my turbo'd 6 port, first drive
05-05-04, 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Sesshoumaru
prolly forgot......read it yesterday........
prolly forgot......read it yesterday........
05-05-04, 01:52 PM
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Personally I think you're going about that the wrong way... and it's asking for a poped motor either in tunning or shortly thereafter. The highest load is preciesly where you don't want a AFR over 12.
At the very most you should be tunning for high 11's.
Driving on the street with the uncertainties of gas and your high comp motor... I just think 12 is asking for trouble.
Just my $.02
At the very most you should be tunning for high 11's.
Driving on the street with the uncertainties of gas and your high comp motor... I just think 12 is asking for trouble.
Just my $.02
05-05-04, 02:27 PM
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Very cool. I always like seeing other's turbo NA pictures to see what they did better/worse then me, and their version of things...Sounds like you're pretty happy. 
Gotta' love that instant spool, eh? There's just something cool about getting full boost revving in neutral. So much for anti-lag. 
Gotta' love that instant spool, eh? There's just something cool about getting full boost revving in neutral. So much for anti-lag.
05-05-04, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Aaron Cake
Very cool. I always like seeing other's turbo NA pictures to see what they did better/worse then me, and their version of things...Sounds like you're pretty happy. Gotta' love that instant spool, eh? There's just something cool about getting full boost revving in neutral. So much for anti-lag.
Very cool. I always like seeing other's turbo NA pictures to see what they did better/worse then me, and their version of things...Sounds like you're pretty happy.
Gotta' love that instant spool, eh? There's just something cool about getting full boost revving in neutral. So much for anti-lag.
05-05-04, 02:49 PM
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My timing was actually several degrees advance from stock. 
Under boost my car was being drowned in fuel, which kept detonation under control at the expense of a little power. I'm now going to the Microtech for full control of everything...of course, the engine is bridgeported, so that's probably a necessity.
Under boost my car was being drowned in fuel, which kept detonation under control at the expense of a little power. I'm now going to the Microtech for full control of everything...of course, the engine is bridgeported, so that's probably a necessity.
05-05-04, 03:03 PM
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the only thing i wish I could've done differently was to maybe have the turbo sit about 2 inches forward more, either by having the pipes cut at an angle like that or etc, I think it would've gave me a hell of a lot more room to fit everything in. Oh well, I used your page for almost all of the information. Mounting that thing surely was a pain in the ***, had to hold it in place, slide the bolts through the manifold, put the nuts on them, then go around trying to fit a 17mm into those spots was a nightmare. Well worth it though! What ACT clutch are you going with? (from your 6 month report)
05-05-04, 03:34 PM
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Mounting the turbo...Talk about a nightmare! I had to custom make my own stubby wrench, then tighten with a hammer and drift...
As for clutches, I am no longer going with the ACT. There is a local company that can make custom "special" clutches for any application. They supply local race teams, and prices significantly under the "name brands". So I'm getting one of theirs...Whatever they recommend is what I will go with.
As for clutches, I am no longer going with the ACT. There is a local company that can make custom "special" clutches for any application. They supply local race teams, and prices significantly under the "name brands". So I'm getting one of theirs...Whatever they recommend is what I will go with.
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Cool
I think I want to turbo my N/A now.
My prime concern is gas mileage. I get 18-21 miles per gallon regularly, no joke, I have no idea how.
What kind of gas mileage do you get aaron/sonic?
thx
I think I want to turbo my N/A now.
My prime concern is gas mileage. I get 18-21 miles per gallon regularly, no joke, I have no idea how.
What kind of gas mileage do you get aaron/sonic?
thx
05-06-04, 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Sesshoumaru
I personally would shoot for 10.5 under load to be safe.
I personally would shoot for 10.5 under load to be safe.
05-06-04, 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Gotenks
Cool
I think I want to turbo my N/A now.
My prime concern is gas mileage. I get 18-21 miles per gallon regularly, no joke, I have no idea how.
What kind of gas mileage do you get aaron/sonic?
thx
Cool
I think I want to turbo my N/A now.
My prime concern is gas mileage. I get 18-21 miles per gallon regularly, no joke, I have no idea how.
What kind of gas mileage do you get aaron/sonic?
thx
Now, with the S4 and it's 1/4 range TPS, you can have an issue. If you have your high throttle map on the S-AFC set to fuel for boost, and you are cruising at above 1/4 throttle (according to the TPS), you will be WAY rich...This can be solved by upgrading to an S5 throttle, or referenceing the S-AFC to boost instead (a very neat trick).
