How am I out of line? I am just replying what he claimed. He said, that material is cheap and the cost is on the mold and labor. So if he wants it done in S glass and Epoxy resin, send me the material and I will have it done at the same price which is mostly labor and contribution to the cost of the mold.

The bottomline is if he is as good as he claimed, why doesn't he just import a RE-Amemiya bumper himself and make a bunch of them and offer you guys the one made with S glass epoxy and resin with Hella HID for $500-600. Did he make the claim? Yes, he did. Can he follow through, trust me, he can't.

So who is out of line? Who is coming here talking bull **** that totally made no sense?

Chuck Huang

 

I just have one question for you. If you are so good as you claimed, why do you want to rely on other people or companies to make products for your FC? Why can't you make some yourself or sell some to your fellow FC owners?? I don't even have a FC myself but I know there is pretty much nothing for the FC in the US market so I am trying to get something new done for the FC people. Instead of talking bull **** here, why can't you get up your *** and make some quality parts like you said you could? This really puzzles me.

Is it going to be a replica or real thing? I already said in 2 posts that I am waiting for RE-Amemiya's answer. I don't want to replicate the bumper if I don't have to.

Chuck Huang

 

There are a lot of cheap and used stuff you can buy from the Japanese yahoo website. Sometimes they are not wiling to ship to oversea people but sometimes they will. It's a good source. If you find something on there that you like, you can try to get it. I totally encourage you to do that.

I want to make the RE-Amemiya FC bumper simply because when I was selling the GTC style bumper, a lot of people asked me on this one. It's just based on that.

I am not going to generalize all the FC owners to be cheap and have little money to spend. It's simply not true. Some FC owners already bought the original and I already know a couple of people with it. If the bumper you see is already $100, what's the point of making a copy of it or buy the copy one? You should just buy the original if it's already that cheap, right?

Chuck Huang

 

People complain too much. If you dont like it, dont buy it. I can honestly say that I would probably buy the RE product if they were located in California, and had a competetive price. I support new products for our cars, and I for one will be purchasing this product. I appreciate what RE has done for us and our cars, however in that way we should be respecting Chuck. Anyways, you make it, I'll buy it.

 

Chuck, kudos to you for trying to help out us FC owners...I'd buy your kit if 1) I had money 2) Iwas a fan of headlight conversion kits for cars that came with pop-ups.

You seem to have handled this situation in an adult-like manner, and are seemingly capable of putting forth what you claim. As for those who seem to think it's completely wrong to buy a knock-off...learn what you're talking about. Most of these kits are extremely overpriced in the first place if you ask me. I'll save money where I can. My car for now sits with no mods, a slash in the top, broken vent, a fog light knocked out of place and paint missing. Why? Because I do not have the money to fix these probs, seeing as I still owe the bank 3700 on the loan that for now sits over my car. As has been stated, most of us FC owners do not have money...I pay for all of my bills, my food, and that's about all the money I have. TY very much for trying to keep us from being able to at least make our FC's look like we want them to.

ZRO
Mike Hoffman

P.S. If you're so rich that you can afford to buy whatever kit you want, then please, share the frickin wealth.

 

look, i really dont give a **** about what problems there may be with this kit. i dont care how you get them whether you buy em or make em. i am just glad that someone is going to step up and deliver these bastards at a not so so rape me in the *** price. ill be looking to get one by this summer, i hope that everything can be worked out by then. thank you chuck for taking your personal time to help us all!

 

look, i really dont give a **** about what problems there may be with this kit. i dont care how you get them whether you buy em or make em. i am just glad that someone is going to step up and deliver these bastards at a not so so rape me in the *** price. ill be looking to get one by this summer, i hope that everything can be worked out by then. thank you chuck for taking your personal time to help us all!

 

i just thought it will make it easy access not everyone can get things shiped from japan. its a pain to have to ship the parts. plus i drive. i break stuff. and would liek easy replacements. but i guess i'll have to learn how to make my own cheap replicas. just a thought for you to make money. yes they are already cheap but why isn't everyone sporting them? because they can't get them. why doesn't anyone know about them. because they aren't in every american magazine..

