Banning a person for requiring proof to your claims is inappropriate at best. Please stop personally attacking me because you are annoyed that I require proof to claims and there is only one way to prove your claim. Ignoring that reality is just as annoying to me as it is to you that I require proof from you to back your claims.

Im sure it’s annoying that I came in and debunked the production numbers claim and pointed out there are no restamped GTUs models. It is more annoying seeing s4 base models and s5 GTU models on your list and the sites being claimed as GTUs models.

I’m sorry that there are not as many as claimed, there is no proving those who made claims right and there are only 7 proven and this has everyone unsettled.

I’m sorry you cannot prove it means 16” rims without the fender tag. Hard suspension means hard suspension, maybe Mazda made more than one shock throughout its productions.


If there are more than 7 of the GTUs models made then help find them or admit that throughout the 31 years they have existed there have only been 7 found because there are only a few more than what has been found or that is about all there is produced.

A far as the website is concerned the GTUs is the rarest model rx7 ever produced, the restamped GTU is the rarest vin number (outside the crushed on off FD) and the only thing we should be focusing on now if trying to find and prove the claimed cars on the unverified list by showing door ID tags, vins and outside shots!

I think we need registry lists for all rare models at this point. Might be the only way to know what the world has left. There is a 10AE and GTUs registry list, let’s start a infini, final edition vert, limited winning, etc!

 

asking for proof is good, it has actually gotten me to post more source data than i usually would. usually i would do the checking and just say believe me. all that is good.


so which is it? prove your claims. we have a model chart, we have a brochure, we have some real cars. we are lucky we have so much information, use it. show us. verify your claims.

 

No one here has any credibility and that is why picture proof of the claims made is required. You yourself claim to verify hard suspension as 16” rims you need the door ID tag to show this.

All can stop being obtuse now and just require the only proof that shows the car is a real GTUs, door ID tags, firewall vin and shot of the car. The fact you are all wanting someone silenced for pointing out the false claims made and that proof required is annoying you speaks volumes. This thread has NO credibility anymore.

 

You're up in here giving everyone a hard time, but you cant get it back? As far as forum points go, all these people are mad credible.

 

The fact that you refuse to accept any actual proof, proof that we've verified through mazda systems. Proof that has been confirmed by a mazda usa employee is your own problem.

Photos of a car you claim is a GTU with a "Custom" model code, without any way of proving it through vin checking isn't debunking anything. Can you please just go **** off to your own thread and stop seeping your cancer through what everyone else can blatantly see is a legitimate claim of proof.

Literally. Just go **** off. We're tired of repeating ourselves, and getting nowhere with that cement brick you call a brain. You can go run around in your own GTUs thread, and accept the proof you want, while us logical, intelligent human beings continue on with rational conversation.

Normally I wouldn't be so crass about something like this, but you can't seem to get the basic concept through your dense skull that we don't want anything to do with you at this point, and are tired of hearing your garbage.

 

i asked you, what is the Hard Suspension? Which Models come with the 16" wheels? Which models come with the 16" wheel door tag? why would we need the vin if it doesn't verify that the car is a GTUS?
why do the cars you claim to be a GTUs not meet your own criteria?

you have made claims and offered no basis for them at all. you do realize that people are protesting police behavior just like this right?

 

He 'requires proof' of others assertions but can't produce any to support his claims. Sweet!

What we have proven above on that restamped car is that it is a GTUs by virtue of the "GS" model which we KNOW is the internal code.

So:

Restamped cars DO exist.
The one we have an example of is a GTUs
The GS model designation is a the GTUs and nothing else

Prove us wrong RP...and try and do it without the debunked 'custom model' crap you keep talking about which has zero basis in fact.

I agree that the silver lining in dealing with his BS is that we have been forced to substantiate what we thought we knew based on history and this site. The internal documents are gold.

 

It's great that having to "prove" ourselves to him has only made us find stronger proof to back ourselves. Any rando coming in here can tell who's right and who's not. I've shown this thread to several friends who aren't car people at all, and even they are wondering what awful strain RP must be smoking that he can't take the facts as they are. I honestly hope he just never posts in this thread again, though. We've got strong enough proof on our side, and he can just shove off into his own little circle jerk corner of the site for all I care.

Thank you all for your help in finding good solid evidence that we can use and check to verify GTUs, without having to simply rely on people's word or hope for a tire sticker photo.

j9fd3s, thank you for all your help and willingness to go through the systems you have available. I look forward to seeing the final GTUs list you come up with. You've really been pulling a lot of weight here, and I appreciate it.

 

me too, i've found more than 7 of them!

