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Yeah, I'm in the same boat as aaron, anything over 4psi in 2nd gear and the clutch bails on me. Any specific 6puck you prefer? Or ACT straight up? I'm debating mazdatrix or ACT.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as aaron, anything over 4psi in 2nd gear and the clutch bails on me. Any specific 6puck you prefer? Or ACT straight up? I'm debating mazdatrix or ACT.
FYI: Racingbeat and Mazdatrix don't actually make their own "race disks". They just sell Clutchnet disks and don't tell anyone. You figure that out pretty easily when the clutch arrives.
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Originally posted by scathcart
Try the Clutchnet 4 or 6-puck discs with a sprung center. They aren't too harsh when used with a stock pressure plate, and they hold plenty of power.
FYI: Racingbeat and Mazdatrix don't actually make their own "race disks". They just sell Clutchnet disks and don't tell anyone. You figure that out pretty easily when the clutch arrives.
Try the Clutchnet 4 or 6-puck discs with a sprung center. They aren't too harsh when used with a stock pressure plate, and they hold plenty of power.
FYI: Racingbeat and Mazdatrix don't actually make their own "race disks". They just sell Clutchnet disks and don't tell anyone. You figure that out pretty easily when the clutch arrives.
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I've set these clutches (4 puck sprung) up to be used with 75 shots on N/A's using the stock pressure plate, and haven't heard anything bad coming back.
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Thanks for the input yet again. I think i'll go with a 6 puck on my stock pressure plate (resurfaced of course) and if I get any slip/problems I'll just go with an upgraded pressure plate.
Any suggestions on a source for a 6 puck? I can't seem to find any sprung 6 pucks.
Any suggestions on a source for a 6 puck? I can't seem to find any sprung 6 pucks.
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From what I have heard, it doesn't make too much of a difference. I have a ACT unsprung 6-puck in my AE, and it is very streetable. Takes alittle getting used to though, but this clutch has seen over 400rwhp and 11 sec 1/4 miles without a bit of slipping.
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Yeah, I'm actually sourcing stainless lines to swap over to, I just didn't have the money at the time to buy all of that and I needed to get it done quickly. IIRC it was designed for high pressure oil coolers, so it shouldn't break down, but I still don't trust it much and i'm keeping an eye on it.
Yeah, I'm actually sourcing stainless lines to swap over to, I just didn't have the money at the time to buy all of that and I needed to get it done quickly. IIRC it was designed for high pressure oil coolers, so it shouldn't break down, but I still don't trust it much and i'm keeping an eye on it.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=oil+return
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Yeah, I'm copying your return, but I'm trying to figure out a way to do the feed in stainless, since us poor N/A folk don't have the metal hardlines to pump the oil in. Any ideas on this?
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Originally posted by SonicRaT
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as aaron, anything over 4psi in 2nd gear and the clutch bails on me. Any specific 6puck you prefer? Or ACT straight up? I'm debating mazdatrix or ACT.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as aaron, anything over 4psi in 2nd gear and the clutch bails on me. Any specific 6puck you prefer? Or ACT straight up? I'm debating mazdatrix or ACT.
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Originally posted by SonicRaT
Thanks for the input yet again. I think i'll go with a 6 puck on my stock pressure plate (resurfaced of course) and if I get any slip/problems I'll just go with an upgraded pressure plate.
Any suggestions on a source for a 6 puck? I can't seem to find any sprung 6 pucks.
Thanks for the input yet again. I think i'll go with a 6 puck on my stock pressure plate (resurfaced of course) and if I get any slip/problems I'll just go with an upgraded pressure plate.
Any suggestions on a source for a 6 puck? I can't seem to find any sprung 6 pucks.
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Originally posted by scathcart
Clutchnet.com
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I'd go with a centerforce dual friction clutch unless you plan on upwards of 300 hp @ the crank. It will feel like a stock clutch and should hold that power fine without abuse (i.e. drag racing every weekend). Religious break-in is key to the CFDF clutch - go easy for 500 miles and it will reward you.
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Do they have pricing anywhere on the site, or do I have to call them? Also, which would suit me better, 4 or 6?
Do they have pricing anywhere on the site, or do I have to call them? Also, which would suit me better, 4 or 6?
They are around $130 for a disk.
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Originally posted by jon88se
I'd go with a centerforce dual friction clutch unless you plan on upwards of 300 hp @ the crank. It will feel like a stock clutch and should hold that power fine without abuse (i.e. drag racing every weekend). Religious break-in is key to the CFDF clutch - go easy for 500 miles and it will reward you.
I'd go with a centerforce dual friction clutch unless you plan on upwards of 300 hp @ the crank. It will feel like a stock clutch and should hold that power fine without abuse (i.e. drag racing every weekend). Religious break-in is key to the CFDF clutch - go easy for 500 miles and it will reward you.
Thanks for the info scathcart, that's probably the route I'll be taking. If it slips at all on the higher band I'll upgrade the pressure plate and that should take care of it.
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Originally posted by scathcart
I don't. Silicone hosing breaks down extremely fast when subjected to petroleum products. Couple this with 70+psi of oil pressure, and you just made a very big mess at the very least, and spun rotor, stationary, and turbo bearings at the worst.