 

Chuck, in response to your question as to WHY I don't make this stuff ("get off my lazy ***", I believe is what you said..); I'm in the midst of development of a front &rear top mount camber caster kit for the rx7, we are developing our own inhouse sturt/shock system with in car bias controls, I'm working on the development of 4 turbo systems for the zetec line of cars and light trucks I'm working on a twin turbo kit for the duratec 2.5 and the 3.0L of the Taurus and mazda 6. I do all my own anodizing, sand blasting and small scale powder coating.. We are in the midst of 'Salon prepping', 3 FC's, one Mk III supra and a zx2 that's being race prepped for the Targa newfoundland. I don't ever Copy, if I'm going to make a part then I make it with my own aerodynamics and my own testing. This of course is all being handled by one mechanical/aeronautics engineer and one designer, builder, welder, fabricator and engineer.. me. So. please , go ahead and tell me to get off my lazy ***. how many 24+ hr days do you pull each week?

So, you go right ahead and build or supply whatever it is you plan to, I have bigger fish to fry.. oh and if a replica mould is going to cost you that much to make then I suggest you shop around for a different place to get it done. replica hoods moulds, when i use to do them came in at $400 Canadian , that' multi pull, long use, epoxy preped for post heat cure. The comments from me you were referring to was for ORIGINAL work, not copies on labour and mold costs..
Either way, as I've said , it's your business not mine, however if i see problems, as a fellow FC owner and someone who works with this stuff ,I feel it is my responsability to point things out that aren't kosher or don't make sense..
Like the fact your willing to use a low sag point resin around hot charge air pipe and hot spots from the lights.. at least use Vinylester.. er., do you plan to import these now or make em BTW ? this is not very clear..

 

.....wow, I need a nap after that

 

Look, Whatever happens, it will be good for us FC owners. Authentic or copy...it does'nt really matter. Chuck has done many great things for the Rx7 community and has very good quality products. He really needs a good pat on the back for doing this, I love that kit and am planning on getting it no matter what. Its amazing he puts up with all this crap from everyone. With all the flaming, lawsuits, and crap I'm amazed their are Rx7 shops still out there. Goodluck Chuck, your doing a great job!

 

Everytime you say something you just slap yourself in the face. I already said I only have 2 hands and 24 hours a day so I am not making those bumpers myself and I pay people to make those for me. And now you are telling me the same thing as your own situation.

This is the 3rd or 4th time that I am saying this, at this time, I don't know if there is going to be a replica or I just end up selling the original one. I am waiting for RE Amemiya to get back to me. What's unclear about this?? The decision is simply not made yet.

You always say it only costs this much to make this and that. When you said you get the bumper made with Hella 90mm lights and Hella HID and Ballast for $500-600, I asked you many times here if you can follow through. What's your answer?? No answer. Just saying oh yeah, it only costs $400 canadian dollar to make a mold. Oh yeah, I have no time, I am too busy with other things. How about I will pay you $400 canadian right now to have you make a mold. Can you follow through? I am going to paypal you and post the picture of the paypal screen to show that I paid you right here. If you don't follow through, everyone will know you are just full of crap.

Stop telling me or other people that you can get this made for this price and people are paying too much. When you have it made and start selling at the price you are claiming, then you can talk all you want and no one will give you ****. Right now you just talk but talk is cheap.

About the resin and fiberglass, you still have no idea what I am using. Everything you say is just based on your assumption. I don't feel like telling you anything. Everytime I say something, you twist it around and it becomes something else.

I am done talking to you. Until you have some products for sale and you can follow through with your words, don't waste our time and the bandwidth.

BTW, what's your name? Are you one of those people who talk so loud on the internet but afraid to reveal who your are??

Chuck Huang

 

When I replied to your thread, I don't mean anything in the negative way. From the business point of view, if you can get the original one for $100, how much are you going to pay for the replica. Maybe $50? $50 is not enough to cover my cost so I can't do this simply because if I do, I will be losing money.

