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Old Nov 26, 2025 | 08:51 PM
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S4 water pump pulley misalignment

Hello everyone. I have an s4 water pump pulley that will not line up with the other pulleys. It will break or burn up in minutes. Any ideas? Thanks
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Old Nov 27, 2025 | 08:35 AM
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Is there a washer to put on before the pulley? I placed a washer and it lined up perfectly
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Old Nov 27, 2025 | 09:27 AM
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No washer from factory. Is one of the bolts bottoming out against the hub?
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Old Nov 27, 2025 | 11:08 AM
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A photo would helpful. Not sure how much misalignment you have, but did you reinstall the shims with new pump? https://mazdatrix.com/product/water-...im-all-rotory/ These shims are very thin, so they probably wouldn't lead to much misalignment.
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Old Nov 29, 2025 | 08:42 AM
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What shims are supposed to be behind the water pump? I don’t see any against the the motor?


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Old Nov 29, 2025 | 08:47 AM
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Old Nov 29, 2025 | 08:51 AM
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Would this shim resolve my issue?
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Old Dec 1, 2025 | 04:22 PM
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You wrote: "What shims are supposed to be behind the water pump? I don’t see any against the the motor?"
Refer to this link:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...-pump-1080002/
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Old Dec 2, 2025 | 07:10 AM
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Are there any shims behind the pulley , like the one i posted?
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Old Dec 2, 2025 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot_Dog
A photo would helpful. Not sure how much misalignment you have, but did you reinstall the shims with new pump? https://mazdatrix.com/product/water-...im-all-rotory/ These shims are very thin, so they probably wouldn't lead to much misalignment.
Bear with me, but where do these shims go? I read the mazdatrix description it states "the twos tuds that do not have a gasket" ... is the "gasket" in that context, in reference to the water pump gasket?
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Old Dec 2, 2025 | 11:45 AM
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Yes - It is referring the the water pump gasket. The shims in question are not for the pulley, but for the water pump itself. They are just extremely thin washers that take up the same space as the gasket so the water pump isn't put on crooked. These go on the bolts that do not have the gasket going over them.
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Old Dec 2, 2025 | 02:18 PM
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Ah that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the clarification.
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 09:50 AM
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Any suggestions on a spacer for the pulley?
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 10:01 AM
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On the pre 89 cars there are two shims that are needed before you bolt the waterpump into place. The 89-91 cars have the steps built into the front side housing and are not required. Good luck

https://mazdatrix.com/product/water-...im-all-rotory/
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowgtu
Any suggestions on a spacer for the pulley?
A spacer for the pulley won't resolve the issue. You need to get the two shims that mazda engineered to be installed behind the waterpump itself.
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 11:17 AM
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How can I identify the year front housing I have?I know the water pump is an s4 but not sure of the rest of the engine. Thanks
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 04:32 PM
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The 89-91 Front side housing will have the "steps" built in where the water pump mounts.
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 05:36 PM
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Is the step visible with the pump on?
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 05:38 PM
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The spacers/shims everyone else is talking about go behind the water pump housing, not the pump itself. If they're missing the pump housing can crack.
Any pulley misalignment they cause is more likely to make it crooked because they're offset.
You may need a shim behind the pulley, but have to make sure the center bore and bolt hole spacing is correct.


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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by j_tso
The spacers/shims everyone else is talking about go behind the water pump housing, not the pump itself. If they're missing the pump housing can crack.
Any pulley misalignment they cause is more likely to make it crooked because they're offset.
You may need a shim behind the pulley, but have to make sure the center bore and bolt hole spacing is correct.


Sorry maybe its wording, you mean the shims go behind the water pump but on the face of the housing? Or it goes behind the water pump housing on the face of the front cover?
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 07:08 PM
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Are these the steps?
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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by maaaaackle
Sorry maybe its wording, you mean the shims go behind the water pump but on the face of the housing? Or it goes behind the water pump housing on the face of the front cover?
They go between the water pump housing and front iron/side housing.


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Old Dec 6, 2025 | 11:55 PM
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Gotcha. I think i got it figured out. I took a photo for posterity's sake - circled in yellow below.

This is on my 87' NA. The painters tape is covering that gasket where the waterpump/thermostat assembly would sit up against.


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Old Dec 7, 2025 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KansasCityREPU
Yes - It is referring the the water pump gasket. The shims in question are not for the pulley, but for the water pump itself. They are just extremely thin washers that take up the same space as the gasket so the water pump isn't put on crooked. These go on the bolts that do not have the gasket going over them.
Also this wording might be confusing, the shims go on the front iron like @j_tso mentioned and the gasket referenced in the quote is the gasket on the front iron that mates between the front iron and the tstat/water pump housing
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Old Dec 7, 2025 | 08:13 AM
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Thanks. My question now is, how to identify which year front cover, I have. If I could see the 89+ front to see the steps vs no step. Thanks again
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