The count is less than 10AE cars but not as low as you want them to be. Why would a manufacturer add the model designation to their lineup, print media, and advertise for a car they've only built say 50 models of? Not happening, sorry.

A GTUs is "special" but that's about it, it will never be "valuable" like a Turbo model.

 

the rarest ones so far seem to be the Winning Silver - 1F.... seems to only come as a GXL too, at least so far

 

Why do you continue to regurgitate wrong information?

MY data that I have provided clearly shows the following:

GS model code from VIN information from Mazda USA
Mazda USA employee verifying that the GS code is a GTUs (and nothing else)
The stickers that you love showing the 16" wheels

Please repost any pictures of a GTU that has a 'GS' on it's window sticker or the internal Mazda doc that shows 'GS'. The only window sticker we have seen with a GS was a GTUs, as it should be. The only internal Mazda information has come from me showing GS, again for another real GTUs.

I have also not seen a picture of a restamped GTU, just the GTUs. Show us that one. You are clearly getting cars and data mixed up but lets give you one more chance to show the data.

AB

 

its worth pointing out that the Hard Suspension, comes with the 16" wheels, and Limited Slip. The only two models that have the Hard Suspension are the Turbo and GTUs. so listing the wheels is redundant, although the parts catalog knows what wheels the car has, and it will show 16" wheels if the car is a GTUs,

the parts catalog also picks the GTUs sticker, its really quite simple

 

You also keep bringing up the sunroof in a GTUs model on here as some sort of proof that we're wrong. We know that no GTUs came from the FACTORY with a sunroof, but it wasn't uncommon for dealerships to have them installed later. So having a sunroof doesn't automatically count out the car, because it can be a post factory dealer modification.

Again, we have provided way more proof than should be necessary, and you have yet to produce one single iota of evidence that the GS is anything other than a GTUs. No window stickers, no vin #s, NOTHING! Just your own words saying "GS is a custom model." of which you have NOTHING to back up your claims. You've lost this argument outright unless you can provide any actual proof.

 

ive seen a few GTUs's that have been ruined with a sunroof, the aftermarket ones are easy to spot, they are a different size, shape, and aren't rusty

 

Your opinions about the GTU sunroof from the factory are false as I posted pictures discrediting them. Custom ordered cars from factory exist and are gs2p.

No pictures showing the car came with 16” rims has been provided and all parties have confirmed that only the door ID tag can confirm it is a GTUs.

if you cannot prove you have it with a picture of the vin, door ID tags and the car itself, you do not have it.


this is the rarest production rx7 outside of the one FD that’s wrecked and gone.

there are only 7 GTUs models proven to exist. There are a hell of a lot more 10AE models confirmed. Fact.


So instead of being all triggered over proof being required, try finding the claimed cars on the discredited list and confirming them with proof? Unless you already know the outcome and are just avoiding it.



The myth of the restamped GTUs and the production numbers on the GTUs is dead, almost 20 years of unproven claims have been made here, PICS OR IT DID NOT HAPPEN!


Only 7 GTUs models exist so far. Rarest Rx7 in the making!

 

You got confused. No. I showed a GTU model came with and without sunroofs, lsd and power options depending on the order. I killed the bs claims made on this thread. No proof of the restamped, the production numbers, anything. I require proof, pics or it did not happen. Thanks

 

because a picture of the side of a 1991 proves your point

 

Restating your dumb claims and not answering or providing proof doesn't help you. You are wrong on the GS 2P. Please provide your proof or stop posting.

At this point the members here know whats up and that you are full of crap. See ya.

 

What does a GTU have to do with a GTUs? Nothing.

 

Where is the vin# that we can check it against? Let's do a vin check on that vehicle and put it to rest. Unless you have a vin# we can check and prove it has a GS model code you still haven't given us any proof. a random single shot of a vehicle you claim to be a GTU with a GS model code says nothing, because you have no proof that it has a GS model code. Unless you can get us the vin# of that vehicle, and we can check it in the database you haven't proven anything.

and quit it with your bull **** "Only 7 GTUs models exist so far. Rarest Rx7 in the making!" garbage at the end of your posts like any of us actually care. Any sane person that comes into this thread and looks at our proof versus yours is going to realize how wrong you are.

 

From a local here in town. I’ve seen it a small cars and coffee last week. Has the door tag with the matching VIN and 205/55/16 tire size. No Restamp on the firewall.

 

nice! that car looks like it would clean up really well too

 

it needs a lot of work. The Arizona sun has eaten away all the interior except for the carpet and seats. The dash is completely destroyed. He just had the brakes redone and will soon start suspension and bushings. Ive offered to lend him a hand if he needs it.

So the GS 2P is what ultimately determines a GTUs?