It's hard to get all those used parts from Japan and then sell them here. First of all, not every one of them is in good condition. Second, there are bad guys in Japan as well. They might take the money without sending andy products. I only deal with reputable companies in Japan and used car lots. Here are some photos of our container coming from Japan if you haven't seen it from the 3rd gen section.









You see we import cars, engines, bodykits, and rims from Japan. It's really hard to just buy stuff from the Japanese yahoo auction and sell those here. I always just deal with a few companies and get everything at once. Getting stuff from the Japanese internet is time consuming and too risky.

Chuck Huang

 

You are so full of **** and it makes me sick. You don't ever copy but you used to do replica mold for $400 Canadian? Is my English really that bad or something just doesn't sound right??

Chuck Huang

 

really ?? you getting violent there 'Chuck" ??

I think you miss the point I don't PAY anyone to make anything for me.. I do it myself, the odd time something will get subcontracted.. but not often.. All the above mentioned projects are in house. So no, different situation entirely.

Chuck you asked me ONCE to come up with a set of $500 HID's, one day ago..I said I could get Phillips, McCoullough and hella for $ 400- 500 Canadian, dependiong on what's in stock i can send you the quote tomorrow if you'd like me to REALLY prove this to you?? why not just call an Ontario retailer and ask though?? As for making the mould ? why would I want to get myslef into the hot water your in by making a mould of the RE-A part?? not too bright of you to ask me to do this.. however I can make just about any 3D part you have ready in cad format in a matter of days.. ( see it's easy when you build your own 16" x 8" CnC router table with a 12" draw. If you want I'll sell you one for $35,000 Cad. a steal considering it's only one of it's kind that can do steel not just aluminum.. Please try to remail somewhat civil goofing on the other person is all good and fine, but don't start acting like a buffoon.. " If you don't follow through, everyone will know you are just full of crap. "..
grade 4 was it ? yes I think that was the last time I laied out an insipid ultimatum like that.. " if you don't lick the frozen teatherball pole everyone will know your afraid.."

As I said before it's MY opinion, I go by what you say , ( and don't say ) BTW bitching at me for not answering you about the HID kit?? I think I've asked you quite a few times, over the last week I think.. to tell us/me whayt you plan to make the part out of and I've given valid and genuine concerns why i ask.. you still have yet to tell me/us what the matrix your using is ?? I believe this is an example of the pot ' you' calling the Kettle 'me' black...

you can find out all about me and my company at our website 'Chuck' if our that interested in who I am then call me and ask. Frankly your a little too freaky for my liking..

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"You are so full of **** and it makes me sick. You don't ever copy but you used to do replica mold for $400 Canadian? Is my English really that bad or something just doesn't sound right?? "

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a replica of an OEM hood for racing ? why yes.. of course.. I didn't mention that I modify it with a cowl for a drag car or that fact that you can't really by a NEW RANCHERO hood now a days.. You have any spare Ranchero hoods hanging around that I can modify to fit a 460 ?? Talk about twisting words, if you'd like a clarification on something I've said , just ask.. your becoming more of a petulent child every post..

like I said, your a little too freaky for me man.. calling me names and swearing at me now?? what's up with that?

 

WILL YOU TWO QUIT THIS SAUSAGE FEST ALREADY!
Although its hilarious

 

1. No one is getting violent here. Maybe you are because I pointed out how you are full of **** and you are pissed. Did I say anything about kicking your *** or anything like that? Nope. How am I violent??

2. The one who is acting like a elementary school bully now wants to turn things around and call me one. Very funny but it simply does not work. Since you are always disoriented and don't remember what you said, let me give you an exmaple to refresh your memory a little bit.

Bully (you): Do my math homework for me!

Me: Sure, but at least give me the material (book, paper, pencil and calculator) so I can work on it.

Bully (you): Screw you! You are unethical that you want me to provide you with the material. Now I am going to call you names and tell people how unreliable you are!

Me: uh.....

