RE Amemiya FC2002 bumper is here! Replica on the way!
Man this **** is getting really annoying. Every time someone starts a post like this theres that one person whos just gotta get under everyones skin. PPC just let rotary do his thing and supply all us little fc drivers with fine looking parts for our fcs and lets leave it at that.
Originally posted by PPC-Racing
you want to call me crazy for being able to do things cheaper and better, that's your perogative..
you want to call me crazy for being able to do things cheaper and better, that's your perogative..
.. if you read the posts you can see that I happen to be a bit busy designing and building 6 different turbo kits amoung other things.. perhaps you'd like to wait till after that when i do produce parts, to decide right off the bat that I'm ' full of ****' is innane.. if you read the thread you'll aslo notice that before this nonsense started.. I did say, "it's MY OPINION LET THE SALES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES" It seems del you didn't read the whole thing.. you gust looked at what you wanted to see and made giant assumptions about the resast.., Personally I really don't give a crap most of the people bitching are doing so to get cheap parts.. well I hope that's what you get.. have fun.. meanwhile I'll make my parts for those that want QUALITY, not CHEAP.. Why is it the ones with nothing but bad manners and swearing all come from California ? were you brought up in a barn?
edit: Just by the fact that we use 3D software to design everything and CNC machings to make out molds, that alone is enough to make the part 10x better then one that's been hand laied in off of an exsisting part.. if nothing else you pull the exsisting defects off with it.. and you'll never get a perfect suface from a hand laid mould. Not to mention the S-glass, spectrum and advanced composites I use ONLY. and the that epoxy is miles ahead of polyester as a resin matrx..
edit: Just by the fact that we use 3D software to design everything and CNC machings to make out molds, that alone is enough to make the part 10x better then one that's been hand laied in off of an exsisting part.. if nothing else you pull the exsisting defects off with it.. and you'll never get a perfect suface from a hand laid mould. Not to mention the S-glass, spectrum and advanced composites I use ONLY. and the that epoxy is miles ahead of polyester as a resin matrx..
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Originally posted by PPC-Racing
[BWhy is it the ones with nothing but bad manners and swearing all come from California ? were you brought up in a barn?
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[BWhy is it the ones with nothing but bad manners and swearing all come from California ? were you brought up in a barn?
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For someone that runs a business, you sure do run your freakin mouth alot. Let Chuck run his business, you've said what you had to say, so just let it go. If it's crappy, or if it's great, the FC community will have their say. Why can't you just drop the subject and stop shitting on his thread. DAMN!
BTW, insulting others will definitely not help out any business you own.
I've expressed my personal opinion andhad insult after insult thrown my way.. I've taken very well thank you up until now. tell you what drift and the rest of you asses who feel the need to swear and 'run at the mouth' take your bowling for dullard attitudes and bullocks to you. If yyour SOLE reason for this thread is cheap over quality then by all means ENJOY.. and my business does not involve parts for the FC unless they are one off specific for inhouse customers.. so really making parts for you drift is probably way above your league.
Originally posted by PPC-Racing
tell you what drift and the rest of you asses who feel the need to swear and 'run at the mouth' take your bowling for dullard attitudes and bullocks to you. so really making parts for you drift is probably way above your league.
tell you what drift and the rest of you asses who feel the need to swear and 'run at the mouth' take your bowling for dullard attitudes and bullocks to you. so really making parts for you drift is probably way above your league.
Originally posted by PPC-Racing
I've expressed my personal opinion andhad insult after insult thrown my way.. I've taken very well thank you up until now. tell you what drift and the rest of you asses who feel the need to swear and 'run at the mouth' take your bowling for dullard attitudes and bullocks to you. If yyour SOLE reason for this thread is cheap over quality then by all means ENJOY.. and my business does not involve parts for the FC unless they are one off specific for inhouse customers.. so really making parts for you drift is probably way above your league.
I've expressed my personal opinion andhad insult after insult thrown my way.. I've taken very well thank you up until now. tell you what drift and the rest of you asses who feel the need to swear and 'run at the mouth' take your bowling for dullard attitudes and bullocks to you. If yyour SOLE reason for this thread is cheap over quality then by all means ENJOY.. and my business does not involve parts for the FC unless they are one off specific for inhouse customers.. so really making parts for you drift is probably way above your league.
BTW, Rotary Extreme, I will definately be interested in a REPLICA of just the bumper if you were to make it.
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Thank you guys. Now PPC finally realizes that he is better than all of us and he will leave us alone so we can get back on the subject.
