Aluminum FC Oil Pans
12-13-05, 01:40 PM
#77
#@&%!!! I hate vendors! Our machinist claims his jig fixtures didn't work satisfactorily so he had to build new ones, forcing him to miss his deadline AGAIN. Now he says he won't have the pans done for "a couple more days" which -- at best -- means next Monday, if we are really lucky. And I'm not too sure we will be lucky, unless a miracle occurs and our machinist runs out of excuses and actually gets something done. The only good news is that he is a real craftsman, so when he does actually get around to doing the job it will at least be done right. I just hate his "artistic temperment" when it comes to deadlines.
Sorry, I had to let that out. Had I known the machining would take so long, I would have delayed any announcement about the product until they were in our hands. I know people are anxious but please be patient. I'm not trying to tease you and I won't take any deposits until I have a better idea of a ship date. Besides, I still have not heard back from Ryan about permission for the Group Buy. If it never comes, I will just turn the GB into an "introductory special" through our web site storefront and allow anyone to buy at that price, but I'd rather keep it as a perk for Forum members.
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Blake
Sorry, I had to let that out. Had I known the machining would take so long, I would have delayed any announcement about the product until they were in our hands. I know people are anxious but please be patient. I'm not trying to tease you and I won't take any deposits until I have a better idea of a ship date. Besides, I still have not heard back from Ryan about permission for the Group Buy. If it never comes, I will just turn the GB into an "introductory special" through our web site storefront and allow anyone to buy at that price, but I'd rather keep it as a perk for Forum members.
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Blake
12-13-05, 06:29 PM
#78
I wish I was driving!
Seems like a decent product for the amount of money.
What provisions are being taken to compensate for the right motor mount? With a thicker pan flange and stock motor mounts, the right side of the engine will sit higher on the right side. The engine would no longer sit level, and it would add preload to the transmission mounts.
This difference in height could easily intefere with hood fitment, especially on TII cars using the TMIC.
What provisions are being taken to compensate for the right motor mount? With a thicker pan flange and stock motor mounts, the right side of the engine will sit higher on the right side. The engine would no longer sit level, and it would add preload to the transmission mounts.
This difference in height could easily intefere with hood fitment, especially on TII cars using the TMIC.
12-13-05, 08:40 PM
#79
Originally Posted by scathcart
Seems like a decent product for the amount of money.
What provisions are being taken to compensate for the right motor mount? With a thicker pan flange and stock motor mounts, the right side of the engine will sit higher on the right side. The engine would no longer sit level, and it would add preload to the transmission mounts.
This difference in height could easily intefere with hood fitment, especially on TII cars using the TMIC.
What provisions are being taken to compensate for the right motor mount? With a thicker pan flange and stock motor mounts, the right side of the engine will sit higher on the right side. The engine would no longer sit level, and it would add preload to the transmission mounts.
This difference in height could easily intefere with hood fitment, especially on TII cars using the TMIC.
12-15-05, 03:30 PM
#81
Originally Posted by Blake
We are actually planning to have some machined down and offer them on a core-exchange basis, but that will be at an additional cost and not immediately available
-Ben Martin
12-15-05, 04:56 PM
#82
Originally Posted by Node
I'm confused, you would be machining it down to the old mount height level? and what kind of core.......the old oil pan or what
-Ben Martin
-Ben Martin
12-16-05, 01:22 AM
#83
First off, awesome product. I hate my leaking damn oil pan. Just the other day I was thinking, "I wish someone made a hardcore oilpan for the FC."
One dumb question about it: Does it provide a provision for the stock oil level sensor? I know I'm lazy, I should check the oil regularly, but in an adverse sudden loss of oil situation (hole in pan, oil cooler, oil cooler line) it would be nice.
Thanks for showing some love for us!
Vince
One dumb question about it: Does it provide a provision for the stock oil level sensor? I know I'm lazy, I should check the oil regularly, but in an adverse sudden loss of oil situation (hole in pan, oil cooler, oil cooler line) it would be nice.
Thanks for showing some love for us!
Vince
12-16-05, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by project87gxl
First off, awesome product. I hate my leaking damn oil pan. Just the other day I was thinking, "I wish someone made a hardcore oilpan for the FC."
One dumb question about it: Does it provide a provision for the stock oil level sensor? I know I'm lazy, I should check the oil regularly, but in an adverse sudden loss of oil situation (hole in pan, oil cooler, oil cooler line) it would be nice.
Thanks for showing some love for us!
Vince
One dumb question about it: Does it provide a provision for the stock oil level sensor? I know I'm lazy, I should check the oil regularly, but in an adverse sudden loss of oil situation (hole in pan, oil cooler, oil cooler line) it would be nice.
Thanks for showing some love for us!