How about another one. I make intake box for the 3rd gen for $300 and then someone wants me to make in in Ti. Since the major cost of making a intake box is just labor of cutting, bending, and welding, I asked the guy to provide with his own Ti sheet and it will cost the same, $300. He calls me unethical and wants to call me names. uh.... that someone will be you.

3. I never said I am going to send you the RE-A bumper and have you make a mold. I already told you to import one yourself if you want to make it. You said you can make a mold for $400 and I simply said I will send you a part just to see if you can follow through. Did I say anything about sending you the RE-A bumper? Nope. Stop making assumptions on every post. I am tired of it although reading your post is kind of entertaining because I can always point out how you are full of **** on every single one and it's pretty fun for my late night entertainment.

4. Stop telling me you can make this and that. I am not interested. If you can make a space shuttle in your backyard, that's great. That has nothing to do with me. I am not interested in what you are capable of doing or making. I simply just don't buy it when you say you can have this and that done at the prices you claim and so far you have no proof. Maybe I should be like you telling people I am making a jet engine swap at my backyard and it will only cost $50 for the swap. It's the internet. Let's be creative!

5. You are the one that offer in public that you can have a bumper with Hella HID light kit for $500-600. I never asked you to make one. You made that offer in public. Go back to what you wrote and see it yourself. I simply asked you to follow through your claim but you can't. Instead of following through, you asked me to call the Canadian retailers? That has nothing to do what you claimed. The bumper is still not part of it. How about this, since it can be beneficial to all people. Direct us to the place that can offer the HID for $300-400 Canadian. I am not talking about just bulbs and ballasts, I am talking about the whole thing.

2 90mm Hella low beam
2 90mm Hella high beam
2 hella ballasts
2 philips HID bulbs.

Everything above for $400-500 Canadian which is like $266-333 US. Please do that. I can just sell the bumper and people can buy those from the Canadian retailer for that kind of price and save a lot of money. Maybe people in the US are simply paying too much. Please be our savior on automotive parts and direct us to the cheapest source.

6. About replica, I already said I am talking to RE-A to see if they will just sell the bumper so I don't have to make a replica of it. You said it yourself that you don't make replica and now you do. Modifying a stock hood is making a replica. So if I buy the RE-A bumper and simply make the mouth larger, it's not a replica anymore?? You can always say something afterward to cover your *** but it does not work for me. And remember how you were all excited about the replica whole thing at the very beginning?? You are excited to a point that I simply can't comprehend.

7. If you want me to stop, simply apologize to me that you are the one who was acting like a crazy maniac at the very beginning and I will not pick on you anymore. Are you man enough to apologize in public or you just want to twist the fact pretending you didn't do anything wrong??

Chuck Huang

 

Just wondering if it was possible to use this bumper but have flip up projections lights? I'm really into the flip up lights... BUt also a big fan of the projections style lights...? Is it possible?

 

1. "Everytime you say something you just slap yourself in the face.".. That's a violent remark. What you say about how ' full of **** I am' would matter if it came from someone that actually mattered, right now it just means your flustered and not able to argue or back up your statments.

2. Dude.. LOL check your own posts, you attempt to take out of context, redirect and in most cases omit information for your own use.. My orientation is fine your slathering like a fool is what's the problem.

"..what you said, let me give you an exmaple to refresh your memory a little bit. "..

When exactly did I say that little diatribe your climing I did ?? .. It's pretty funny that your calling me a 'Bully'? When your the one name calling and taunting .. How is my asking you valid and actual questions earlier on, that YOU chose NOT to answer/ ignore, but when I posed some thoughts on what it may be, the downfalls and costs, You went ballistic.. it's your own fault man, not mine, if your not going to answer then don't expect the respose you want. But this last line I think was your most concise point and very insightful about yourself ;
"Me: uh..... " .. knowing it is 1/2 the battle chuck.