This weekend, I will take pictures of the RE Amemiya original IPF lighting v.s. regular Hella 90mm lighting v.s. HID Hella 90mm lighting.
After I hear anything from RE-A, I will let you guys know. One thing at a time. =)
Chuck Huang
This weekend, I will take pictures of the RE Amemiya original IPF lighting v.s. regular Hella 90mm lighting v.s. HID Hella 90mm lighting.
After I hear anything from RE-A, I will let you guys know. One thing at a time. =)
Chuck Huang
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Hey PPC why don't you stop wasting your time and talking **** and spend some time taking care of your own company? Maybe start by finishing up your website which looks like absolute ****? I know lots of people like you, who may have a wide-range of marketable skills (which has yet to be seen) but really have no ******* clue how to run a business. By your own description of your company it sounds like ****. It's just sad. Stop inhaling that resin.
omiting the crap spewed from the cali people who responded to do nothing but be insipid..
EG: EPOXY has no smell or heavy vapor content, it has no styrene in it .. so I can't really inhale the fumes, try to get your product knowledge even close to the right product before you try a slam..
we make turbo kits in various levels for the zetec line of engines ( focus, cougar, zx2, contour some overseas models with zetec), we make kits for the BP/BPT, a TT for the 2.5L duratec and SVT, the 3.0L in the taurus and mazda 6. we make a kit, although limited, for both 7M-GTE and 1JZ-GTE. We also supply rebuild kits in long and short kits for most turbos and sell turbos of any make and any level, new or used.. We just picked up from our supplier the same turbo that Callaway used in it's TT Z06 a few years back, brand new and under $800 Canadian retail. this will be a nice addition to the 7M-GTE turbo kit..
kits, at a basic level, consist of a new garrett turbo, a stainless header with equal wall thickness bends, stainless down pipe, external 35mm wastegate, 30mm BOV, 6061 -T6 charged air piping, glass reinforced 4mm silicone hose couplings, stainless T=-clamps, piggyback computer with switchable settings and data logging, new injectors, replacment fans where needed.. the base kit is usually meant to run with the OEM computers settings in mind, the ECU for the zetec will handle up to 4.5 psi of boost without a piggyback or upgraded injectors.. above that upgrades in inj. and the piggyback will be supplied. other upgrades include extreme machine's custom all metal IC's ceramic coated turbine housings, anodised aluminim parts colour matching or otherwise, including compressor housing.. upgraded fuel systems and many other things that I can't list off the top of my head..
EG: EPOXY has no smell or heavy vapor content, it has no styrene in it .. so I can't really inhale the fumes, try to get your product knowledge even close to the right product before you try a slam..
Originally posted by West TX RX-7
PPC...what kind of turbo kits are you making exactly? What is included, what did you make, for what car?
PPC...what kind of turbo kits are you making exactly? What is included, what did you make, for what car?
kits, at a basic level, consist of a new garrett turbo, a stainless header with equal wall thickness bends, stainless down pipe, external 35mm wastegate, 30mm BOV, 6061 -T6 charged air piping, glass reinforced 4mm silicone hose couplings, stainless T=-clamps, piggyback computer with switchable settings and data logging, new injectors, replacment fans where needed.. the base kit is usually meant to run with the OEM computers settings in mind, the ECU for the zetec will handle up to 4.5 psi of boost without a piggyback or upgraded injectors.. above that upgrades in inj. and the piggyback will be supplied. other upgrades include extreme machine's custom all metal IC's ceramic coated turbine housings, anodised aluminim parts colour matching or otherwise, including compressor housing.. upgraded fuel systems and many other things that I can't list off the top of my head..
Last edited by PPC-Racing; Mar 19, 2003 at 02:12 AM.
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Ok first off I don't pretend to know or to be able to create carbon fiber products. However I have had the priviledge of visiting several c/f manufacturers all over the world and there definately is a smell. I am told the epoxy resin can smell bad and in fact be harmful to the respiratory system, so I am already doubtful of your "high and mighty example."
Second, from what you describe your "company" sounds like an overglorified muffler shop at best. I too can order custom trimmed turbos from Garret, custom springed wastegates from Tial, solder in piggy back units, and so can everyone else in this forum. That in itself means nothing, and even much less as it just seems you are trying way too hard to drop names and specs to try to prove yourself which is pathetic. If your "company" really is all that you say it is, its reputation would speak for itself and you wouldn't have to...
