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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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Does the air flow meter position matter?

Basicly does it matter which way the flap swings. In my S4 it is the big AFM and the FSM shows the backwards D shape on the top and instide the flap swings side ways. It was pointed out to me that my AFM was rotated so the flap doesn't swing sideways...more like it swings up. In case your wondering I have a cone filter that replaced the stock air filter box. Is there a "best position for this unit?

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Here is an example picture (not my car, just as an example)

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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I know that the angle of it had to be less then a certain degree. If its not the car won't idle right.....
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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You do not want the flap swinging on a vertical plane, try to keep it as close to horizontal as possible. If you search the forums you should be able to find a post about swapping out the S4 AFM for the S5 AFM which is a plunger style.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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From the reading that I did on the forum, as well as my person experience - The S4 AFM works as long as the flapper is horizontal (or thereabouts). If the black "D" is facing up (stock position) or the waffle pattern is facing up (like in the pic) you are OK. If the AFM is tilted too much - or is on it's side - you will have issues. If it is tilted or on it's side, gravity will hamper the flapper's proper operation.


I have been running the AFM upside down for over a year (the car in the pic is mine ) with no ill effects noticed. That being said, some people have had issues with idle when the AFM is upside down. Personally, mine has been trouble-free in this configuration.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Thanks for your help Nick86, I love your cold air box.

Can our S4's use the S5 AFM?

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Yes but with some wiring difference. There was a thread about it...
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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I don't know, any good design for a flapper door should be counterbalanced. It shouldn't matter what orientation it has.

In my racecar I rotated it so that the flapper door hangs straight down. I didn't do it for any real reason it just happens to fit nicer that way.

I have had no idle problems, no MPG problems, no power problems.

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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It's suppose to matter, slightly. The "Black box" should either be facing the sky or the ground...

Wait : You guys still have an AFM?

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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The S5 AFM swap is a waste of time, no gain there. Just make sure the flap moves in the horizontal plane and you'll be fine.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Relisys190
Wait : You guys still have an AFM?

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Yep! Until they come up with an emissions friendly standalone.
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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There will never be such a thing. Standalone's are illegal because you can adjust them. If you can adjust them, you can increase the amount of emisisions produced anytime you want. Even if you tune it perfectly and prove it has low enough emissions output, you can just drive home and change it. The lawmakers don't want you to be able to do that.

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