2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

my 1990 FC and my Brother

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-18-03, 03:25 AM
  #1  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Grants Pass, oregon
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my 1990 FC and my Brother

ok so while i was at work my little brother who is in love with my car went to go start it and let it run like i do to make sure the seals are still good (i dont trust my second gen) and he starts it up then .....after about 5 seconds he says he turned it off......im thinkin oh ****..........he flooded it...sure enough i get home and its flooded. i took out the egi fuse and tried that 10 times.....should i do the atf trick or what?
how do i get my hand on a fuel cut off switch?
also has anyone ever tried puttin 2 cycle gear oil into your gas tank? would that hurt anyhting?
Old 04-18-03, 03:30 AM
  #2  
Junior Member

 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
When I flooded my car and the egi fuse trick didnt work I used some atf, and after about 10 more tries, i got it started...and filled my block with smoke. But I think I heard the atf isnt good for your motor or sumthin, not sure what an alternative would be.
Old 04-18-03, 03:51 AM
  #3  
Senior Member

 
rx_7_driver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
Posts: 717
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if the egi fuse dosen't work there r many other ways to unflood it, the on i use is:
remove egi fuse, remove spark plugs, (please don't smoke anywhere around the car) turn engine over for about 10sec. 5 times with 10sec breaks in between, dry spark plugs and reinstall, put egi fuse back in and attempt to start


-Shawn
Old 04-18-03, 04:02 AM
  #4  
We come with the Hardcore

iTrader: (2)
 
Liquid Anarchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 2,456
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
use the above method, but put a little (teaspoon) MMO or something of the sort in the comustion chambers while you have your plugs out. It will help build compression, and the fuel strips the oil from the rotor housings, so lube em' up while your there
Old 04-18-03, 04:50 AM
  #5  
pei > caek

 
dr0x's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Mars
Posts: 4,643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Dont even bother if you have a weak battery either.
Old 04-18-03, 05:18 AM
  #6  
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Parkersburg, West Virginia
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
not trying to be offensive, but in love with your car or not, why did you give him access to your keys? I live a with a friend of mine who's 15 going on 16 and I've only even let him in that side of the car once...
Old 04-18-03, 07:11 AM
  #7  
Despise Enmity

 
Josepi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 2,420
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You have a 90. ONLY on the S5s can you turn the key till the idiot lights come on, gas pedal to floor, crank. The S5 ECU knows that your trying to deflood it and will cut the flow of gas.

S4s attempting to do this will just get more flooded.
Old 04-18-03, 07:32 AM
  #8  
brap brap

 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Migrated back to Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Only time you won't to really use 2-stroke is when you block of the OMP that way oil isn't really running your car like it would..... otherwise it's useless. There is a thread about switching to 2-stroke. I forget which thread, but go to search and type in "2-stroke" - read up on it before you decide to do it. There are and have been some problems that I've seen in person with it....


To unflood your car, do the ATF trick, normally that works...
Old 04-18-03, 09:24 AM
  #9  
Eat, sleep, work, mod.

 
jon88se's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Long Island
Posts: 2,517
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
on S4 FC's the easiest possible way is to crimp the fuel line...
Old 04-18-03, 09:36 AM
  #10  
brap brap

 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Migrated back to Gulf Breeze, FL
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
crimp the fuel line? Stupid question ,.....but what does that do?
Old 04-18-03, 09:53 AM
  #11  
Just Call Me Terminator!

iTrader: (4)
 
vosko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
so it doesn't get any gas. i just unflooded a FD for a friend. pulled egi fuse. cranked for 30 seconds did it 5 times. car started without a problem. it burnt off all that gas in a hurry too killing all mosquitos in a 1 mile radius
Old 04-18-03, 09:54 AM
  #12  
I wish I had a posse...

 
ZachSpazz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio-Boycott Central
Posts: 896
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by christi
crimp the fuel line? Stupid question ,.....but what does that do?
Create a potential for fuel leaks.

The unflooding procedure I used when I had an S4 GXL, was this.

1. Pull EGI fuse
2. Floor accelerator and crank the engine in 10 second bursts about 3-5 times.
3. Replace EGI fuse and crank the engine while flooring the accelerator.

This worked 90% of the time. If it didn't, I would just start over and pray.
Old 04-18-03, 09:59 AM
  #13  
Just Call Me Terminator!

iTrader: (4)
 
vosko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,848
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i have unflooded S4's and S5's i never had to floor it. it would start up after it started i had to give it some gas to clear up the plugs then it would be fine. you can do the hold the gas pedal down to start a S5 when its flooded only a little. otherwise out comes the fuse. my 89 TII had a bad flooding problem. the more i drove the better it got and eventually the flooding problem went away
Old 04-18-03, 10:51 AM
  #14  
Senior Member

 
RyosukeTakahashi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 426
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Josepi
You have a 90. ONLY on the S5s can you turn the key till the idiot lights come on, gas pedal to floor, crank. The S5 ECU knows that your trying to deflood it and will cut the flow of gas.

S4s attempting to do this will just get more flooded.
whoa man, I always put the gas to the floor and try cranking her up. Thats what I was told to do by the rotory guy at a mazda dealer. I've never needed to do the fuse stuff or what not. But that was with my old engine.
Old 04-19-03, 01:43 AM
  #15  
Full Member

Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Grants Pass, oregon
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i dont drive my car cause i dont have insurance so my parents have my keys..i found out later that my brother snuck into my parents room to get the keys to impress his friends of his brothers new car....dumbass, i did the atf trick but the only thing that seems to work is by pull starting it....?!
Old 04-19-03, 03:06 AM
  #16  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Atlanta.Georgia
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
rx7 driver knows his junk. lol there u go!
Old 04-19-03, 03:08 AM
  #17  
3rd gen junkie

 
FCdemon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: san diego
Posts: 604
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Josepi
You have a 90. ONLY on the S5s can you turn the key till the idiot lights come on, gas pedal to floor, crank. The S5 ECU knows that your trying to deflood it and will cut the flow of gas.

S4s attempting to do this will just get more flooded.
not true. I can hot-start my S4 with the pedal trick just like an S5.
Old 04-19-03, 03:12 AM
  #18  
Super Raterhater

iTrader: (6)
 
SonicRaT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: NY, MA, MI, OR, TX, and now LA or AZ!
Posts: 10,624
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally posted by FCdemon
not true. I can hot-start my S4 with the pedal trick just like an S5.
He's right in the sense that only series5 had the fuel cut-off programmed in the ecu, however it does help start some cars even by holding it full open (such as the series 4's when they're flooded) Sometimes it works, sometimes it makes it worse
Old 04-19-03, 09:43 AM
  #19  
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
steve's dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Bloomington, IN
Posts: 359
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
describe what you're doing for the egi fuse, becuase for me it works every time.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mulcryant
General Rotary Tech Support
5
10-04-15 12:18 AM
NickNac113
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
13
10-01-15 09:25 PM
rx7inoregon
Old School and Other Rotary
5
10-01-15 12:44 PM
rxlevi7
New Member RX-7 Technical
4
09-26-15 07:28 AM



Quick Reply: my 1990 FC and my Brother



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:45 PM.