Get off your high horse and get a life. You are not impressing anyone with your ranting. Instead of picking fights on the forum go back to work, make some real products (your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality) and get off someone else's thread who is trying to help the RX7 community instead of bringing it down.
Second, from what you describe your "company" sounds like an overglorified muffler shop at best. I too can order custom trimmed turbos from Garret, custom springed wastegates from Tial, solder in piggy back units, and so can everyone else in this forum. That in itself means nothing, and even much less as it just seems you are trying way too hard to drop names and specs to try to prove yourself which is pathetic. If your "company" really is all that you say it is, its reputation would speak for itself and you wouldn't have to...
Get off your high horse and get a life. You are not impressing anyone with your ranting. Instead of picking fights on the forum go back to work, make some real products (your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality) and get off someone else's thread who is trying to help the RX7 community instead of bringing it down.
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I Use MGS system EPOXY, please , point out a smell to me in it?? as far as anyone has noticed thier is no decernable smell to this. I've also used west and interlux , neither of which .. smell.
Please , if you think you can put together a turbo system for a car that comes on at a specific RPM and will boost fully at a specific RPM, if you can cut and make your own headers, that have a specific flow velocity inherent to the engine it's onand turbo it's mated to, if you can then dyno and program a piggy back yourself, then by all means go right ahead.. I named dropped to let this other person know what products we used in our kit.. or would you rather that evey company out there NOT tell you want out sourced parts they use ? You may be able to order all the parts I have, but do you have any clue how to put them together, do you have a clue as to what the charged air temp will be on a specific turbo, given a specific ambient air temp? and then program your piggyback fuel and ignition system to function with them?
"(your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality)"
OK now that's very funny, what headder were you looking at ? the custom fabbed one on the turbo page... that one was actually made by the top welder/ fabricator for a company called The Guild.. you may have heard of them, they build 1/2 million dollar, award winning show cars for people from all over the world, he's one of the best fabricators in Ontario.. so I guess I should give you his email so you can tell him just how much he sucks.. I'd like to see you make a 2" 316 SS header, mandrel bent, one off for under $400 Canadian, that would be @ $ 266 US..
The only person looking for a fight appears to be your redneck ***.. take it somewhere else Bubba. My originial questions where valid and well within the Context of this topic..
Please , if you think you can put together a turbo system for a car that comes on at a specific RPM and will boost fully at a specific RPM, if you can cut and make your own headers, that have a specific flow velocity inherent to the engine it's onand turbo it's mated to, if you can then dyno and program a piggy back yourself, then by all means go right ahead.. I named dropped to let this other person know what products we used in our kit.. or would you rather that evey company out there NOT tell you want out sourced parts they use ? You may be able to order all the parts I have, but do you have any clue how to put them together, do you have a clue as to what the charged air temp will be on a specific turbo, given a specific ambient air temp? and then program your piggyback fuel and ignition system to function with them?
"(your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality)"
OK now that's very funny, what headder were you looking at ? the custom fabbed one on the turbo page... that one was actually made by the top welder/ fabricator for a company called The Guild.. you may have heard of them, they build 1/2 million dollar, award winning show cars for people from all over the world, he's one of the best fabricators in Ontario.. so I guess I should give you his email so you can tell him just how much he sucks.. I'd like to see you make a 2" 316 SS header, mandrel bent, one off for under $400 Canadian, that would be @ $ 266 US..
The only person looking for a fight appears to be your redneck ***.. take it somewhere else Bubba. My originial questions where valid and well within the Context of this topic..
Originally posted by FullBoostFD3S
Ok first off I don't pretend to know or to be able to create carbon fiber products. However I have had the priviledge of visiting several c/f manufacturers all over the world and there definately is a smell. I am told the epoxy resin can smell bad and in fact be harmful to the respiratory system, so I am already doubtful of your "high and mighty example."
Second, from what you describe your "company" sounds like an overglorified muffler shop at best. I too can order custom trimmed turbos from Garret, custom springed wastegates from Tial, solder in piggy back units, and so can everyone else in this forum. That in itself means nothing, and even much less as it just seems you are trying way too hard to drop names and specs to try to prove yourself which is pathetic. If your "company" really is all that you say it is, its reputation would speak for itself and you wouldn't have to...
Get off your high horse and get a life. You are not impressing anyone with your ranting. Instead of picking fights on the forum go back to work, make some real products (your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality) and get off someone else's thread who is trying to help the RX7 community instead of bringing it down.
