it doesn't come up in the warranty thing, probably long dead. the parts catalog only goes to 1986...

 

Thanks again for everyone's help. Thank you Narfle for getting him off our backs for a few days.

NCross, I actually had your car on the Registry list I made a little bit ago, but couldn't find who had the car. Glad I could put a name by it finally.

I'm excited to see the list that j9fd3s assembles.

 

me too, plus i have a couple of sidebars about the upholstery and the WTF at the beginning of the 1990 model year, and maybe we could do one on the hard suspension/normal suspension.

 

Who do I PM about correcting some info on the Google Doc Registry?

Thanks

 

Here we go again. This was never proven by Rotary Police. All actual documents produced pointed to GS was the code for a GTUs. Rotary Police was never able to produce a window sticker or any other documentation for a custom dealer model that had GS as the code. If you have such documents I'm sure everyone would like to see them. If not don't start that argument back up again.

 

Rotary Police and JM1FC are the same person- Joe Maddox, the well documented and permanently banned scam artist. You can ignore his ramblings.

 

Where was it shown? Only you and Rotary Police( if you're not the same person) say so because someone at a dealership said so. If the four other sites say so, show the documentation. A scan of a document is all it takes. Not the same line repeated on all four sites
As for verification. I think everyone agrees, Picture of the car, vin, and door tags is acceptable.

 

The GTUs is NOT a custom model through dealers. I have provided documents from Mazda Motorsports. We have also looked at data where the GS designation can only be found on a GTUs car.

You keep saying this yet you never provide your evidence. Do so here or STFU.

 

Have you read this whole thread? Or at least from about March of this year? That's if you're not Rotary Police under a new user name. If the GTUs was not part of the factory line up why is it listed in the owners manual? I posted this in July. This is my owners manual.

I'm all for pictures of legitimate GTUs cars, but you keep coming in here and clogging the thread up with your GS code and custom dealer model bovine scatology. Scans of documents that prove what you say or stop arguing like you say you are done doing so people can post cars.

 

I found this information this morning on the GTUs from 1989 and 1990. Hoping it helps clear things up:

 

Where did you get you're information? Source? You're the one doing most of the arguing. All I( or just about everybody else) asked for is proof other than what basically amounts to "because I said so" Maybe we're arguing semantics and what you call a "custom dealer option" is just the dealer telling Mazda I want to order a GTUs. I'll admit I've never worked at a dealership but I'm pretty sure they tell the manufacturer what cars they want. The manufacturer doesn't just send them random cars and say here sell these. Thus I'm not grasping the difference between the dealer saying I want a GXL vs I want a GTUs. I don't think they could order a GTU with these additional options and now it's magically a custom ordered GTUs. The scans mazdaverx713b posted basically say it's a model in the lineup as does just about every other scan posted by people other than you. Even your own scans support it. Manufacturers don't release marketing materials for products that aren't in their line up. That said it being in the lineup but the dealer has to order it for you if you want it I could buy except, I have the the documents that show my car sat at the dealership for nearly a year. This tells me they were in the showrooms or at least one was. If you want to see them I'll scan them in( if I didn't actually already post them).

At this point if you want the fighting to stop just agree to disagree and we'll get back to waiting for people to post actual cars to enjoy. Unless I misunderstood somewhere along the way, we're not using the GS code for verification anyway.

 

JM1FC. You are wrong. Sorry. Go away.

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Just thought I'd share that my car was purchased by the dealer for sale and sat on the lot for one year before purchase by the first owner. This tells me it's unlikely that these cars were custom order only. The technician did a PDI on 1-11-90. John Calvert purchased the car on 1-18-91.

 

That's the same paperwork I got. Pre delivery inspection sheet. I don't think I have the receipt but the card in the front of the binder has the delivery date the customer took it. Well that's two cars that sat on the lot for some time before being bought. I actually think I had this same argument with Rotary Police back in July.

