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TII Hood on NA FC: Rice or Not?

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Old May 7, 2003 | 01:39 AM
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You "TII hood on n/a cars" crowd need to stop using the "lighter" excuse and get an aluminum n/a hood off a convertible- they came stock with them.
Old Jun 29, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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I can get a TII hood for $75 locally, I can't FIND an AL 'vert hood locally, and people usually want over $125 + shipping.

Is it worth the extra money NOT to be rice?
Old Jun 29, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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Rice So my TII is Rice? My 91' is an N/A and my TII is an 87'. They look almost identical. I dont see why it's rice if they came stock from mazda. You guys are crazy. So if you use the 89+ round lights your rice. If I use a S5 turbo in my S4 im rice. I dont think you even know what your talking about. And the hood is lighter than the n/a looks better. I want you to come here and tell me which of my 2 cars is the t2 and which is the n/a cause i have t2 stuff on the n/a and 89+ stuff on the 87. Ha 50 50 chance you got to guess right. What if i said you were a ricer becuase you in a n/a and its not as good as the T2. Stop crying. I think you want a t2. HAha or a hood. YOu cant have either one of mine.
Old Jun 29, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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if you ask me a t2 hood on an n/a is not rice its like buying an aftermarket body kit it looks better, i have custom rims on my fc is it rice no it makes it look better.(now if you put a sticker on your car that says t2 and your not than thats rice)my 2cents...
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Sorry to bust your bubble N/A guys, but a Turbo II hood on a N/A is ricecake, ricepudding, or whatever. I was on the freeway and I noticed this guy maybe two cars ahead of me had a white 89-91 GTU's or GXL, I have a 87 Turbo II, anyway I downshift to 4th and whistle up to him and low and behold this poser has a Turbo II hood on a GTU. I'm thinking "maybe he has a turbo kit or something" but when we race from a moving start of maybe 65mph it is apparent that he is N/A. Rice is trying to be something your not and he could not touch my turbo II, with that BNR stage 2 turbo.
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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I can't believe no is winning!?
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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because its not
Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Yo,

Originally posted by Mr. Eccentric
I can't believe no is winning!?

It isn't. Someone cooked the poll like the first night. Reset their cookies and voted "No" like 60 times.

Who would do such a punkish thing?

Prolly someone who would try and fool people into thinking they have a TII...when they don't.

Ricers!!

*snicker*

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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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Sorry to bust your bubble N/A guys, but a Turbo II hood on a N/A is ricecake, ricepudding, or whatever.
Your a fool. Those hoods came stock from mazda. Now if he had z3 fenders and some APC wing from kragen. You guys think everything is rice. There's no arguing with a fool. Let me get this straight, if they try to upgrade, but are still not as fast as you, then they rice? SO those cars in the turbo magz that have kits and the upgraded bodies (not factory by the way, TII hoods are Factory) are rice. There pretty quick with there non stock bodies. I dont thin speed has anything to do with rice, I always thought was that the cars looked cheap,(they are usually slow but u never know) Damn hating on the 7's. Even if they use TII parts. Its cool, N/a guys dont use them on you slow *** N/A's cause there lighter and have better lines tham those heavy flat hoods that look old, and us turbo guys will agree. NO one use the hoods air doesnt flow in there, mazda engineers dont know what there doing, there stupid for mounting the IC there, subaru too, Idiots, all idiots, damn those engineers. Some of you guys should work for them. DAmn!! I have rage!! HAHA PLus rice is fun. They dont care. U think those ricers dont think what they have. There all cool guys. Im done. Thanx you for your time.
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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VIRuS- You are the fool the TII hood didn't come from the factory on an N/a. That is like saying I want to put the Vette's front end and rear tails on a Camaro. But according to your logic its not rice cause it came from the factory. Well so did that APC wing it cam from a factory just not Chevy's. The N/a aluminm hood should be lighter than the TII one anyways so it is a down grade for some people.


