Interest in 6port N/A turbo kits
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I always thought you couldnt turbo an n/a due to reliability issues and such. Do your thing man and ill buy it if it really works. first i need a rebuild. so Kevin here I come.
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I already have a turbo n/a, and have put over 20k miles on it without a hiccup. It can be done, has been done, and will be done more often!
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
All of this information I will attempt to provide. I plan on installing it (or having a few friends) and taking it to the dyno before and after, as well as possibly the dragstrip to get some 'bench' times as well as some genreal ideas of what each setup can do.
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other than fuel and an intercooler, what would someone need beyond this kit?
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
Does that answer your question?
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Edit...Not trying to shoot you down, but I have had a streak of realism lately.
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WTF just because i dont have 9,999,999 posts means you gotta do this!! so what if i dont know everything there is to know about all of this!seriously man how am i supposed to learn if i dont ask?
These kinds of questions imply by their very nature a lack of knowledge of the subject material at hand and a general lack of mechanical experience. I know everybody learns somehow, including myself. There was a time when I didnt know all of this stuff, either. The key is not to make yourself look like too much of a newb/fool during the time you're learning. The best way to learn is to READ. I'm a very independent type with a lot of pride, and I like to serve myself whenever possible versus relying on others...this approach has worked well for me. Just keep in mind the old saying, better to remain silent and be thought a dumbass than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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this kinda stuff makes people go the other way, because im a so called "dragster", yeah thats funny as **** huh, why else would some people want to buy this? maybe for there grandma to drive to the grocery store.
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
and most of these cars are less than well maintained...in fact, most are flat worn out. Most of these cars have 125-175k miles and have been beaten on, again and again, for the last 13-18 years.
Unfortunately I know that all too well
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Every time I fix one thing a new little issue arises to cause me more trouble. Not only that but from everything I've seen on my car so far during my modifying process, the past owner/s beat the **** out of this car but kept the exterior looking find. So basically everything looked fine on it, until you start opening it up, or taking things apart, or diagnosing problems. Guess I shouldn't have judged my car on its looks, but it was hard to check everything out on the spot (drove a good 2 hrs to get my car).
As far as the whole quest for power goes, there's nothing wrong with that. The problem a lot of people make, though, is they do it before their cars are healthy and in good working order. I made this mistake in the beginning, I started modifying when things weren't up to par, and well I paid for it. Lately I haven't even been modifying it except for fixing things or replacing old/worn parts.
Get the car in good order if it's not already, then go for speed
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yeah, i know you guys are right. ive been slowly doing all the little parts that are worn out getting it back to shape, but my 7 has only 42,000 miles on it(shell and motor) and i figure from this the motor should be strong enough for this project. the car was maintained very well and was a wedding gift for the previous owner which ive known for a very long time and they knew more about these cars than i did and took great care of it. bushings and what not,fluids,shocks all need replaced but all in all its a solid 7. so thats why im very interested in this project. and when you get the experienced flaming you because they think im a 15 year old punk with a crappy almost blown up 7 trying to drag it and ruin the car like most do you should ask these things about us, i luv this forum im on it all the time at least twice a day reading and learning and i feel this is the best option givin my checkbook/location of living and all that crap,being said id like to see this project go and be one of the veterans of a 2nd gen., kickin ***.so please forgive my outburst and carry on.
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How about a Whipple Supercharger Kit with an intercooler & low rpm bypass? Sell one of those. It would let us N/A guys be different than the Turbo guys & still have some horses. It could ignite an all new battle SC vs. Turbo.
It is just a tough pill for me to swallow realizing that my little N/A just can't compete with a Turbo because it was an inferior design in the power department, that bitter pill is offset by my N/A being very reliable & fun to drive. It would be supersweet if I could actually buy a kit to do something about it (& don't say Camden S/C either!) while maintaining some degree of streetability for a Daily Driver. Something in the 250HP+ ???
Do I have to design my own Bloody Thing?!? By God if someone doesn't do something soon I'm gonna go Nutz & start inventing new stuff for an old & inferior design!
Sorry ... just venting pent up N/A anxiety. How can I justify fixing up the old girl if she's gonna get stomped on by some Ricer Honda? I inherited my fathers Rx-7. It was his baby. It has a certain sentimental connection. I want it to be "all it could be". If a Turbo Kit was REALLY available I wouldn't mind spending several 1000 $$$$ on it. What other options are there? Nitrous might do the trick, but it would be like a Crack addiction or something. Anyway that's my $.02
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It is just a tough pill for me to swallow realizing that my little N/A just can't compete with a Turbo because it was an inferior design in the power department, that bitter pill is offset by my N/A being very reliable & fun to drive. It would be supersweet if I could actually buy a kit to do something about it (& don't say Camden S/C either!) while maintaining some degree of streetability for a Daily Driver. Something in the 250HP+ ???