 

Who knows where this 'custom model' nonsense came from. It's listed in all the documentation for the S5 series. Asterisk? Yes, because that is how they specified the 4.3 rear for the GTUs under the entire NA category. It's in the brochures, it's in all the docs. There is nothing 'custom' about it.

I have provided a statement from Mazdaspeed Motorsports that the GS designation is the internal code for the GTUs. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN 100% TELL that the car you are looking at is a real GTUs. You can go ahead and add all the parts to the right chassis and add all the stickers you want. While it would be a real PITA to have a repro jamb sticker done linking the VIN to the 16" wheels, people have done worse. Nobody does it because these cars aren't worth enough to fake one to that detail.

Until someone provides documentation that their non-GTUs is also a 'GS' on the build sheet or sticker (which will never happen because it's not true) then we need to shut this crap down from this one guy who has obviously created a second log in.

We have gotten to a nice place where people are providing VIN pics and jamb pics, and that is good enough for us here, but know that the GS designation is king. To say otherwise is simply wrong and has never had any evidence to the contrary. Peace out.

 

Just because the GTUs was only offered for 2 years (yes 2 years, 1989 and 1990) makes it custom? What about the other models that were offered for less than the entire 6 year FC run? Are all those custom too? GS IS GTUs. That is a fact. Proof has been given more times than we can count. Nothing has even been shown that it was 'custom'. Can you provide ANYTHING with that word on it? NOPE.

When I bought mine out of CA, I called my buddy at Mazda Corp to have him decode the VIN to tell me if it was a real GTUs or not. Posted was the two documents and his knowledge that the GS is the GTUs. Using the VIN you can see it was a GS. You have not provided any information that a GS can be anything but a GTUs. That's fact.

I provided my info, which is good enough for this forum, but just STFU about the custom stuff. Really.

 

You need to go away. I have provided information via documents and a quoted email from Mazda that the GS is the GTUs. It is now incumbent on you to disprove it if you feel like it's wrong, which it is not. Every VIN that belongs to a real GTUs will show it with the internal code of 'GS'.

Please feel free to show us all a GTUs that is not a 'GS'. the repeated claims of a 'custom model' is mind blowing because it seeming comes from a chat with a parts guy at a dealer...and we know how reliable they can be. My documentation, which comes with screenshots of internal Mazda databases and an email from the Manager of Mazdaspeed (then Mazdacomp). What you fail to seemingly understand is that when you want to refute statements backed up by evidence, you need to have other evidence that contradicts it. You do not.

To anyone new here, here are the facts:

GTUs was a model in 1989 and 1990. It is well documented as such in factory literature and the owners manual. Nothing 'custom' gets this type of documentation. It makes no sense and is made up by one user.

The GTUs has a unique combination of parts that make it what it is (just like every model frankly) that we all know about. It's internal model code is GS. When I was looking to buy my car, I pinged Mazda (I was racing with them at the time) to run the VIN because it would not be impossible (although unlikely) for someone to piece a car together and pass it off as a real GTUs, including the jamb sticker that shows 16" wheels. That sticker is a GREAT visual cue to help you try and confirm authenticity BUT the only way to know for sure is it run the VIN and see that it was born a 'GS' model. This is fact. No evidence has been provided to dispute it. It's largely moot because these cars are not worth enough to fake the sticker but facts are facts.

Below is are snips from the email I got 11 years ago from Mazda when I inquired about JM1FC3317L0800001.





If you have read the whole thread you can see all the supporting documents from everyone that proves this out. Rotary Police and JM1FC are the same person and they just don't get it. Ignore them.

Peace out.

 

I know I've kind of disappeared for several months, but here I am again. Haha
It's been a long time, and I had already edited my name as the owner in the registry, but tonight I finally got my old GTUs back after almost 12 years of it being owned by a friend of mine. Needs a bit of work, but my plan is to get it back up and going in time for next year's AutoX season.

It does have the appropriate tire sticker in the door, but I'm intentionally not posting it, just to **** off certain people that think that's the only requirement of approval in deciding whether something is truly a GTUs.

 

It has some nice patina.

 

That's mostly frost. Haha. But I'll go with Patina.