HadesMR

Hey,
First I'll introduce myself as this is my first post on this forum. My name's Badui (it's Lebanese for those of you who care to know). I'm 22 years old and I'm from Miami, FL. I like all types of sport compact cars and just recently got a 1989 FC from a friend for free. I've been doing some research, searching forums, google, so on and so forth. I don't know jack squat about rotaries (and I'm sure I'm not the only one) and I'm looking to expand my knowledge here. I've been driving a Mark II Toyota MR2 Turbo for almost five years now. I've had two MR2's, both Turbo hardtops (rare in the second generation MR2 community), both with JDM 3S-GTE (The 2.0 Liter Turbo motor), and both with full suspension, great wheels/tires, and fairly modded. I'm going to start daily driving the RX7 as soon as possible, but, and it's a big but... it has no motor or transmission. Now, I'm not looking to turn this thing into a beast or anything, but, I can't go from a 480WHP MR2 to a 160HP daily driver, it's simply not me. I have seen plenty of videos of RX7's (they sound like sex appeal, by the way, especially the ones with those monstrous ports), and I have seen the 13B, 13BT, 20B, and the 4 rotor occasionally. Now, I figured the 3-rotor would be the way to go, but, I just read in another post that it's approximately $10,000 if you do the swap yourself, and $35,000 if you have a professional do it? Is that accurate? I mean, it sounds ridiculous... I'm sorry to say, and the MR2 community doesn't have a swap that would cost that much that I know of (though from what I understand the 20B potential by far surpasses most of the swaps done on MR2s). So, what are my options? As I already stated earlier, I'm not looking to make a beast here, 250WHP, 300WHP, what's a good power plant to start on that isn't going to cost me an arm and a leg? Any trustworthy shops here in Miami, FL? I've heard some horror stories about Lopez Racing, though, I can't say if they're true or not for I have no personal experiences with them. Any info. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead guys!

-- HadesMR

fusion-turbo

89 fc, do you know if it was a turbo or NA? Because if you're looking for power, turbo is definately the way to go!! Theres great links on this site to get rebuilt s5 turbo motors... get one of them and start from there.... bigger turbo, intercooler... however much power you want, but more importantly how big your wallet is!! Because with upgrades comes the necessity of upgrading the fuel system, engine management, tranny, bigger wheels....

If the car was an NA then you need to get a turbo rear-end as well to be able to hold the power

HadesMR

It's hard for me just stepping into rotary motors now and knowing what's required. My car has an easy build, and I definitely meant to say 380WHP, not 480WHP. GT30R turbokit, SARD 800CC Injectors, Wolfkats Sidefeed fuel rail, Walbro 255 FP, TiAL BOV, AEM EMS, HKS 272 Cams, HKS Adj. Cam Gears, Blitz Intake, A'pexi GT-Spec exhaust, 3" DP, and a no-name SMIC; that got me to what I'm at now with my MR2. Now I'm looking at your signature and I see: "720CC secondaries". Do most people run secondary injectors or are the stock injectors usually just replaced. What does a clip go for to get the full motor/tranny/ecu/harness/axles and the rest of the good stuff to hold the power? (Wheels I already have because my MR2 is becoming strictly track and I took some Final Speed A-Techs off of it that should fit the RX7 perfectly). The offset is 40 front and 42 rear, that's exactly like the MR2, unless I was misinformed. Hopefully the wheels are also 5x114.3 like my MR2, in which case, my wheels would fit the FC perfectly. So, ball park price to drop the motor and all the goodies in? Obviously if you ask three different shops you'll get three different answers, but, an estimate would be nice, to know how much I'll approximately need to spend on this project.

drift_the_fc

1300-1500 t2 full motor/tranny/ecu/harnes http://www.torontojdm.com/lite/cart....category_id=61

HadesMR

Thanks man, I appreciate it. Hopefully Just Japs, JDM of Miami, Raceup, or one of the many other motor selling shops around here will have a similar price range. Now that's affordable!
One more question, who wants to link me up to an explanation of the motor, how it works, what porting does (or how it works on a rotary)?
In the MR world we have a great write-up that can be found @: http://www.mrcontrols.com/
Hopefully you can use that as an example as to what I would like to find, but obviously, full of rotary info.

VacavilleFC

wow don't listen to that guy, jdm motors aren't worth ****, they need to be rebuilt right of the bat most the time. although it would be a good source for all the other stuff you need, your best route is to have a nice ported 13bt built, t2 tranny and rearend. it'll cost about 5k to do it right. but it'll last a long time and you'll have 300-350 hp easy

drift_the_fc

fine then go here and get it rebuilt and ported
http://www.rx7store.net/category_s/28.htm

fusion-turbo

The rotaries have two sets of injectors; 2 primaries (which operate all the time.... hopefully ) and 2 secondaries (which come on above 3800 rpm's). People upgrade the secondary injectors to keep from leaning out at higher RPM's due to increased boost.

It would be a great idea for you to read the FAQ thread in the 2nd gen forum at the top. TONS of wonderfull information and links for all.....

HadesMR

Sweet. I'm heading to the FAQ now, it was almost 3AM when I posted, so, I was half dead and not quite finding my way around this forum.

Sideways7

iTrader: (7)

Yes, 10k is pretty accurate for a 20b swap, and it can easily end up more than that.
You are looking at 4k+ just for the block and another 1500-2000 to rebuild it. a grand for a standalone, another couple grand for a turbo setup. There is a whole lot involved in doing it properly.
There is a full list of everything thats involved here: http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/20b.html

MmSadda

iTrader: (2)

you said you want 250-300 hp?

Buy a TurboII (TII). Whether it is series 4 or 5 (s4 or s5) does not really matter. You're going be working with a car that puts down at least 185hp stock, so 250-300 is just a few mods away, really.