Rotortuner

You sound very uninformed about what the pineaple racing name implys as far as quality is concerned. That shop is top knotch and has produced several engines that hold up to over 800 FWHP. They have produceda multitude of other rotary specific pieces that are ausome. I have seen many of their parts and are very good. Take a look at the alt relocating kit, excellent piece. Mabe you should do some research befor asking stupid questions, and rather than you refusing to buy/install this piece, i think blake should refuse to sell it to you and when you have a customer that wants one, you can tell them, you arent allowed to buy one. Once again have a nice day, and do some research on the quality certain business's turn out before accusing them of possibly trying to sell poor quality pieces.

CJG

Icemark

Actually I am in the same boat as Karack. I was ready to line up pre-pay and pop down my money and buy one... up to the point where it raises the engine, because it was not designed to match up to the stock motor mount correctly.

That shoots a red flag up to me, and I will just wait and see what other users find out first before plopping down my hard earned money.

So in this case the research that you suggest someone does before buying something saved me from buying a part that potentially might cause problems.

ddub

Hmmm, no offense but lately you've been kind of arrogant and immature towards people asking some valid questions.

You can do what you want. It's your life and you're the representative, seemingly, for Pineapple so it's completely your decision. I'm just giving my input from an observer that is neutral and doesn't care either way about the product since I wont be getting it. But the way you are handling things doesn't seem like the best as far as business ethics and tactics.

It just seems like you are acting as if everything is set in stone, and there is no room for questioning or disagreeance. Which may not be true, just an observation, again from a neutral party that could care less

RETed

Got spellcheck?
That made my head hurt.


-Ted

vipers

iTrader: (8)

well, im on the list of purchasing one, and will be installing it mid february..... i will gladly post pics and comments if nobody has done so ahead of me! but i cant help the people w/ top mount intercoolers due to me having a front mount....so the slight tilt of the motor doesnt affect me at all.......

i dont really see blake being arrogant and unprofessional...... his company has spent alot of money in r&d, and the pans are already made, so regardless of who says what.... the first batch of pans are almost ready to ship.........some products arent for everyone.....so even if the slight tilt of the motor, or even if its shimmed, and it doesnt clear the top mount, then he will put a warning on the site "cannot be used w/ stock tmic's", but concidering that is what 75% of t2 owners change first, it isnt that much of a hassle.........

now na's and t2's w a front mount, the slight tilt will probubly barely be noticable, and shimming the other motor mount is a .50 cent investment .........but at least pinapple is out there trying to make products for us when most of the aftermarket companies have forgotten about us!

ilike2eatricers

I thought the question about shimming the mounts was a legitimate question...

Thanks for contributing to the thread

I'm sure many people will be waiting for real reviews of the product but I beg to differ when you say 75% of t2 owners change to an FMIC first. Hell I bet not even 50% of TII owners have an FMIC.

Tech_Greek

Thanks for trolling...you guys really don't understand, our cars are 15~ years old, we can't bitch about every product that comes out or there won't be anymore, this is why I'm seeing a lot of vendors stray away from these forums, nothing but a bunch of thirteen year old girls complaining because it's not been tested for four years.

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

grrr damn you for bringing me back.....

of course our cars are old but my whole point is i don't want someone to be a guinea pig for a product, i don't mind doing it myself but when i hear stories of other people running into issues with untested products it makes me feel like **** because i know what it feels like to lose all of that time and effort and wind up taking a step back in progress with your car.

if you want to call me immature for trying to look out for others that is your choice.

i do know what i am doing may hurt our chances of getting further products but if all we are being used as is a test unit in a lab for those products then i would prefer to stick with what i have. i have always been in favor of functionality over appearance although both is always best, these pans do look good but just because something looks like it is good quality doesn't mean it will not have issues.

Tech_Greek

So why badger a vendor who's spending god knows much money to get these things made for sale, on a STUPID issue like it tilts...WTF...I'm not buy your oil pan because it makes something tilt.

You guys don't realize they have walk in buyers as well, they don't need to tell the RX-7 Club about products, they do because there are a lot of us here, and they realize it's a product selling source but if everyone keeps bickering at them, they arent going to come back, then I'm screwed because of you aholes.

Karack, the guinea pig, yeah, that's not the case - that's like my Camden S/C, everyone whined, complained, for a supercharger, then when it came out people complained so much that Dan doesn't even post here anymore, they werent constructive criticsim they were TROLLING...just like ya'll are doing right now.

I took the chance on my supercharger, I've taken the chance on a lot of things on my car, all have (in one or another) come out GREAT on my car, I trust pineapple racing because I've seen their products in person and know the quality of the work, when jose is doing low 7 second runs in his 20B car with Pineapple Products, I know they are worth it.

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

your car is a perfect example and i'm sorry for the time you lost and the time you will lose on it, i won't even comment on the rest of your post because it isn't worth getting worked up over.


edit: i remember seeing you contemplating selling your car because of the supercharger or am i wrong? now that it is working ok you are happy. i hope you really are thinking your posts through and try to remember how much time and effort you lost, not to mention stress of not having a car on the road.


you guys want to jump down my throat for trying to look out for you?

fine, you're on your own.

Tech_Greek

My car is a perfect example, I like custom products, I like being different than everyone else, I know it's not the fastest thing on the road but it's unique and is more powerful than a stock S5 N/A and that's all I care about.

You can't vouche for a product that you've never seen in person, nor can you bash it, if you've never seen it on a car or seen it installed personally...

