Miata restoration program, and are starting into the "other cars", presumably the FD/SA22C (expect a list mid-2020)

if i may ask, given that the factory restored 91-93 Miata is $43k, how much would the FD cost? and what does that do to value of the rest of them?


Old 12-17-19, 04:00 PM
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$55-65k? Just a guess based on model stratification.

edit: Did that super cherry car pull $70k? Seems like a showroom fresh resto could get close to that.

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Old 12-19-19, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Molotovman
The PFS PMC as a highlighted mod to that car made me giggle.

well at least it has an aircraft quality boost gauge!
Old 12-22-19, 12:41 PM
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I'm interested in this low mile R1 that was recently posted. To my experts - is this over spray from potential paintwork
or is this just undercoating that has worn off exposing the original paint ?


Old 12-23-19, 06:07 AM
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That looks like road grime/dirt.
Old 12-23-19, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by IMAGINETHAT
I'm interested in this low mile R1 that was recently posted. To my experts - is this over spray from potential paintwork
or is this just undercoating that has worn off exposing the original paint ?
It's impossible to be certain from just that picture - could be one of the two possibilities you mentioned or just road grime as the other guy mentioned. More close up, well lit pictures might help, but you would really need to physically inspect it to be sure. Grime would wipe off pretty easily with a wet rag, and either of the other conditions would become obvious on inspection too.
Old 12-26-19, 01:05 PM
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Tough time of year for Bring a Trailer, but this one just popped up:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1993-mazda-rx-7-91/
Old 12-26-19, 01:28 PM
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I love silver/red, and the mechanical/reliability mods he's done, but something seems off about that one. Shows more like 50k+ miles. Maybe its just because it's dirty. And what the heck is under the floor mat? Either the floor mat disintegrated prematurely or he used it to transport nose candy at some point.... He must not own a vacuum cleaner. Still like the car though.
Old 12-26-19, 02:40 PM
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Are the prices up all over the board or just on mint ones?
Say a "not trashed" mostly stock twin with a decent black interior, how much would that be expected to go for?
(It needs to start and run for registration)
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Prices are generally up across the board, but the mid-high market it seeing the biggest swing. The cost of a quality refurbishment, in part, drives the price gap between a #1 and #3 car. #1's are harder to find, and #3's are more expensive to restore. Just my $0.02. And, when @Fritz Flynn talks about the sunken cost in a "good" car with higher miles, which needs a lot of servicing, he ain't lying.

Anyways, a good car with no overt issues ought to bring at least $20k these days, maybe more. Hard to say without seeing the specific example.

edit: That silver car on BAT might be a good buy, if you can flip all those nice parts and take it back to bone stock.

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Old 12-27-19, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Narfle
Prices are generally up across the board, but the mid-high market it seeing the biggest swing. The cost of a quality refurbishment, in part, drives the price gap between a #1 and #3 car. #1's are harder to find, and #3's are more expensive to restore. Just my $0.02. And, when @Fritz Flynn talks about the sunken cost in a "good" car with higher miles, which needs a lot of servicing, he ain't lying.

Anyways, a good car with no overt issues ought to bring at least $20k these days, maybe more. Hard to say without seeing the specific example.

edit: That silver car on BAT might be a good buy, if you can flip all those nice parts and take it back to bone stock.
Yep more than ever smart money buys a well kept low mileage bone stock car if your intention is to keep it long term.

If you want a SSM/red FD this is likely a very good choice. I suspect it will sell for under 40k but this market is crazy so who knows.




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Originally Posted by IMAGINETHAT
I'm interested in this low mile R1 that was recently posted. To my experts - is this over spray from potential paintwork
or is this just undercoating that has worn off exposing the original paint ?
93-94 had the pinch weld seam painted black, the 1995-2003 cars are body color.

just to dot the i, the car was painted body color, and then the pinch weld gets painted on a 93-94, the floor will be body color
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Old 12-28-19, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
93-94 had the pinch weld seam painted black, the 1995-2003 cars are body color.

just to dot the i, the car was painted body color, and then the pinch weld gets painted on a 93-94, the floor will be body color
Can definitely vouch for this. That's how mine is for both the floor and pinch weld seam ('93 original paint).
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Old 12-31-19, 08:43 PM
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Silver/red on BAT sold for $30,250
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Originally Posted by AE_Racer
Silver/red on BAT sold for $30,250
​​​​​​​That was a weird one.
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Old 12-31-19, 11:17 PM
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So cheap, return it to stock and flip it in a few months for a nice gain.
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I would have guessed $42-45k if it had stock wheels. Great buy for whoever got it.
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Originally Posted by djseven
I would have guessed $42-45k if it had stock wheels. Great buy for whoever got it.
I agree.

Low mileage, rare ssm/red with some nice mods.

Great buy unless the current market is softening but I think that's doubtful given the current supply. Demand however is ever changing and hard to predict?




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Old 01-02-20, 12:32 PM
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Demand is hard to predict for sure, but its hard to see a negative turn or even a softening for nicer FD's. The economy is showing historic highs in terms of family take home pay, stock market earnings, and employment. Combined with record consumer confidence this all suggests that people are more able to buy than before. I think you have been right that prices will continue to increase for nicer cars.
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I think the mods, wheels, non-current registration, and lack of demonstrated mechanical pedigree were what kept it low. Auctions are hard on a car with a sketch rep. Apathetic seller (who doesn't drive/register their working FD in 10+ years?) let the car down. Didn't seem to care.
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Originally Posted by gmonsen
Demand is hard to predict for sure, but its hard to see a negative turn or even a softening for nicer FD's. The economy is showing historic highs in terms of family take home pay, stock market earnings, and employment. Combined with record consumer confidence this all suggests that people are more able to buy than before. I think you have been right that prices will continue to increase for nicer cars.

There is always more to the story..... I need this economic run to continue for 5-6 more years to truly be set with the company I purchased earlier this year. However, there are several signs showing some bubbles are out there. Luckily the housing market regulations, as much as this administration disliked them, has stopped that bubble this time. I hope others continue to believe in this economic bliss and ignore the fact we have doubled our national debt in a decade with

no end in sight.

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The previous administration was no better so don’t think I’m taking sides. I’ve benefited greatly from both administrations personally and in my career. I just think we are headed down a road similar to the early 2000s.
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Yeah the auto loan market and consumer behavior is crazy. 8 year auto loans haha, and the ability to roll the debt still owed on a trade in into the new loan.

Used to be a trade in helped cover a down payment, not add more debt to something someone already can't afford.
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