Ok first off I don't pretend to know or to be able to create carbon fiber products. However I have had the priviledge of visiting several c/f manufacturers all over the world and there definately is a smell. I am told the epoxy resin can smell bad and in fact be harmful to the respiratory system, so I am already doubtful of your "high and mighty example."
Second, from what you describe your "company" sounds like an overglorified muffler shop at best. I too can order custom trimmed turbos from Garret, custom springed wastegates from Tial, solder in piggy back units, and so can everyone else in this forum. That in itself means nothing, and even much less as it just seems you are trying way too hard to drop names and specs to try to prove yourself which is pathetic. If your "company" really is all that you say it is, its reputation would speak for itself and you wouldn't have to...
Get off your high horse and get a life. You are not impressing anyone with your ranting. Instead of picking fights on the forum go back to work, make some real products (your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality) and get off someone else's thread who is trying to help the RX7 community instead of bringing it down.
Last edited by PPC-Racing; Mar 19, 2003 at 03:39 AM.
its never ending....can you guys just stop talking to him, then he wont have to think of any more stuff to make up.
like i said, if you can prove what your claiming to be true then all praise towards you, but i seriously doubt it....with all your "other projects" if your so busy with all these big bad turbo kits, a simple bumper should be cake for you right? after all you have all the top notch equipment! couple hours here, couple hours there, and presto, its better AND cheaper than Chucks!....you could make a lot of money and shut him up...
like i said, if you can prove what your claiming to be true then all praise towards you, but i seriously doubt it....with all your "other projects" if your so busy with all these big bad turbo kits, a simple bumper should be cake for you right? after all you have all the top notch equipment! couple hours here, couple hours there, and presto, its better AND cheaper than Chucks!....you could make a lot of money and shut him up...
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Originally posted by PPC-Racing
"(your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality)"
OK now that's very funny, what headder were you looking at ? the custom fabbed one on the turbo page... that one was actually made by the top welder/ fabricator for a company called The Guild.. you may have heard of them, they build 1/2 million dollar, award winning show cars for people from all over the world, he's one of the best fabricators in Ontario...
"(your manifolds are just sad, I can contract that for about 1/4 of the price with much better quality)"
OK now that's very funny, what headder were you looking at ? the custom fabbed one on the turbo page... that one was actually made by the top welder/ fabricator for a company called The Guild.. you may have heard of them, they build 1/2 million dollar, award winning show cars for people from all over the world, he's one of the best fabricators in Ontario...
I'd like to see you make a 2" 316 SS header, mandrel bent, one off for under $400 Canadian, that would be @ $ 266 US...
PFC, I dont really want to get on your ***, but if you really have nothing to contribute to the thread except getting on everyones nerves, please just leave. This is for people interested in this replica.
I personally dont care if you try to make copies of someting. On teamfc3s.org, at one point in time I was gonna make copies of the atkins rebuild video, and I got flamed up the *** from everyone because of that. It's not like I was trying to **** people off, I just wanted to help them out. I'm sure thats what you're trying to do too, rotaryextreme.
If you duplicate or just buy bulk, either way, you're doing a good thing for us. Even with that GTC ( I think ) bumper, you're trying to help out FC owners. I didnt think the thing looked really bad, I would have preferred a different one before that. There is alot of us FC owners that are dying to get ahold of RE-A products, and alot of other JDM products. The problem is, everything is so damn expensive.
I am glad that you are doing this, and would like to say thanks.
I personally dont care if you try to make copies of someting. On teamfc3s.org, at one point in time I was gonna make copies of the atkins rebuild video, and I got flamed up the *** from everyone because of that. It's not like I was trying to **** people off, I just wanted to help them out. I'm sure thats what you're trying to do too, rotaryextreme.
If you duplicate or just buy bulk, either way, you're doing a good thing for us. Even with that GTC ( I think ) bumper, you're trying to help out FC owners. I didnt think the thing looked really bad, I would have preferred a different one before that. There is alot of us FC owners that are dying to get ahold of RE-A products, and alot of other JDM products. The problem is, everything is so damn expensive.
I am glad that you are doing this, and would like to say thanks.
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Actually I NEVER said it was great.. I pointed out the person that made it was very good, considering it was a rush , one off done in a day it's very good. It's a 100% utility header, that's it..
It's very funny, all you people who have no clue about the first thing that goes into production fabrication have all these comments about quality and levle of my buusiness, you jump on me for assuming and pissing on Chuck yet here you are two facing and doing the same right back, except with a difference, none of you have a back ground in FRP I do..