2.5; Since the box is made of aluminum I'm going to assume , for $300.. the person sends you that Titanium material your still going to charge him $300 ?? so in reality, which is suspect with you chuck, you've charged this person for the Aluminum material even though he's not getting the aluminum?
" He calls me unethical and wants to call me names. uh.... that someone will be you.".. no chuck that would be anyone who has an IQ above 72 that would say that given the parameters of that last example.. What on earth makes you think it's going to be cool with a customer to charge materials/fabircation and markup .. when YOUR not supplying the materials ??

3. I've already said I have no interest. Unlike you I DO my own work, with my own hands.. I also don't exproperiate (steal) other people's designs & hard work (RE-A) and then do a direct copy of it to sell. If for no other reason than most of the time it's very easy to improve on and make it better, ( adding in different lights is hardly making the actual bumper better, you can do that with a real one..) anyone can that has one for that matter. I told you last post how I can do it , how fast I can do it, and just send the drawing in a 3d format .. I'm waiting.. or do I hear that ' bullshit 'call bouncing back at you ?? I think so..

4. Ok first you WANT to send me something to make for you.. now your saying, in the very next paragraph your not interested ?? make up your mind dude! Re: paragraph 3. " I told you last post how I can do it , how fast I can do it, and just send the drawing in a 3d format .. I'm waiting.. "Maybe I should be like you telling people I am making a jet engine swap at my backyard and it will only cost $50 for the swap. " .. um, where is it I said this ?? Just becuse I have the where with all and smarts to build a machine that can make molds for me pretty much for free. Don't go off yelling ' whitchcraft ' ( this is a litteralisim pertaining to your overboard reaction to what it costs me to make a mold )

5. AH! I see you've added paramters to the deal..

2 90mm Hella low beam
2 90mm Hella high beam
2 hella ballasts
2 philips HID bulbs.

You've now stated an exact product you want me to get where I said I could get one of a few different types and you originally aske me to prove it.. now your changing the parameters of this request .. as I said , call the right performance shops in Ontario and you'll get a pricing of .. with your newly defined criteria of @ $550 depending on the shop and thier mark up.. It's not up to me to go out and BUY a set to prove anything to yu, it's all available for anyone who wants to know to find out..

6."Modifying a stock hood is making a replica. " sematics making a replica part of something that is not made anymore OR making a part that is modified in shape and / or form , is no longer the original part. Besides.. Thier is a difference, If you make a copy of a hood, the person has already bought an original, it's his t do with as he /she's fit.. however you taking ONE part and copying it 100 times, from only ONE part is very very different.. You don't see too many auto companies going out to start legal action against a guy making CF hoods however , you go anead and copy that Re-A hood and see what kind of legal trouble it gets you in with them..
" So if I buy the RE-A bumper and simply make the mouth larger, it's not a replica anymore??" don't call it an RE-A hood and if it's modified enough, I doubt they'd have a legal leg to stand on, however you make it the same and sell it AS an RE-A part ?? this should be very easy to understand.. even for you Chuck.. DO you not 'GET' the difference.. or is this another one of those ' pay full price regardless of if the customer supplies his own materials ', ethics mind sets of yours..

7. Chuck.. YOUR apology Is accepted.. I understand your ethincs are that of a cartoon, used car salesman and that you really have no comprehension of copyright law or how it's possible to get or make something cheaper then you do .. as you said, your " confused" and at least you can admit it and I'm happy for you in that.

 

PPC those specific headlights are the ones he's been talking about the whole time and had the price of 500.00 on.

I also don't think you understand that he is making a replica of an RE amemiya bumper and selling it as a replica. He's not making copies and trying to pass them off as original RE Amemiya parts.

He can sell us the copy for 600 less than an original would cost. thats about 40%. Plus for the same price as an original bumper we can get the replica and HID's!!

Dunno bout you dood but my money tree hasn't started to blossom yet so I'll take any and all price breaks I can get.

Would I buy an original?? Sure!! If that was the only option.

I'm the type of guy who goes to the store and see's Lysol for 3.99 a can and right beside it is the replica from a no name manufacturer for 2.99. I'll take the one for 2.99 thank you.

Thats extra money that I can buy a loaf of bread with or in the case of my RX-7, A mazdatrix short shifter, Fluidyne radiator and perma cool fan.