I don't. Silicone hosing breaks down extremely fast when subjected to petroleum products. Couple this with 70+psi of oil pressure, and you just made a very big mess at the very least, and spun rotor, stationary, and turbo bearings at the worst.
I was just going on what I was told by the hose place I went to. Either way my rubber line **** itself pretty quick.. Just got too hot I imagine.
Can you get silicone covered rubber hose or something then? Maybe thats what this hose place was on about..
Ah I dunno...
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Originally posted by White_FC
Wow interesting..
I was just going on what I was told by the hose place I went to. Either way my rubber line **** itself pretty quick.. Just got too hot I imagine.
Can you get silicone covered rubber hose or something then? Maybe thats what this hose place was on about..
Ah I dunno...
Wow interesting..
I was just going on what I was told by the hose place I went to. Either way my rubber line **** itself pretty quick.. Just got too hot I imagine.
Can you get silicone covered rubber hose or something then? Maybe thats what this hose place was on about..
Ah I dunno...
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Can you list what parts you had to add or change to make this work
Can you list what parts you had to add or change to make this work. I think I am going to take the plung also. I have gone to the only site I have found to see one done, I just wanted to know if you used it as a guide or did something different. http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/naturbo.htm 'This was the page'
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Originally posted by SonicRaT
What turbo are you running? I've got a s5 in mine and the rear of it was pretty close to the frame so I hammered in an area for clearance, but my wastegate fit perfectly after i cut off the squared corners of the bracket. Pictures soon, I hope!
What turbo are you running? I've got a s5 in mine and the rear of it was pretty close to the frame so I hammered in an area for clearance, but my wastegate fit perfectly after i cut off the squared corners of the bracket. Pictures soon, I hope!
So my setup is a bit different.. Will be putting probably a T04B on it in the not too distant future though.
I've also always had a custom steam pipe manifold the whole time, so I never had to cut the chasis rail either to fit the wastegate.. Which, IMHO at least, is a rather dodgy thing to be doing just the fit the wastegate in without modifying that first...
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Originally posted by White_FC
Wow interesting..
I was just going on what I was told by the hose place I went to. Either way my rubber line **** itself pretty quick.. Just got too hot I imagine.
Can you get silicone covered rubber hose or something then? Maybe thats what this hose place was on about..
Ah I dunno...
Wow interesting..
I was just going on what I was told by the hose place I went to. Either way my rubber line **** itself pretty quick.. Just got too hot I imagine.
Can you get silicone covered rubber hose or something then? Maybe thats what this hose place was on about..
Ah I dunno...
That's what I have for my Coolant pickup line.
It's supposed to be stronger and more heat resistant.
Just make sure you get the hose which is for your application.
I've found ones which say for coolant only and others for oil only.
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Wow a crazy array of posts!
pd_day: I'm using a s5 turbo, and the wastegate fit pretty much perfectly in the stock location, I just had to remove the square edges of the bracket that it sits on and it fit perfectly, I had to put it on AFTER the turbo was mounted, with the oil return line OFF. It fits just fine/works fine. The oil return line goes to the stock Turbo return (i've got a turbo II front cover installed) Figured it was easier than removing the oil pan/etc, and I had to fix some low oil pressure issues anyway.
miketried: I'm emissionsless, I've got nothing on the car except for about 5 vacuum lines. Also, the home depot boost controller is a ball/spring controller built from different fittings at home depot. I've got a link somewhere I'll dig up for you.
Wankel7: lol, nice avatar. Anyway, the unit's working pretty good, i've got the display mounted in the center of my gauge cluster so I can't really miss what's going on, other than it's warm up procedure i have absolutely no complaints. I bought a prebuilt, too lazy to do it myself.
Now time for some pictures! Also, first person to make fun of how ugly the car looks, or how ghetto rigged it is gets an apex through the heart. I know just how rigged and how ugly it is, I don't need to be reminded.
pd_day: I'm using a s5 turbo, and the wastegate fit pretty much perfectly in the stock location, I just had to remove the square edges of the bracket that it sits on and it fit perfectly, I had to put it on AFTER the turbo was mounted, with the oil return line OFF. It fits just fine/works fine. The oil return line goes to the stock Turbo return (i've got a turbo II front cover installed) Figured it was easier than removing the oil pan/etc, and I had to fix some low oil pressure issues anyway.
miketried: I'm emissionsless, I've got nothing on the car except for about 5 vacuum lines. Also, the home depot boost controller is a ball/spring controller built from different fittings at home depot. I've got a link somewhere I'll dig up for you.
Wankel7: lol, nice avatar. Anyway, the unit's working pretty good, i've got the display mounted in the center of my gauge cluster so I can't really miss what's going on, other than it's warm up procedure i have absolutely no complaints. I bought a prebuilt, too lazy to do it myself.
Now time for some pictures! Also, first person to make fun of how ugly the car looks, or how ghetto rigged it is gets an apex through the heart. I know just how rigged and how ugly it is, I don't need to be reminded.