Originally posted by InitialD FC
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Im gonna go out on a limb here, but this is the super-dee-duper ultra fabricated manifold?
Uhhh, ok? Whenever your ready ill whip one up for ya... But it won't be as show quality as the one above.
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Uhhh, ok? Whenever your ready ill whip one up for ya... But it won't be as show quality as the one above.
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That manifold is truly the best one I have seen from a 1/4 million dollar car with a bunch of weld running inside, not equal lengthed, and with no 4-1 merge collector, like this one.
Did I mention you can buy this 4-1 turbo merge collector for $305 in 321SS?
Compared to that, I think my custom one off Ti-exhaust for the 3rd gen with clean welding, Nitrogen purged welding process, and no running welds inside the pipe looks like ****
Chuck Huang
Did I mention you can buy this 4-1 turbo merge collector for $305 in 321SS?
Compared to that, I think my custom one off Ti-exhaust for the 3rd gen with clean welding, Nitrogen purged welding process, and no running welds inside the pipe looks like ****
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by InitialD FC
Im gonna go out on a limb here, but this is the super-dee-duper ultra fabricated manifold?
Uhhh, ok? Whenever your ready ill whip one up for ya... But it won't be as show quality as the one above.
Uhhh, ok? Whenever your ready ill whip one up for ya... But it won't be as show quality as the one above.
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Hey, you should really stop assuming that you are the best fabricator in the whole world and assuming all the people on the forum are ignorant. It's simply not true. There are plenty of engineers, like yourself (if it's true) and people with high education on the internet.
If you want to prove yourself, just have something done and everyone will acknowledge you. So far your product that's shown on your own website looks like crap and you came up with a bunch of excuses afterward. The manifold you described was supposed to be made by a company which makes manifold's for 1/4 million dollar cars. I am sorry. All those 1/4 million dollar cars or anything not even close to that range uses the merge collector as shown in my previous post. Yours is even worse than the off the shelf 4-1 manifold made for Honda civic. You can buy one from Greddy retail for $350 and it's 200% better than the one you have shown. The best part is I thought you don't use contractor and you made everything yourself so where is this Guild company coming into place?
Now people know your manifold looks like crap and not good as advertised so you want to go back to FRP like you are the most experienced FRP fabricator on the forum? I personally know the owner of a company that makes and fixes Indy car bodypanels (vacuum carbon and autoclaved) and the people working there are not even at 1% as cocky as you are. You really don't impress me at all. I don't know about the rest of FC owners but apparently some feel the same as I do.
If you still show contempt on the rest of people on the internet, you are only hurting yourself, not me or my business. Apparently I have something that I can offer but you don't, other than your endless ranting based on nothing.
Do yourself a favor. If you want people to know how great you are, you can start another thread at the Lounge. I bet there should be a lot of people admiring you over there. Leave this thread alone. Please??
Chuck Huang
If you want to prove yourself, just have something done and everyone will acknowledge you. So far your product that's shown on your own website looks like crap and you came up with a bunch of excuses afterward. The manifold you described was supposed to be made by a company which makes manifold's for 1/4 million dollar cars. I am sorry. All those 1/4 million dollar cars or anything not even close to that range uses the merge collector as shown in my previous post. Yours is even worse than the off the shelf 4-1 manifold made for Honda civic. You can buy one from Greddy retail for $350 and it's 200% better than the one you have shown. The best part is I thought you don't use contractor and you made everything yourself so where is this Guild company coming into place?
Now people know your manifold looks like crap and not good as advertised so you want to go back to FRP like you are the most experienced FRP fabricator on the forum? I personally know the owner of a company that makes and fixes Indy car bodypanels (vacuum carbon and autoclaved) and the people working there are not even at 1% as cocky as you are. You really don't impress me at all. I don't know about the rest of FC owners but apparently some feel the same as I do.
If you still show contempt on the rest of people on the internet, you are only hurting yourself, not me or my business. Apparently I have something that I can offer but you don't, other than your endless ranting based on nothing.
Do yourself a favor. If you want people to know how great you are, you can start another thread at the Lounge. I bet there should be a lot of people admiring you over there. Leave this thread alone. Please??
Chuck Huang
Originally posted by PPC-Racing
Actually I NEVER said it was great.. I pointed out the person that made it was very good, considering it was a rush , one off done in a day it's very good. It's a 100% utility header, that's it..
