rotaryextreme

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Chris:

Yes, every time it gets copied, there is going to be some variation even using the same mold. Let's say if I take the RE one and make a copy of it and you take my copy one and make a copy of it and another guy takes yours to make another copy. The chances are the other guy's copy is going to be like ****.

I am the only one who is willing to spend the money to buy the original to provide the best possible replica. I know a lot of other vendors just waiting for me to copy and then they can buy mine to make another copy so they don't have to buy the original parts which always cost a lot.

I did try to make my own. My first FC product is a hybrid GTC bumper for the 2nd gen which does sell well. Part of it is because we screwed up on the mold and another thing is that either someone hates it or loves it but the bottom line is the 99 spec combo lights cost a lot so it's not very affordable.

In fact, RE Amemiya does know I make replica of their products. I am promoting their products as well. If you read the whole thread carefully, you will see I provide the cheapest prices on original products. I sell both and I just sell you what you want. No one is forcing you into buying replica and save some money.

You can show some real support toward RE Amemiya by buying the original for $1525. Talking here is not going to increase their income. I bought US$30k+ worth of products from them already. I am probably one of their biggest supporters in the US, not by talking but by buying their products to increase their income.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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Sorry man but it costs a lot more than that. If the one with HID is only $300-400, let me buy it from you and I am serious.

Hella 90mm lights: $250
HID: at least $400 for some cheap *** brand but mine is Hella, made in Germany, same ballst used on BMW and Audi
brackets to hold the lights: $100
lexan covers: $100
Total: $850

That's just for lights. Even if I get the bumper made for free, it's still no way close to $300-400 and too bad I don't get it made for free. I have a contractor to make the bumper for me. There is no way I can make all those products on my website myself. I only got 2 hands and 24 hours a day =)

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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BTW, if you want yours to be made in S glass and expoxy resin, send me the resin and fiberglass and I will have it made for you and charging you the same price. This way you know I am not ripping you off on material. Since you already have 18 years of experience, you should know how much epoxy to send and how much fiberglass it's going to take, right Sounds good? =)

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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The hood is two piece. You can swap the top for inlet (stock intercooler) and outlet (front mount intercooler) scoops. We only made the outlet scoop.









Chuck Huang

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20B10AE

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I probably missed it, but what's the time frame look like on the front end, Chuck?

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Chuck,
I think there are way more S4 (86-88) Customers out there than S5 (89-91). Wouldn't it be more profitable to to a S4 fitament Replica of the RE Amemyia FC2000 Bumper? Maybe you should take a poll and add to your market research before you invest! I would hate to see a good endevor go bad (and you don't want to lose any more money on FC products).

Just my 2 cents....

Grizzly

Chuck my hats off to you mate! you have all your bases covered, how can anyone argue with you when your product could possably be better than the orignal.

Do you ship over sea?

Chris

P.S. no i'm not taking the P**s i've just bought Alfs old Ic set up and am after a Fc2000. Call it testing the water.

20B10AE

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I probably missed it, but what's the time frame look like on the front end, Chuck?

edomund

I suggest that everyone who wants the RE bumper and light kit talk to Inukai!

I just bought one from him in January and he only charged me 1280 for it. No lie I'll get his contact info and post pics of me standing next to it.

I was going to wait to post the pics until it was painted, but now that I see it's going to be copied I"ll post pics today.

I know you all bitch about no one making things for the FC and this is why. Eveyone wants rippoff products for cheap prices. If you want good products support the "REAL" manufacturers of FC products.

Also ask Chuck about his relations with Re Ameiya. Inukai told me that RE was in the process of suing him for the knock off stuff.

Inukai said the reason that RE doesn't wnat to deal with North America is because of this right here. People ripping off their countless hours of track testing and
R&D.

Anyway talk to Inukai he can get the real one for only 1280! He is a driver for RE Amemiya so he gets big discounts.

Thanks, ed

Cheers!

Chuck,

any more pics of the GTC front bumper? some close ups? some far away? is it possible to not use the 99spec combo lights and leave them as vents... maybe even brake ducts?

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hawk 7

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How are the lights on the original? Do they suck as bad as Chuck says? If they do Inukai said they were H3 bulbs, could you replace them with Silver Stars and have a decent setup??

West TX RX-7

If you'll look at the KS page they have a pic of the hood painted and on a red FC. It looks like they have some sort of mesh on the underside of the vent areas that would keep out trash and also diffuse a hard rain. You would still get water in there but it would not be pouring in.

88 SE

to rotaryextreme:

Fact seems to be that theres not alot of money to be had in making body parts for FC's. Just a fact of life.

If you ask me, the real money is making cheaper-than Mazda OEM OR something better than OEM, at the same price.