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Old Jul 1, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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just forget about both hoods and get a carbon fiber hood lol
Old Jul 1, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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I never said that they came on the N/A's stock. Go reread or maybe you cant read. I said they came from mazda.

I dont see how getting vette parts and putting them on a camero is the same. These are both Rx-7's, same generation, usually the same year (unless you have a sweer 91' like me which is still the same.) How is getting the hood from one(which came from mazda's factory not apc stay with me now) the same as doing vette-camero, or civic, bwm swaps. How, tell me how thats the same? There is no camero the came from ITS OWN FACTORY with vette front and rear end tails. Did they, I think not. Your just all kinds of stupid. If you think it's rice then fine, but dont give me that worthless reason you gave me ( camero's and vettes) We are talking 7 on 7. Same generation.

And apc from the factory but not chevy. what the hell does that mean? what are you getting at? Mazda, the corporation, made those TII hoods. They are not after market, be it low end (apc) or high end. Mazda made them, do you understand. If you put it on your miata then maybe we can use you vette-camero analogy.

And last but not least, yes the vert hood is lighter, and thats because those cars were so damn heavy. If you have a vert and you get a TII hood you would be downgrading, but better looking(imo), but indeed a bit heavier. But you dont have a vert do you, I bet most of you dont. Like you said " some people" you not being one of them. So a TII hood is better because of its lighter weight, not that you going to see a diffrence in performance but whatever i guess you need all the help you can get. TII's are so rare that having that hood alone for that reason is worth it.(the reason is just having it , i know you don't understand so I'll make these notes for you) Around here anyway(cali) And yes my logic is it's not rice because it came from our own manufacturer not apc or chevy, but MAZDA. You have a mazda don't you. Your gonna need something better than that vette-camero apc crap. GO hit the showers, You don't understand a word I posted.
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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Yo,


So you have a Celica GTS...but put one of these on:



Because it "Looks Cool".

Guess what? Everyone is going to think it's an All Trac. Why? Because that hood /only came on the All Trac/.

Same with the TII hood. If you put it on, like it or not, it will fool people into thinking you have a TII. Because that hood /only came on the TII/.

You're pretending to be something you're not.

Rice!

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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by RarestRX

Same with the TII hood. If you put it on, like it or not, it will fool people into thinking you have a TII. Because that hood /only came on the TII/.
people must be pretty stupid then.. the aluminum tII hood provides functionality.

i wouldnt put it on because it "looks cool". i would put it on because its lighter. so, NOT rice.
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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Yo,

Originally posted by Black13B
people must be pretty stupid then.. the aluminum tII hood provides functionality.

i wouldnt put it on because it "looks cool". i would put it on because its lighter. so, NOT rice.
Yeah, you're right...I'm an idiot for thinking this:



Was a TII. It only has the key thing that seperates TII's visually from any other FC: the hood. Gee, why would I think it was a TII? Again, I'm "stupid" for thinking that.

And yes, the TII hood provides functionality: it's an intake for a TMIC. What, you don't have a TMIC? Then why would you want a hood scoop for one?

I've been told the NA aluminum hood is /lighter/ than the TII hood, so that argument is moot.

Most people that have responded to this thread that actually /have/ a TII hood on their NA have said they've done it for looks, not for dubious functionality.

I'm continually amazed that people don't "get" that a TII hood on a non-TII is "Rice". The concept is so simple, so obvious that if you can't comprehend the TII hood thing, any other "Rice" will elude you as well.

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Old Jul 4, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by RarestRX
Yeah, you're right...I'm an idiot for thinking this Was a TII. It only has the key thing that seperates TII's visually from any other FC: the hood. Gee, why would I think it was a TII? Again, I'm "stupid" for thinking that.
ok point made, but i thought tIIs had 'aero' mirrors as well?

And yes, the TII hood provides functionality: it's an intake for a TMIC. What, you don't have a TMIC? Then why would you want a hood scoop for one?


you cant honestly say that a big fat hole in the middle of the hood provides NO functionality even without a TMIC. air would get circulated a bit better.. not worth the money of the hood, but still.. its better..