It's very funny, all you people who have no clue about the first thing that goes into production fabrication have all these comments about quality and levle of my buusiness, you jump on me for assuming and pissing on Chuck yet here you are two facing and doing the same right back, except with a difference, none of you have a back ground in FRP I do..
Actually I NEVER said it was great.. I pointed out the person that made it was very good, considering it was a rush , one off done in a day it's very good. It's a 100% utility header, that's it..
It's very funny, all you people who have no clue about the first thing that goes into production fabrication have all these comments about quality and levle of my buusiness, you jump on me for assuming and pissing on Chuck yet here you are two facing and doing the same right back, except with a difference, none of you have a back ground in FRP I do..
yep.. blah blah blah..
"Hey, you should really stop assuming that you are the best fabricator in the whole world and assuming all the people on the forum are ignorant. "
never said I was.. YOU said I was just now, thanks. Also i think your assuming to know what I think about EVERYONE ELSE ON THE NET... now given that you just berated ME for doing the same thing that your doing now...? you probalby have now clue what I'm getting at with this do you kid ?
I never claimed that part to anything but what it was a quikly made part for someone that's it, YOU all assumed it was something else and I guess you all felt the need to MAKE it into something more then it is.
"Now people know your manifold looks like crap and not good as advertised so you want to go back to FRP like you are the most experienced FRP fabricator on the forum?"
Your damn right it looks like crap, it was never suppose to be anything but UTILITY .. do you understand that, it gets the job done, thier may be tonnes of parts out there for a Honda to choose from but this was made for a 1.6L BPT 87 323.. with 3 days notice and one day to build it.. not that I need to expalin this too you, but starting from nothing but one flat sheet of stainless and some mandrel bent tubing and ending up with this at the end of a day is damn good.
"You really don't impress me at all. I don't know about the rest of FC owners but apparently some feel the same as I do. "
yes some do, and all have one thing in common, they either start or end thier comments with the something to do with you and buying cheap parts from you.. I'd like to see how well your received if you sold items that were more expensive.. I doubt you'd have all these kids running to your side to protect the guy making expensive parts.. Your the hero to the cheap people, good for you chuck.
Also the burns part is NOT a header it's a collector only , it's machine made and very simple, it will also not fit in the space that we had to work with on the 323. nioce try though, the Muffler is again a machine welded part cut and fitted on CnC machines. So yes against those Items I think any hand made part, regardless is going to look sloppy. The head welder for the aircraft company who's been doing Tig for 40 years does not have welds as clean as a m,achine.. can't be done.. So yet again your comparison take two completely different spectrums of fabrication and you try to compare them. I guess when you produce a front bumper I should match it up to the Multimatic carbon fiber front end they make for Fords ALMS prototype car.. same type of comparison.. or do you again NOT GET IT!
"Hey, you should really stop assuming that you are the best fabricator in the whole world and assuming all the people on the forum are ignorant. "
never said I was.. YOU said I was just now, thanks. Also i think your assuming to know what I think about EVERYONE ELSE ON THE NET... now given that you just berated ME for doing the same thing that your doing now...? you probalby have now clue what I'm getting at with this do you kid ?
I never claimed that part to anything but what it was a quikly made part for someone that's it, YOU all assumed it was something else and I guess you all felt the need to MAKE it into something more then it is.
"Now people know your manifold looks like crap and not good as advertised so you want to go back to FRP like you are the most experienced FRP fabricator on the forum?"
Your damn right it looks like crap, it was never suppose to be anything but UTILITY .. do you understand that, it gets the job done, thier may be tonnes of parts out there for a Honda to choose from but this was made for a 1.6L BPT 87 323.. with 3 days notice and one day to build it.. not that I need to expalin this too you, but starting from nothing but one flat sheet of stainless and some mandrel bent tubing and ending up with this at the end of a day is damn good.
"You really don't impress me at all. I don't know about the rest of FC owners but apparently some feel the same as I do. "
yes some do, and all have one thing in common, they either start or end thier comments with the something to do with you and buying cheap parts from you.. I'd like to see how well your received if you sold items that were more expensive.. I doubt you'd have all these kids running to your side to protect the guy making expensive parts.. Your the hero to the cheap people, good for you chuck.
Also the burns part is NOT a header it's a collector only , it's machine made and very simple, it will also not fit in the space that we had to work with on the 323. nioce try though, the Muffler is again a machine welded part cut and fitted on CnC machines. So yes against those Items I think any hand made part, regardless is going to look sloppy. The head welder for the aircraft company who's been doing Tig for 40 years does not have welds as clean as a m,achine.. can't be done.. So yet again your comparison take two completely different spectrums of fabrication and you try to compare them. I guess when you produce a front bumper I should match it up to the Multimatic carbon fiber front end they make for Fords ALMS prototype car.. same type of comparison.. or do you again NOT GET IT!