Do I have to design my own Bloody Thing?!? By God if someone doesn't do something soon I'm gonna go Nutz & start inventing new stuff for an old & inferior design!
Sorry ... just venting pent up N/A anxiety. How can I justify fixing up the old girl if she's gonna get stomped on by some Ricer Honda? I inherited my fathers Rx-7. It was his baby. It has a certain sentimental connection. I want it to be "all it could be". If a Turbo Kit was REALLY available I wouldn't mind spending several 1000 $$$$ on it. What other options are there? Nitrous might do the trick, but it would be like a Crack addiction or something. Anyway that's my $.02
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Originally Posted by ramses666
How about a Whipple Supercharger Kit with an intercooler & low rpm bypass? Sell one of those. It would let us N/A guys be different than the Turbo guys & still have some horses. It could ignite an all new battle SC vs. Turbo.
It is just a tough pill for me to swallow realizing that my little N/A just can't compete with a Turbo because it was an inferior design in the power department, that bitter pill is offset by my N/A being very reliable & fun to drive. It would be supersweet if I could actually buy a kit to do something about it (& don't say Camden S/C either!) while maintaining some degree of streetability for a Daily Driver. Something in the 250HP+ ???
Do I have to design my own Bloody Thing?!? By God if someone doesn't do something soon I'm gonna go Nutz & start inventing new stuff for an old & inferior design!
Sorry ... just venting pent up N/A anxiety. How can I justify fixing up the old girl if she's gonna get stomped on by some Ricer Honda? I inherited my fathers Rx-7. It was his baby. It has a certain sentimental connection. I want it to be "all it could be". If a Turbo Kit was REALLY available I wouldn't mind spending several 1000 $$$$ on it. What other options are there? Nitrous might do the trick, but it would be like a Crack addiction or something. Anyway that's my $.02
Ramses666
It is just a tough pill for me to swallow realizing that my little N/A just can't compete with a Turbo because it was an inferior design in the power department, that bitter pill is offset by my N/A being very reliable & fun to drive. It would be supersweet if I could actually buy a kit to do something about it (& don't say Camden S/C either!) while maintaining some degree of streetability for a Daily Driver. Something in the 250HP+ ???
Do I have to design my own Bloody Thing?!? By God if someone doesn't do something soon I'm gonna go Nutz & start inventing new stuff for an old & inferior design!
Sorry ... just venting pent up N/A anxiety. How can I justify fixing up the old girl if she's gonna get stomped on by some Ricer Honda? I inherited my fathers Rx-7. It was his baby. It has a certain sentimental connection. I want it to be "all it could be". If a Turbo Kit was REALLY available I wouldn't mind spending several 1000 $$$$ on it. What other options are there? Nitrous might do the trick, but it would be like a Crack addiction or something. Anyway that's my $.02
Ramses666
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You have my attention at the most opportune moment, Sonic.
As it stands now, I have already swapped a turbo drivtrain (less motor) into my vert and am already saving up to build a turbo motor. I am currently running the original (and still running well @ 150k) motor.
Now I wonder: should I rebuild the n/a and turbo it, or build my turbo motor as planned? I already plan on going standalone (microtech) and use an fmic as well as all fuel mods to support it.
I realize I would be settling for less RWHP, but at the same time I think reliability & the "unique factor" of this setup are enough to make me want to inquire further...
As it stands now, I have already swapped a turbo drivtrain (less motor) into my vert and am already saving up to build a turbo motor. I am currently running the original (and still running well @ 150k) motor.
Now I wonder: should I rebuild the n/a and turbo it, or build my turbo motor as planned? I already plan on going standalone (microtech) and use an fmic as well as all fuel mods to support it.
I realize I would be settling for less RWHP, but at the same time I think reliability & the "unique factor" of this setup are enough to make me want to inquire further...
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Originally Posted by staticguitar313
so many people say turboed n/a car are unreliable, i think its more to do with poor tuning and preparation, and absence of common sense, how far along is this process anyways? still going to offer separate parts?
As for reliability, yes the dangers of detonating exist, but it can be avoided by some common sense and proper tuning. Figure that 10psi on a 6port block is about 12psi on a turbo block, so you can't just automatically assume that the same PSI results in the same power/reliability. I've got well over 20k miles on my first turbo'd car, which is running a BNR stage 3 hybrid, I have continuously beat the crap out of that poor car and it's stuck with me, mostly due to proper tuning and knowing limitations.
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I don't have any pictures of supercharger setups, mainly because I just do them as a customer wants and then leave it behind and head for home. As for pictures of this newest setup, I'm currently stuck in Boston and my cars are in Michigan, thus at the moment, no pictures, but that's ok anyway since I'm changing this so much based upon feedback that pictures wouldn't serve much purpose at this point. Once I finalize everything people have suggested and the changes I wish to make, and produce a setup like this, then I'll provide everyone with the pictures/etc so they can judge for themselves on the 'final' product, and not a strung together beta.