böst

I've heard lots of people recommending the TD04(b fully built). If that's the better turbo for good horespower, then why do most turbo upgrade kits for turboII's come with the TD06? Maybe I've got my turbo's mixed up here. Someone please tell me which turbo for a turboII, 89, would be neccesary to produce some healthy power?

RETed

"TD04"?&nbsp That's a Mitsubishi turbo that's TOO SMALL for ANY 13B engine.&nbsp You're probrably thinking about a "T04" which is a Garrett design.&nbsp The Mistubishi "TD-06" is about the same size as a Garrett T04, so that's why you see the GReddy catalogs list them for applications for the 13B.



-Ted

böst

You're right, "T04" is what I meant. So tell me, why do people recommend the T04 when everyone sells the TD06 in their upgrade kits?

RETed

The Mitsubishi TD06SH is what GReddy offers; I don't know of anyone else who does.

The reason everyone else recommends a Garrett T04 is that this can be installed very cheaply with the use of a $300 HKS cast turbo manifold.

It is also cheaper and easier to find Garrett rebuild parts in case you kill the Garrett turbo versus a Mitsubishi one.




-Ted

böst

Where can I pick up a t04 and an hks ex.manifold? Also, what's a ballpark figure on the cost of the t04?

Scott 89t2

probably around $750-1000 for turbo, 3-400 for wastegate, 3-400 for manifold, and a couple hundred for custom oil and water lines. plus you need new custom downpipe and new intake for the turbo. you are also going to need more fuel. a stand alone ecu would be recommanded with bigger injectors and fuel pump, so there's another $2000. it's not a cheap task but it's good for over 400hp.

RETed

ANY HKS authorized dealer can order you the HKS cast turbo manifold for the 13B.&nbsp Full list is $300, so it should be a little cheaper ($250-$275) when you drop the money.

As for the turbo, check around.&nbsp Check out http://www.turbochargers.com/ for some nice prices.&nbsp ANY of the "T04" family (including the TS04) will fit on the HKS manifold.

Now, that's the easy part.&nbsp You'll still need to custom make inlet and outlet adapters to fit your engine.&nbsp You also need to make some kind of adapter for the downpipe for the exhaust.&nbsp On top of everything else, you'll need to make custom oil lines (if going with a "dry" center section) which really needs to be made out of stainless steel AN stuff, which is going to cost you a couple hundred dollars!

It's not as easy as you think...you really should be upgrading to a front-mount intercooler, as this is some serious cash on top of everything else.





-Ted

Grimlock

and just put a to4 compressor on a gtx turbo. no manifold needed, no oil, water lines, blah blah. call your local trubo shop and see how much they will charge you. i've been quoted at about 500.00. according on how much fuel your running you can make up to 400 hp.

of course the best way would be to do the custom stuff but if you dont have the money, well you gotta go hybrid!!!

i plan on doing this when my motor decides to go to rotary heaven