Last edited by PPC-Racing; Mar 19, 2003 at 08:47 AM.
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Yes, you are the best fabricator I have heard, not seen. Yes I am a kid, a 27 year old kid. Yes, all my customers want cheap parts but apprently my Ti exhaust is 1000% better than your piece of crap "utility" manifold and mine is hand made and hand welded.
You think your 321 SS manifold is the **** huh? Let me tell you this, on my Ti exhaust, the whole thing is Ti including the flanges, hangers, and canister. Apparently, my "cheap" cusotmers can afford my nicely made high qulity Ti exhaust vs. your cheap ugly looking "utility"manifold. I can make a "utility" exhaust like your cheaply welded, with running welds inside the pipe, and with bunch of oxidation which indicates the wrong welding temperature and improper purging. But I don't think my customer is going to like the excuses of "short notice" in exchange for a piece of crap part. But according to you, as long as it gets the job done (utility), it's ok right? Talking about business ethics. I don't know whose customers are getting screwed.
You can't tell robotic tig welding from hand welding? The burns "merge collector" is hand made too and hand welded. I have pictures of them doing that. Want to see it? Get the burns stainless catalog and you will see pictures of their guy welding the merge collector by hand and cut each tube by a band saw. If you are too lazy, I will scan you the pictures and post them for you. So both my Ti exhaust and the Burns merge collector are just too good for you to believe they are hand made and hand welded?
You don't get it do you??
You make cheap parts but you always come up with a bunch of excuses and when someone else's part is just superior, you try to put them into a different catagory. You are so pathetic. I feel sorry for you. Why do you keep coming back here and get humuliated? I don't get it. Yeah, you are right, I truly don't get it.
BTW, you haven't answered the quesiton. Since you claimed you made all your parts, where did this Guild company come from making your manifold and now there is another guy who has 40 years of welding experience doing welding? How old is this guy? 60 year old? I don't know if a 60 year old can do nice welding. 60 year old with good eyes and steady hands. wow.. impressive.
Chuck huang
You think your 321 SS manifold is the **** huh? Let me tell you this, on my Ti exhaust, the whole thing is Ti including the flanges, hangers, and canister. Apparently, my "cheap" cusotmers can afford my nicely made high qulity Ti exhaust vs. your cheap ugly looking "utility"manifold. I can make a "utility" exhaust like your cheaply welded, with running welds inside the pipe, and with bunch of oxidation which indicates the wrong welding temperature and improper purging. But I don't think my customer is going to like the excuses of "short notice" in exchange for a piece of crap part. But according to you, as long as it gets the job done (utility), it's ok right? Talking about business ethics. I don't know whose customers are getting screwed.
You can't tell robotic tig welding from hand welding? The burns "merge collector" is hand made too and hand welded. I have pictures of them doing that. Want to see it? Get the burns stainless catalog and you will see pictures of their guy welding the merge collector by hand and cut each tube by a band saw. If you are too lazy, I will scan you the pictures and post them for you. So both my Ti exhaust and the Burns merge collector are just too good for you to believe they are hand made and hand welded?
You don't get it do you??
You make cheap parts but you always come up with a bunch of excuses and when someone else's part is just superior, you try to put them into a different catagory. You are so pathetic. I feel sorry for you. Why do you keep coming back here and get humuliated? I don't get it. Yeah, you are right, I truly don't get it.
BTW, you haven't answered the quesiton. Since you claimed you made all your parts, where did this Guild company come from making your manifold and now there is another guy who has 40 years of welding experience doing welding? How old is this guy? 60 year old? I don't know if a 60 year old can do nice welding. 60 year old with good eyes and steady hands. wow.. impressive.
Chuck huang
Originally posted by PPC-Racing
yep.. blah blah blah..
"Hey, you should really stop assuming that you are the best fabricator in the whole world and assuming all the people on the forum are ignorant. "
never said I was.. YOU said I was just now, thanks. Also i think your assuming to know what I think about EVERYONE ELSE ON THE NET... now given that you just berated ME for doing the same thing that your doing now...? you probalby have now clue what I'm getting at with this do you kid ?