I've been told the NA aluminum hood is /lighter/ than the TII hood, so that argument is moot.


let me know where i can get an aluminum NA hood in canada, and thats what ill be out for. otherwise, im considering getting an aluminum tII hood. the main reason (and yes i AM agreeing with you) is because i really dont want to trick anyone into thinking im actually driving a tII.


Most people that have responded to this thread that actually /have/ a TII hood on their NA have said they've done it for looks, not for dubious functionality.
great. i dont give a **** about why OTHER people did it, facts are facts. it provides obvious functionality.


I'm continually amazed that people don't "get" that a TII hood on a non-TII is "Rice". The concept is so simple, so obvious that if you can't comprehend the TII hood thing, any other "Rice" will elude you as well.

Kevin
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and you will continue to be amazed, because noone accepts (or as you put it 'gets') your opinion. IMO, rice is items that are NOT functional. if a tII hood makes a difference, then i may do it.
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Black13B

let me know where i can get an aluminum NA hood in canada, and thats what ill be out for. otherwise, im considering getting an aluminum tII hood. the main reason (and yes i AM agreeing with you) is because i really dont want to trick anyone into thinking im actually driving a tII.
seriously. let me know. i wanst trying to be arrogant or anything on that one.

as far as i know, the aluminum NA hood was on GTU or GTUs only.

those models are unavailable in canada.

where can i get one? if i cant get one (for a good price) then i may just get a turbo hood.. maybe.. still considering..
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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Your crazy man! You have like rage against hoods or something! Whats your deal anyway. If people think it looks better then let them do it. Why cant they just because you dont like, just cause your like a hood freak. You seem very persistent in convincing the whole world that unless the hood has a function, its rice. You should be a little more open minded. Hows this for function, It looks better than that flat ***, 100lbs solid steel, old looking thing on you car you call a hood. What is that a Porsh hood. I seen those, your a poser man. J/k dont yell at me ok. I think we should all give up, call it "rice" (whatever that is, i thought it was food but ok...)and call it a day.
Old Jul 4, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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Damn ricer!!



Old Jul 4, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Ok Try this one!https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=195489
Old Jul 5, 2003 | 02:36 AM
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Yo,

The reason I'm so adamant about trying to convince NA people to /not/ put TII hoods on their cars is because I have a lot of pride in being NA...Normally Aspirated.

Are people who put TII hoods on their FC's ashamed that they're NA? Embarassed? Do they secretly yearn for a TII? Who knows? It's just something that bugs me since I have pride in my ride and the fact that I enjoy the spirit of the NA rotary engine.

The other main reason is that I think it's totally weak to bite the TII's style and not have the ***** to back it up on the street. The TII hood is a badge of honor for all the guys that have put blood, sweat and tears into their turbo-charged rotaries. Keeping them alive at high boost levels, rebuilding motors when they can't, and making more and more power.

I said it before, and I'll say it again: they are the tip of the FC sword on the street. I respect them for that...they do the things I can't do in my NA FC: take on V-8's, WRX's, Turbo Supras, etc. I feel it's disrespectful to put a TII hood on your NA, then be killed by the above cars...and have those drivers think they've killed a TII. It's not right.

Phew! I take this **** way too seriously...but I'm a gearhead...sue me.

Kevin
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Old Jul 5, 2003 | 04:19 AM
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why not make your car look better? Go for the tII hood! And anyone thinking I was trying to be something I'm not can just look ever at my SE decal
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Thats just their own ignorance if they think they beat a tII...I bet most dont even know that Turbo RX-7s have hood scoopes/dont have hood scoopes...I mean ****... I see Civic, Integra, and Accord Type R's like every day, even a Monte Carlo type R lolol......but still.. I KNOW that they are not type R cars so who cars. Same for silvia nissan...i know i havnt raced a real one, but I raced one with the decal. I dont run around saying I beat a Silvia because I know better.



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