 

If you posted a picture of the door ID tags it can be confirmed as a real GTUs model! Without that picture it’s just another claim like the discredited ones previously made. Really awesome if you can get that door ID tags pictured and prove there are actually 8 GTUs models that exist! All GTUs models are non restamped. There is no proof ever that there was a restamped GTUs made. Only GTU.

 

I'll get a picture of the door tag. Ive seen it and its legit.

I thought there was 100 Non Re Stamped and a few 100 that were Re Stamped

 

Most are in that shape or worse, so it’s a great start for sure! I look forward to seeing it come together! Does it have the goodies like rack, trans, diff? Black dashes can still be found luckily!

No, GS means custom model. The GTUs was a dealer custom model that Mazda confirmed as such. All custom order cars from the factory that are not a part of the rx7 model line up from 86-91 was considered such.

There are crazy claims made about these cars, without the vin, door id and full shot of the car it’s impossible to confirm it. As shown on this thread the Gs option never shows on paper 16” rims as the options and all agree it takes the door ID tags. As shown here https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-gene...hread-1144342/

 

Nope. There was a claim made here by the creator of the club, he cited himself as proof to his claims. Two restamped fc 90s were found and assumed to be GTUs models, but no pictures of the door ID tags were provided and the cars were crushed and lost. There was a GTU that showed restamped models in 90 were made and so the proof that a 90 restamped GTU exists but not proof to the 90 restamped GTUs. It’s a few pages back on this thread. I linked it.

as it stands right now is that there are only 7 confirmed GTUs models and possibly only 40ish (not confirm and several discredited already) that have ever existed at all. The same person who made the claims about the restamped models made up the production numbers.

I am really excited to see it and add it to the list! So few exist and they are such an interesting story!

 

there are a few things that determine a GTUs, and they all match up. as you can see in the Warranty History GS 2P, is the model, GU = GTU, GX is a GXL, etc. the parts catalog goes by attribute, and an FC02 is a coupe with no sunroof, and hard suspension = GTUs, i posted the chart.

and then you can go look at the car, it will have the hard suspension door sticker, 16" wheels, same as the T2, aluminum hood, T2 seats, manual windows, no sunroof.

so there are a bunch of things, and on a real car they will all line up, because the cars follow the model chart, and it either is or it isn't

 

the Re-stamp thing is weird. the parts catalog knows the restamps, and so i'll shortly have a list, its not just GTUs, its everything. so far it looks like this.

os a normal FC vin is something like JM1FC331XL08xxxxx, the L = 1990, and K = 1989, as per the Feds. Mazda's system in Japan is FC3S-8xxxxx, and 8 is what i will call the Version number, this version number will either change with the model year, like it does with the or it will change when Mazda changes something on the car. the FD changes version numbers each model year, as Mazda made updates, but which is why we need the Power FC I-IV, but the NC miata is 1xxxxx from 2006-2008, and 2xxxxx all the way to 2015.

ok so for the FC, K07xxxxx is a 1989, and 1990 starts with L07xxxxx which is fine, but then after about 10 days switches to L08xxxxx which is weird. it is in this ~10 day period that the restamps occur.

the 1989 to 1990 model split happened on 7/1/1989, and then there is a week where a car can be an 1989, a 1990, or a restamp. it is really weird. we will probably never really know why it happened, but it sort of looks like something bad happened at the model year switchover, its like they dd it on the right day but wrong car or something.

i'm not done yet, but there may be 100 re-stamps, but not 100 re-stamped GTUs's, there just aren't that many GTUs's. Mazda also was making a ton of Rx7's at the time, so its a slow process

so this GTUs thing has turned into two stories, the first is how many were there, and the second is the WTF with the restamps

 

I said I was done arguing but I guess I can't let it go.
Stop repeating this claim until you provide a vin# of a GTU that was a custom ordered car that proves this. As previously stated just because some employee at a Mazda dealership said it, does not make it true. All the documents that have been posted in this thread show it is a model in the line up for 1989 and 1990 not a " custom order model" As to the door tag. No one is disputing it. It's a long thread but I think everyone agrees only a GTUs( and the Turbo of course) has the door tag for 16" wheels. So if a car has all the things j9fd3s listed and he included the the door sticker it is a GTUs. If you provide a Vin# that proves what you say then I guess we'll all be eating crow. Until then follow your own advice of "pics or it didn't happen"

 

Hard suspension does not prove it came with 16” rims. This is the best though...
“there may be 100 re-stamps, but not 100 re-stamped GTUs's, there just aren't that many GTUs's.”

I have killed all the claims in this thread, stop making them and just show the door ID tag the moderator said the door ID tag shows WITH the proof that it came with the 16” rims.

I find it petty how argumentative this is requiring proof, picture, physical proof that a car exists to claim it exists.



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its in the model chart rick

 

Lol Rotary Police Dead Wrong. STFU.