In the city, mileage sucked because I couldn't say off boost.
05-06-04, 10:30 PM
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id stay in the 11s, not that i know a-whole-lot about tuning. VERY nice job ont he conversion.
One thing I would like you to go into more detail is the pressure oil source. I see that it is on the oil filter stand (fromt eh looks), care to elaborate? Another is your water sources, where to and from? Thanks!!
One thing I would like you to go into more detail is the pressure oil source. I see that it is on the oil filter stand (fromt eh looks), care to elaborate? Another is your water sources, where to and from? Thanks!!
05-06-04, 11:02 PM
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sonicrat congrats dude. Good luck with it. Thats nice u have a WB02. I dont know if they have a website but try a company called "Flowline" for any custom braided steel lines. Their pretty cheap and real helpful.
If you cant find anything, im sure there's someone local. Try the phone book for hydrolic shops or refridgerator places. Oh, and i love the homedepot couples u have connecting the intercooler pipe to the TB. Nice.
-Ryan
sonicrat congrats dude. Good luck with it. Thats nice u have a WB02. I dont know if they have a website but try a company called "Flowline" for any custom braided steel lines. Their pretty cheap and real helpful.
If you cant find anything, im sure there's someone local. Try the phone book for hydrolic shops or refridgerator places. Oh, and i love the homedepot couples u have connecting the intercooler pipe to the TB. Nice.
-Ryan
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05-07-04, 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by Roy James
One thing I would like you to go into more detail is the pressure oil source. I see that it is on the oil filter stand (fromt eh looks), care to elaborate? Another is your water sources, where to and from? Thanks!!
One thing I would like you to go into more detail is the pressure oil source. I see that it is on the oil filter stand (fromt eh looks), care to elaborate? Another is your water sources, where to and from? Thanks!!
05-07-04, 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Aaron Cake
The most convenient water source is the line that goes to the throttle body.
The most convenient water source is the line that goes to the throttle body.
My setup is going to be with a TII block, S4N/A rotors, S4 Turbo and manifold, S4 TII intake manifold(jspec if it matters), S4 TII IC (yeah yeah i know they SUCK
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05-07-04, 05:34 PM
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You could just drill/tap the front cover with the oil pan removed and find a hose big enough to work as the drain and then bolt in a barb that size. As for the oil feed, I obtained that from the atkins website for the supercharges, just drilled and tapped the OIL pedistal. I'll explain better in a little bit.
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I was thinking about the oil feed and came up with an idea. Racing Beat has an adapter that goes under the oil filter so that installation of oil pressure and temperature gauges is easy. Basically it is a block that has holes that are threaded for the temperature and pressure gauge senders to screw into, here it is.
Now, I am only using a oil temperature gauge currently with this adapter, so the 2nd hole that is in it for the 2nd gauge I just plugged with a brass plumbing plug from Home Depot. I was thinking, if you put some kind of adapter on there that has a nipple coming out, you could run that over to the turbo for an easy way to supply oil, couldnt you? Then all you really have to worry about (for oil) is a return. This would make it so no drilling is required for the sending, just a thought
Now, I am only using a oil temperature gauge currently with this adapter, so the 2nd hole that is in it for the 2nd gauge I just plugged with a brass plumbing plug from Home Depot. I was thinking, if you put some kind of adapter on there that has a nipple coming out, you could run that over to the turbo for an easy way to supply oil, couldnt you? Then all you really have to worry about (for oil) is a return. This would make it so no drilling is required for the sending, just a thought
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Originally posted by shiftnmadkwik
yeah that would work awsome just a lil $$
yeah that would work awsome just a lil $$
Yah that's true, but I already have it for my oil temp gauge. Plus, if you're going to go turbo and want an oil temp or oil pressure gauge (one) this would be a nice little adapter.
05-07-04, 06:43 PM
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yea def, rat i was just wondering what your manifold design was, did you weld it up yourself or mod one? also does your fmic have entry and exit along the left side or did you run pipe to the right side?
05-07-04, 07:05 PM
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I ran a pipe accross. I was going to go through the drivers side area, but I was in a hurry and didn't have time for anybody to change the IC around. I made the manifold myself, same as aaron's, two RB flanges with pipe welded inbetween to make it 2.5" total. Yes, using a oil pedistal will work, I didn't have one, so I couldn't do that.