I never claimed that part to anything but what it was a quikly made part for someone that's it, YOU all assumed it was something else and I guess you all felt the need to MAKE it into something more then it is.
"Now people know your manifold looks like crap and not good as advertised so you want to go back to FRP like you are the most experienced FRP fabricator on the forum?"
Your damn right it looks like crap, it was never suppose to be anything but UTILITY .. do you understand that, it gets the job done, thier may be tonnes of parts out there for a Honda to choose from but this was made for a 1.6L BPT 87 323.. with 3 days notice and one day to build it.. not that I need to expalin this too you, but starting from nothing but one flat sheet of stainless and some mandrel bent tubing and ending up with this at the end of a day is damn good.
"You really don't impress me at all. I don't know about the rest of FC owners but apparently some feel the same as I do. "
yes some do, and all have one thing in common, they either start or end thier comments with the something to do with you and buying cheap parts from you.. I'd like to see how well your received if you sold items that were more expensive.. I doubt you'd have all these kids running to your side to protect the guy making expensive parts.. Your the hero to the cheap people, good for you chuck.
Also the burns part is NOT a header it's a collector only , it's machine made and very simple, it will also not fit in the space that we had to work with on the 323. nioce try though, the Muffler is again a machine welded part cut and fitted on CnC machines. So yes against those Items I think any hand made part, regardless is going to look sloppy. The head welder for the aircraft company who's been doing Tig for 40 years does not have welds as clean as a m,achine.. can't be done.. So yet again your comparison take two completely different spectrums of fabrication and you try to compare them. I guess when you produce a front bumper I should match it up to the Multimatic carbon fiber front end they make for Fords ALMS prototype car.. same type of comparison.. or do you again NOT GET IT!
yep.. blah blah blah..
"Hey, you should really stop assuming that you are the best fabricator in the whole world and assuming all the people on the forum are ignorant. "
never said I was.. YOU said I was just now, thanks. Also i think your assuming to know what I think about EVERYONE ELSE ON THE NET... now given that you just berated ME for doing the same thing that your doing now...? you probalby have now clue what I'm getting at with this do you kid ?
I never claimed that part to anything but what it was a quikly made part for someone that's it, YOU all assumed it was something else and I guess you all felt the need to MAKE it into something more then it is.
"Now people know your manifold looks like crap and not good as advertised so you want to go back to FRP like you are the most experienced FRP fabricator on the forum?"
Your damn right it looks like crap, it was never suppose to be anything but UTILITY .. do you understand that, it gets the job done, thier may be tonnes of parts out there for a Honda to choose from but this was made for a 1.6L BPT 87 323.. with 3 days notice and one day to build it.. not that I need to expalin this too you, but starting from nothing but one flat sheet of stainless and some mandrel bent tubing and ending up with this at the end of a day is damn good.
"You really don't impress me at all. I don't know about the rest of FC owners but apparently some feel the same as I do. "
yes some do, and all have one thing in common, they either start or end thier comments with the something to do with you and buying cheap parts from you.. I'd like to see how well your received if you sold items that were more expensive.. I doubt you'd have all these kids running to your side to protect the guy making expensive parts.. Your the hero to the cheap people, good for you chuck.
Also the burns part is NOT a header it's a collector only , it's machine made and very simple, it will also not fit in the space that we had to work with on the 323. nioce try though, the Muffler is again a machine welded part cut and fitted on CnC machines. So yes against those Items I think any hand made part, regardless is going to look sloppy. The head welder for the aircraft company who's been doing Tig for 40 years does not have welds as clean as a m,achine.. can't be done.. So yet again your comparison take two completely different spectrums of fabrication and you try to compare them. I guess when you produce a front bumper I should match it up to the Multimatic carbon fiber front end they make for Fords ALMS prototype car.. same type of comparison.. or do you again NOT GET IT!
Last edited by rotaryextreme; Mar 19, 2003 at 09:42 AM.
Regardless of what I say or how I say it, you ability to mix/ omit/litteralize contex from any reply to suit your needs is at the point where any response, no matter how basic it is, is moot before it's even finished.. So you go build your crap, i'll go build my crap and leave it at that..
I'd like the contact for the people who hand made that Ti exhaust.
And pray I never have the ungody displeasure of being withing 1000 miles of you, the dumbing down effect it may have on me would be tantamount to a stroke..
I'd like the contact for the people who hand made that Ti exhaust.
And pray I never have the ungody displeasure of being withing 1000 miles of you, the dumbing down effect it may have on me would be tantamount to a stroke..