Chuck is the type of guy who will refund your money if you get the replica in and it's a piece of crap that falls apart or doesn't fit anything like the original.

I know from personal experience.

Greg Sawyer

 

this is gettin ridiculous. Come on, guys. You're bickering was funny at first, but now is getting just plain obnoxious. I'm starting to think if I would even buy anything from either one of you. Both parties are not gonna let this one go w/o having said the last word. Not cool.

 

1. hahha.. ah.. i dont know what to do with you. You slap your own face and I am violent? Your suicidal behavior has nothing to do with me.

2. When did I take out context? Before you accuse me, can you quote me on it? You are the one who always take out context and add a bunch of assumptions yourself.

3. Now you tried to take out the context that you did call me unethical and wanted to call me names and apprently your IQ is probabaly lower than 72 that you don't remember what you said.

4. Does it cost more to weld and work with Ti? Yes. I thought you know? I guess you don't. Aluminum sheet is dirt cheap. So actually I am not marking it up at all even charging at $300. This is the same scenario with your request. I have to do more for S glass. I need to cut them into shape, blah blah bah, and also according to you, the material cost is like $35 for regular one so what are you talking about? See, you slap your own face again. =)

5. I am confused simply you don't make any sense. Just like when I talk to a patient from a nuthouse, I will be confused too. You just admit you make anyone with a normal state of mind confused. Maybe you should go see a doctor?

6. Now you have no interest. You are the one that's so excited beyond my imagination. Go read your own post at the first or second page to see how excited you are. You really should go see a doctor.

7. I want you to make a part? No, i just want to send you some piece of junk to see if you can fulfill your public claim. Maybe a Yugo hood just for laugh?

8. About HID, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. It's ok. I sold and manufacture more than 60 sets of those 3rd gen light kit and you think I don't know where to get those lights?? You kept saying about the Canadian retailer but you won't tell us which one or any detail. It's the same thing as I claim that I can buy a Ferrari for $20k but when pepole ask where, you just said somewhere.

9. I am not calling the bumper RE-A original, did I? Actually I already said the replica is not done, is not started, I am waiting for RE-A to get back to me. You really should go see a doctor. You can't absorb info too well and you tend to forget what you said too.

10. You are the one that has no idea on copyright. I feel sorry for you. Go read some copyright laws before you talk to me.

11. Remember to go see a doctor. I think you are going nuts. Now I feel sorry for you.

Chuck Huang

 

Nope, it's not possible. The light housing is part of the bumper.


Chuck Huang

 

Let's just hope PPR Racing is not going to come up here again and stir things up, deviating the whole purpose of the thread.

Chuck Huang

 

Chuck.. i don't kow how old you are.. or what your past business experience is.. but I've WORKED in this field for 18 years.. not just Auto but Aviation, where things that are not done right get people killed very very quickly, you don't want to believe a word I've said, that's YOUR perogitive.. you want to call me crazy for being able to do things cheaper and better, that's your perogative.. you want to act like a dullard and change the entire aspect of the coversation to how crazy you think I am.. again, that's your perogative.. fact remains though that I can walk out tomorrow and pick up a set of HIDs , as close as I can match to the ones you describe for $500 Canadian.. fact is I can take a 3D drawing and turn it into a mould within 3 to 12 hrs and have it ready for the autoclave an hr later.. Fact is I've made more FRP parts then you've ever seen in your life, parts that work at the speed of sound. Fact is using H-glass and polyester is the lowest form of FRP work, who's properties are well below the FRP bell curve now that model RC airplanes are being made from better stuff.

THese are FACTS that you cannot change.. so YOU go ahead and believe what you want and how you want to.. I really don't care.. but the facts, will always be the facts. Just because you don't feel like proving to yourself that yes you can buy or get a product for cheaper somewhere else does not mean it's not so..

your the man chuck.. you can argue illogically, with blinders on, with the best of them.. congratulations.. I don't see your FC sales plan garnering you anymore sales then you've had in the past.. maybe thier's a reason for that ..