rotaryextreme

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Dave:

I am really sorry. I haven't got time to work on it. If you like the Knight Sports light kit, how about I just import you one and sell you at my cost + $50 for service charge? Email me for price. BTW, the Knight Sports uses the same IPF lights. Every time I mention it, I have to say it one more time, they suck. =(

I really want to make the pop up light kit for the FC but I would like to see how this bumper sells. This is my 3rd try on the FC products.

First try: GTC bumper, failure, we screwed up and everyone seems to hate it. A lot of bashing on the net and calling it fugly. =(

2nd try: Knight Sports replica hood. It has been done for 4 months already. Still had the original one sitting at the warehouse doing nothing even it was offered for sale at cost for $900. I still have 6 fiberglass replicas sitting there chilling with the original hood. Sold none. =(

3rd try: RE Amemiya FC2002 bumper. Don't know what the outcome will be.

If this one does not sell, I can't really make stuff for the FC anymore. Everytime I make parts for FC, I end up losing money. No one likes to lose money right?

Chuck Huang

Liquid Anarchy

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I hate to say it, but you're picking the wrong things to replica.

Before they were out, the only thing I ever heard of anyone wanting (hood wise) were CF hoods. All the time "CF HOODS". If you could've jumped on that earlier, you'd have a nice bit of cash.

Also, making your 1st FC product a custom hybrid application... wasn't too good of a choice then you're just breaking into the feild.

Now, you're on the right track though. The FC2000 front end has been 'the' kit that everyone's wanted since I got on this board. The next one should probably be the GP (GN?) sports front end, as it's the next up-and-comer. Then you could move into other things, such as a vented hood (which a lot of people still want) or maybe even an inexpensive wideody kit?

Just my thoughts on your business ventures, sorry if it's out of place.


PS: I'd but your GT-C nose on my car before I'd TOUCH the BOMEX front end

Dru112

I was wondering where you ordered the original one? and how long did you take to get it?

deltr0n`

if you went into CF, and made misc. CF interior/exterior pieces, you would sell a LOT, everyone wants CF....but yet NO one makes it for our cars, with the exception of a few...

is it possible for you to get me a CF headlight scoop cover? along with a factory CF drivers side to match, i will buy it asap if so..

PPC-Racing

Doing any kind of FRP work is allot of inital outlay, I've been burned before making CF hoods and parts for groups that " really really wanted them and would pay anything to have them", it's not so much the actual materials, that cost is like 20%, it's the mould and fabrication man hrs that go into the mould that are the big expense.
Rotary Extreme, the best way I've found over the years to make sure you have a solid customer base ordering a min for you to amortize and break even on, is to set up a 'intro ' group buy, charge say 10% or whatever under the cost of what you would normally charge for the item, then ask for a deposit of usually 30 to 45% of the total. Given that you secure a fixed delivery time, I'm sure you'd be able to then judge the actual customer base for this..

As I said in an earlier post, as long as you use an epoxy base and not a polyester base resin, I'm in for the full blown kit. Polyester has a 'sag point' of just over boiling... running charge air piping to IC's and high wattage bulbs close to the surface , especially with a dark paint and a southern sun beating down on the part, you'll get a soft spot pretty quick.. It may cost a slight bit more to make but the durability and quality of the part will be well beyod the Jap. original part..

I've been burned before the same way.. the methond I've pointed out works well as a baraometer of interest..

Also I'm not sure if I'm just not 'getting' your site.. but each time I go there everything I see is for the FD.. you don't have a specific FC section, if you did that then I'd have known about your parts, as it is.. you mentioning the 1st. anmd 2nd. try parts is the very first I've heard of them...

Liquid Anarchy

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Actually, I've ever seen his replica of the knightsports hood. He's just been trying to sell his origional hood... as far as I know anyway.

The GT-C front end can be found on his website.

0100

I would also like to know. Can the gap between the hood be solved with an S5 hood(I don't think their is a diff.)?

T2 Tsunami

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You can definitely count me in for the bumper kit...as long as you can have it done by June, and there are no problems with fitment.

rotaryextreme

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FC3S.org has been selling those CF hoods for sometime now. I am sorry to say that even at that kind of affordable prices, he did not sell too many. I talked to him and I was very surprised. I thought he could have sold at least 100 easily but he did not even sell more than 15. If you want CF hoos in the stock form, you should buy from fc3s.org. I am not going to make one to take away his business.

The Knight Sports hood is the vented one.

If you want me to make anything, I will need at least 10 pre paid buyers. The bumper I will make it for sure but on any other stuff, I can't make them without knowing that I have some for-sure sales. It's too risky.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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We import all the bodykits directly from Japan. It took me 3 months to get it because RE Amemiya was lagging. We don't buy from the other US vendors. We have a container coming in almost every month.









Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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I don't have too many FC products right now. The only thing I have are the FEED, RE Amemiya, and Mazdapseed. Just to go those links and you will see them. They are mixed with the FD products.

The knight sports hood can be seen on the homepage. Just scroll down and you will see it.

I can have those parts made but like I said, I am not going to make them without knowing I have at least 10 for sure buyers.

If there is something unique you are looking for, you might want to just buy the original. Finding 10 people wanting the same thing as you is not too easy.

Let's see how the bumper sells first. If it does not sell, this will be the last item I make for the FC. I will be concentrating on the FD and the RX-8 products. I am sorry to say this but no one likes to make something that does not sell. Everytime I make something, the initial investment ranges from $3000-4000. It's not cheap.

I will not make a copy of the GP Sport bodykit. The original price is pretty affordable already. It makes no sense to make a replica. Even if I do, it will not be that muh cheaper.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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That I really don't know. Ask people who have upgrade thier S4 bumper and fender to S5 and see what they say. I am sorry but I don't have a FC myself. The only thing I know is that if you put on the S5 bumper to the S4 fenders and hood, there are gaps.

Chuck Huang

InitialD FC

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Yeah... what he said!

OptimusPrime

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just wondering anyway u can make one without the headlight conversion? and how much would it cost?

rotaryextreme

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I don't know if you notice that the bumper is a different shape than the stock bumper. It's costs me the same to make one with the headlight kit or without. The housings are part of the bumper already.

Even if I make one without the headlight, it's going to cost $650 as well. I don't plan to do that either. I am aiming for the market segment that wants to get the headlight conversion and bumper replacement at the same time and wants to save a lot of money.

Chuck Huang

PPC-Racing

I took a look at the hood and the problem for me and maybe a few others is that up here in Canada, it's a tad bit moister(?), more often and those massive open hood areas would play havoc with the electrical in the down pours. It's obviously wet over in Japan too so I'd like to see what they do to solve this problem..

j200pruf

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Is there any chance that you would be making the RE rear wing? I really like that one, but its ust a little too expensive.

Grizzly

I've always been a little funny about Copys? will they be as good Quality as the Re ones?

I see it like CD's the more times its copyed the poorer the copys become?

Also do Re know you are copying there kits? I am not being funny but if i had designed it etc i'd not be a happy bunny.

Chris

YakATK

All I can say is I hope you sell lots of these RE front clips and keep making em. I REALLY want one but there is too much other that takes priority for my low income right now, but come end of summer I would be down for getting one for sure no questions asked! Good luck with this man, hope it works out and hope you make mass profit and keep making stuff for the wonderful FC.

Tim Benton

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I don't think I've ever heard of any problems dealing with things Chuck has made so I wouldn't worry about fitment issues, he does a great job on his things and they will fit as well as the original.

Tim

Grizzly

Why cant Chuck just make his own design? somthing simalar?

I understand he just trying to make money but why rip of other peoples designs?

Chris

Erik

its because people WANT the RE front. Chuck has made his own designs, like the GTC nose which I think came out great. But if there is more demand for the RE product, I applaud him for taking the initiative to try and bring it to us at a cheaper cost.

I bought a FEED replica lip from a member in the fall...was it of lesser quality than the real FEED one? maybe/maybe not...but it was $300 cheaper and was delivered to me across the country in under a week. If I wanted the real one I'd be out $300 more and probably still be waiting! haha

Hmmm, now I have to save up for the RE Y2K

PPC-Racing

DUDE! I just told you why, it's not the part that costs allot of money it's the mould! sure making an original design is great, but now you have the spend the money to make a mock up, then make a mould from that, pull a test part from that mould, test it for fitment , aerodynamics, destruction, possible problems.. then make a proper long term mould and then start to pull parts ready to sell part..

What?? you think these things pop out of someones butt ready to go to market, the reason he CAN charge less ( although he's still high if, as it seems RE is avoiding my compisition questions about it so I will assume it's low end h-glass and polyester which in a materials cost with HID lights probably $300 to $400 from my 18 years of FRP creating.. ) , for this product is the fact that he does not now have to go through all the primary steps, just amke a high quality mould and that it. Otherwise your looking at the same price , if not more for the same part if it had to be created from scratch..

RE seems to be very uniterested in the north american market of competing in it , if you've got a problem with him doing this then order a real RE from him or someone else.. you do have a choice.

rotaryextreme

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This is a interesting point. The TII hood directs air directly to the intercooler which sits on top of the engine. What happens when it rains?

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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I can make anything but I need 10 pre paid buyers. For the RE Amemiya CF GT II wing, you are looking about $800-900. I will have the stands made in CNC machined billet aluminum.

Chuck Huang