Vince
post #44 my man
12-16-05, 05:31 PM
#86
no offense Blake but you can't "machine down" a stock mount, it makes me wonder how much you really tested these units and the engineering that went into them.
i'm really not a spiteful person but i hope people are getting what they pay for with these products.
the mount probably won't cause an issue but it is a little hokey jacking up one side of the engine, i just would hate for someone to find out the hard way that there was no testing involved and the first time they shut the hood it is deformed from the IC sitting too high.
like i said earlier though, i still do appreciate the fact you do put time into designing pieces for the 2nd gens but with anything you have to take criticism and work off of it.
i'm really not a spiteful person but i hope people are getting what they pay for with these products.
the mount probably won't cause an issue but it is a little hokey jacking up one side of the engine, i just would hate for someone to find out the hard way that there was no testing involved and the first time they shut the hood it is deformed from the IC sitting too high.
like i said earlier though, i still do appreciate the fact you do put time into designing pieces for the 2nd gens but with anything you have to take criticism and work off of it.
12-16-05, 05:41 PM
#87
Originally Posted by Karack
no offense Blake but you can't "machine down" a stock mount, it makes me wonder how much you really tested these units and the engineering that went into them.
i'm really not a spiteful person but i hope people are getting what they pay for with these products.
the mount probably won't cause an issue but it is a little hokey jacking up one side of the engine, i just would hate for someone to find out the hard way that there was no testing involved and the first time they shut the hood it is deformed from the IC sitting too high.
like i said earlier though, i still do appreciate the fact you do put time into designing pieces for the 2nd gens but with anything you have to take criticism and work off of it.
i'm really not a spiteful person but i hope people are getting what they pay for with these products.
the mount probably won't cause an issue but it is a little hokey jacking up one side of the engine, i just would hate for someone to find out the hard way that there was no testing involved and the first time they shut the hood it is deformed from the IC sitting too high.
like i said earlier though, i still do appreciate the fact you do put time into designing pieces for the 2nd gens but with anything you have to take criticism and work off of it.
12-16-05, 06:05 PM
#91
Originally Posted by Karack
i see.... so this is the pre-recorded message people will get if there is any issues with products.
thanks for the heads up.
thanks for the heads up.
12-16-05, 06:35 PM
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^doesn't look like flame bating..more of a formal response. I too would like to know if they have been tested on a car before you start selling them. Would be nice to have the peace of mind knowing that I can bolt the pan on and be done with it rather than worrying about fitment and such if I am going to be buying one.
12-16-05, 06:57 PM
#93
Originally Posted by SmogSUX
^doesn't look like flame bating..more of a formal response. I too would like to know if they have been tested on a car before you start selling them. Would be nice to have the peace of mind knowing that I can bolt the pan on and be done with it rather than worrying about fitment and such if I am going to be buying one.
This character just wants to poke the bear by implying our products are not well engineered. Believe what you want but please quite trying so hard to convince everyone else without any evidence. Don't like it? Don't buy it! And you are all very welcome to make your own aluminum oil pans if you think you can do a better job.
Have a nice day.
12-16-05, 07:06 PM
#95
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That definitely looks like a quality piece, right there.
The only way I would consider getting one of these is if my pan was destroyed, though...or if I was tracking my car very often and had oil pressure problems. I recently replaced the gasket on my oil pan, and it was a huge pain in the ***. Also, if there is more oil used, the temperatures should go down, as oil does have cooling properties.
To each their own, though. And for those who do wind up getting one, please make a thread about it. Possible ease of installation, new amount of oil used, possible engine rigidity increases, etc.
That dual drain plug does look pretty sweet, though. Should help in removing all oil that the stock doesn't get.
With that said, nice work to Pineapple Racing. I hope you sell a bunch and make the community happy!
Regards,
James
The only way I would consider getting one of these is if my pan was destroyed, though...or if I was tracking my car very often and had oil pressure problems. I recently replaced the gasket on my oil pan, and it was a huge pain in the ***. Also, if there is more oil used, the temperatures should go down, as oil does have cooling properties.
To each their own, though. And for those who do wind up getting one, please make a thread about it. Possible ease of installation, new amount of oil used, possible engine rigidity increases, etc.
That dual drain plug does look pretty sweet, though. Should help in removing all oil that the stock doesn't get.
With that said, nice work to Pineapple Racing. I hope you sell a bunch and make the community happy!
Regards,
James
Last edited by spot_skater; 12-16-05 at 07:15 PM.
12-16-05, 07:51 PM
#96
i run a rotary shop and if someone asked about it i would like to know, so now i will tell anyone who might have been interested i will not install one because of your arrogance about it and lack of response. if it has been tested and you guarantee the fitment and quality so be it but you instead chose to ignore valid points, in fact just about every valid point on the thread was ignored aside from the quantity it holds.
though my first responses were personal opinion my latter ones were out of curiosity and in case someone was interested in this product.
though my first responses were personal opinion my latter ones were out of curiosity and in case someone was interested in this product.
12-16-05, 08:03 PM
#97
Originally Posted by Karack
i run a rotary shop and if someone asked about it i would like to know, so now i will tell anyone who might have been interested i will not install one because of your arrogance about it and lack of response. if it has been tested and you guarantee the fitment and quality so be it but you instead chose to ignore valid points, in fact just about every valid point on the thread was ignored aside from the quantity it holds.
though my first responses were personal opinion my latter ones were out of curiosity and in case someone was interested in this product.
though my first responses were personal opinion my latter ones were out of curiosity and in case someone was interested in this product.