 

I’m here requiring proof and that to you is a hard time, thus I’m here giving people a hard time.

the claims about restamped models and production numbers were made by a person who cited himself, there are s4 models and s5 GTU models on this thread and no one has proven hard suspension means 16” rims besides saying that using the door id tag as I stated as proof is how you verify.

No credibility and that is why I promote the real GTUs owners thread and am so outspoken about proof being necessary here!



There are only 7, prove otherwise. The pics of the door ID tags, firewall vin and outside of the car are all that can prove it.

The end. Enjoy!

 

He said the end. Sounds good to me. This argument has gone on long enough, and I know we're all tired of it.

Hopefully he just goes and accepts his own proof elsewhere and ignores this thread from here on out. He's never gonna win here and we're sick of seeing him.

 

J9fd3s

What about this VIN?

 

JM1FC3318L0800203 is a GTUs, GS 2p/FC02 model, it rolled out of the factory 7/18/1989 with engine 13BE 18504. port of entry was Jersey City, and it was sold new in NY at dealer 50166 (my decoder book is on my desk, at work) on 1/18/1991

when you go look at other cars they usually have funny stuff in there, Audi has one that says "for countries with bad gas", but Mazda kind of sticks to the basics... its red?

 

Just stop. The vin does not prove it, the list is discredited, this thread is discredited.

Hard suspension does not mean 16” rims. You said you need the door ID tag to prove it does.

Mazda never said how many were produced. The claims this thread made are made up crap.

There has never been a GTUs restamped model prove to exist but the GTU restamped has been proven to exist. You yourself on this thread claimed there are not enough GTUs models made to back the BS claim this thread made about them. Mazda said nothing about the restamped models.

Now the nonsense opinions and denial to avoid posting real proof is just getting pathetic. I just noticed you were called out by this vin owner on Facebook and we’re corrected on your misinformation and ego about being the say all to the GTUs.












No one is taking NA chassis’s, Turbo swapping the interior, brakes, getting the rarest diff , steering rack and transmission ever made for the fc and then top it off with custom made stickers or find the rarest stickers made for the fc... No one but you thinks anyone will get away with that. If they cared that much about it to restore it like that then they would take pictures of the original stickers.


I am not sure why you feel you are the final say to this because of your opinions on the GS2P dealer code. It’s debunked. Just like the restamped claims and the production numbers claim. The information you are giving on the vins can be obtained through several companies like carfax. So just 🛑






If you own a real GTUs model and would like to prove its real and not just one of the many BS claims I called out than post a picture of the door ID tags, firewall vin number and an outside shot of the car.

Nate is already in the list with one of, if not, the most beautiful GTUs models on the road! Because when you have a real one you post the proof required! They all have!

 

So are there only 7 real GTUs models? I have posted pictures of your friends on Facebook making claims they have them, you ignored them being called out here... So are they fake? Would love to get them verified!

 

thank you, that confirms everything that is important to me here 🙂

Right after i bought it.

 

pics...

 

Rotary Police is on a 7 day vacation from the forum. This is not a discussion or even an argument. It's just him refusing to respect senior members or provide any foundation to his repeated claims. It's super annoying, and I wont tolerate it further.

 

I am glad we are now completely ignoring anything from the moron Rotary Police. We have proven him wrong and he doesn't provide anything to back up his made up junk. Let's move forward like this.

Sweet!

AB

 

Curious about one screen saying color code SQ is white. Is that a later color code?

 

I knew that VIN was going to pull a GS-2P model even though the invoice was wrong!

@j9fd3s is there anyway to search the system for a count of models? You could pull the total numbers if it let you search for GS2P.

@Narfle - Thanks, unfortunately I don't think anything will change.

 

oh sorry, its covered in the Parts Guy 102 class, they need a comma, the SQ is the outside color, and the sticker is white.

this is what it looks like without the Vin filter, so if the car is 1f, uc, wy, it gets the red gtus sticker, FC05-51-761-18

if the car is 3g, 5d, 5n, 6h, pz or SQ it gets the white sticker, FC05-51-761-30

 

that invoice was generated by the dealership, and not Mazda, so anything goes there.

i only have access by vin, we would need someone higher up to run a query like that, or hack one of the old EPC's. the data has to be on a table or something

 

Thank you Thank you Thank you!

And thank you for recognizing us senior "members", even though I don't think I have as much time on this forum as the others, but been in the FC game since they were new on the lot.

Speaking of that, how do I get my Rotor Year changed?

 

The interesting thing about the dealer paperwork for my red car shows the original owner traded a gold 82 RX7 for it as downpayment. It would be interesting to find the whereabouts of JM1FB3310C0640627.