Most FC owners are tightwads (no offence to the tightwads lol)

Node

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So I wasn't too far off. I said $1000-1100
THANK YOU ED!

kep0ne

Chuck, I really hope you do not get discouraged by these people...there are going to be quite a few people who will buy this kit, me being one of them (if the quality is right). The market for our cars is small enough as it is, why scare away people who want to break into it?

edomund

I'm not trying to scare off people trying to make parts for the FC, just people who are ripping off some one else's ideas.

I'm sure if you took the time and effort to get one from Japan you wouldn't want a bunch off knock-off junk replicas running around.

I don't know if you understand the concept of owning a high quality JDM body part like the FC 2000 full cowl. The reason the FC 2000 kit is so sought after is because it is so limited. Thats why I wanted it, no one has it. It's not some knock off that everyone in town has. If we start putting a bunch of rippoff crap on our cars were no better than Honduh ricers.

Chuck go sell your kit you designed and quit ripping everyone else off!

Thanks, Ed

rotaryextreme

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Like I said, if you want to get the original, I sell it too. It's not like I just sell replica and tell everyone to get the replica. Now people have a choice.

On the sideskirts, I told everyone just get the original and I can set up a group buy.

So quit whining. Not everyone can afford it even at $1000. It's not like I am selling it at $150 like those Honda kits. I am makign somethint that have improvement over the original. It's not that cheap so dont worry. You are not going to see 100+ people with them.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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$1280 is to Cali. Sometimes Inukai brings stuff over withi him when he comes to the US. So you have to get luck if he is coming here to bring you the product. Otherwise you will have to pay a lot of money for shipping cost from Japan to US. If you are not in Cali, you will have to pay another shipping cost. I know for sure he does not have an account with the US freight companies. Do yourself a favor and check how much it is to ship a bumper from Cali to East coat. If you don't have an account, it ranges from $200-300.

You are better off buying the original from me since I use the container and you don't have to wait for him to bring you the product. How many bumpers can he bring with him anyways? You think he can bring 10 bumpers with him onto the airplane?

The fact is neither my replica or the original is very affordable. I am not going to sell it for cheap. I want to use better component than those cheap IPF fog lights.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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I did try to make my own and it did not sell. After I made my own GTC FC bumper, people say they want the RE FC2002.

My product is not junk. Trust me. When it's done, you are more than welcome to come over and do a side by side comparison on the lighting performance. The HID light will make you your IPF lights like a flash light.

FC2002 is limited just because it's expensive. I can bring you 10-20 of those if you pay me. My replica is not that cheap so you are not going to see everyone with it. But if someone other vendor bought one from me and then make a replica of it and using some junk lights, then maybe you will see a lot of those on the street.

It's just the price that makes it limited. Nothing else. It's very easy for me to get stuff from Japan. I use our own container. To me JDM stuff is just like buying grocery next door. Nothing special about it.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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I was about to give up on the FC market. The only reason I am making this bumper is because I have promised my ex GTC FC bumper buyer that I will get something that he wants other than the GTC. That's the story. After I see the junk IPF lights RE Amemiya is using on the bumper, I know for sure that I can improve the lighting on it.

So if you think of it, I am making something better than the original. If they are pissed because they spend tons of money buying the original and still get a poor performance product, I feel sorry for them but there is nothing they can do to push me into using some cheap components.

Go do a search on my light kit on the 3rd gen. It's the most sought after product. I am using my experience on the 3rd gen light kit on the 2nd gen bumper. You are not going to be disappointed. You will thank me everytime you turn on your HID headlight and I can promise you that.

Chuck Huang

rotaryextreme

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I don't make it anymore, period. After tons of people posting on the forum saying how fugly it is, I totally gave up on it. Sorry about it.

Chuck Huang

West TX RX-7

Hmm, I actually thought the GTC was a slick looking front end. What made it especially interesting is that it is only made for the 3rd gen and Chuck had it molded to fit the 2nd gen. The only problem I had with it was that they were having a hard time getting the mold to work out right for the 2nd gen transformation and it wasn't a perfect fit.

There is a guy on this forum who has that front end though and did some bodywork to make it fit nice on his FC and it's the ****!! I believe it's painted black and he is running the 3rd gen turn signals. Looks like he has a one of a kind now. How's that for unique.

If I can find the picture of his car i'll post it.

Piranha

Uhm, this kit is still expensive.... 1000 for the ok lights plus? And then paint and fitment? I don't know how you think this is going to make it any less rare... No one is making YOU put anything on your car, let people do what they want. You sound like a worried hen.

hIGGI

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Inukai could bring 2 bumpers on plane for sure

Jusrollin1

Well.. first i have to get my RX-7 FC3S model running before i think about making purchases like this. ALthough i'm wondering how that thing bolts up...