Fustration is a horrible thing, I'm a very impatient person, hell I paid $180 to over night the charger back...so yes, I was tempted to sell it because I needed to get to work, now I have ways of getting to work so down time isnt an issue for me anymore.

RotaryEvolution

iTrader: (30)

i don't need to see something in person to know if it has been tested or not. that was all i cared about was knowing that it was installed on a vehicle, the hood shuts, it doesn't **** oil all over the place or crack on a hard accel.

problem is you still think i'm bashing on the product, go back through my posts i commented my gratefullness several times for their still providing their time to producing products for the 2nd gens still but if they are untested products then i would rather not see them or at least have one person who is willing to test them do so before advertising them for sale.

i realize you like being different but not everyone has the desire to run into issues when all they expected was a bolt on upgrade.

frustruation is a horrible thing and i know you know what it feels like, and i reiterate, that is exactly what i'm trying to spare someone of experiencing by pushing for testing of products before they are up for sale.

Tech_Greek

That defintley makes a lot more sense than the previous posts.

Yes, I agree, I would defintley want to make sure that it didnt crack or do anything like that.

ilike2eatricers

How long have you been here? You talk like you're an old timer... I've been here years longer than you and I dont even consider myself an old timer on this board. And of all people you talk to me about how I would complain about spending money on an FC. You obviously dont know anything about me or how much money I have dumped into my FC, take a look at my sig if you dont believe me (I've been 3 several setups already as well). Let's just leave it at that and not clutter the thread anymore than it is. You still want to argue PM me.

ddub

It'd be appreciated if you didn't talk about people and/or subjects you don't have knowledge about. Trolling? ilike2eatricers has been around a long time, has a fairly modified TII, and enjoys his rx7. He might be interested in the same questions as others have presented but are not being answered. How is this trolling?

If people didn't question venders when all data was not presented, NO MATTER WHAT COMPANY, then you'd begin to get companies cutting corners, cutting costs, lying, etc. I AM IN NO WAY SAYING PINEAPPLE IS DOING THIS, but questions, debate, requests for data is a good thing. Without people stepping forward with potential issues, we'd all get screwed.

YearsOfDecay

FOR GOD SAKE PEOPLE ITS GOING TO SET OFF AND ENTIRE 1/4 of an INCH.......


no wonder nobody makes anything for the FC..........

Not only are we (as a group) broke, but, we want everything handed to us on a silver platter.......

I knew this the MOMENT he put it up... its a cast aluminum pan.. versus a stamped steel pan and the one mount goes through the pan......

ONE MORE THING...................

Dollars to Donuts, if you are buying this pan... you already have a FMIC cause you are serious about your cars pefrormance.. If you are an N/A guy, then you don't need to worry about the itty bit of tilt anyway...

AND...... if you REALLY wanted to.... you COULD take the passenger side mount arm to a machine shop and have 1/16 planed off each attachement surface and no one would be the wiser..........

I'll be switching to AWR mounts in the spring, SO, I'm just gonna shim the TRANNY mount!!!!!!!!!

(edited for some unneeded language/flaming)

ddub

I think we all just need to calm down for a bit.

This thread is unfortunately getting to the point where it might be closed, but until some issues are resolved, if they ever will be, I think some would appreciate it to stay open.

Lets just leave it at SOME people do have concerns and questions. This is fine, do not get on their case for it since it is valid. If people start spouting out lies or misinformation based on belief, then that is bad, but legitimate questions are FINE. If no one asked any questions ever, some things would never surface.

Please keep it friendly.

Tech_Greek

What does me being on here for a certain amount of time have anything to do with? I never claimed I'm the smartest person on here.

I don't care how many companies, projects, whatever you own, I've seen a person who was the "go-to" person of panther, fox body, mn12 body cars to get their car tuned rip people off, what makes you any different?

It was not a friendly suggestion, when people start accusing the pan of having bad construction methods, etc.

Trolling is when you look for threads to start BS in, which it so seems has been happening a lot by some of the more famous members of the RX-7 Club, I mean, ddub, didn't you just blow your engine N/A and threaten to sell your car? I was under the assumption that you knew more than me...

TurboIIGuy

I dunno.
I preffer the moroso duble sump oil pan. Not to mention it's about 40% less than that direct from moroso wholesale.
Any advantages of this one versus the Moroso pan????

Andrew.

iTrader: (4)

And this isn't trolling


What does this have to do with bs being started in threads and when did the subject of rx7/rotary knowledge get brought up? I see this as trolling and stiring up ****.

-Andrew

Jager

iTrader: (10)

Whoa, shut the **** up there !

As I remember correctly he has tried to help you. He (being dDub114) builds his own engines and tunes them. Unless SonikRat is lying, he (Sonik) installed your charger and did all the work for you.
Come on, you don't even tune your own car. So I think you should shut the **** and NOT attack anyone on this forum.

Btw, you spent 3 to 4 grand to get a 15 second car and had someone else do all the work. So **** the **** off n00b. Quit trolling and have a nice day being the ****** that you are.

13b4me

Where is Drew's car relevant to the topic at hand? Mind your own goddamn business...

Jager

iTrader: (10)

Your supercharger isn't very unique and its just stupid loud at idle. Those people you talked about racing probably took the chance because they thought your car was about to catch fire .

Taken a chance on stuff on your car? List all the things that make you a "madman" carbuilder?

KillaKitiie

Sorry guy's but for us weight sensitive na guys im guessing that this pan weigh's more than a stamped one right? Also would this be a good pan for long term mildly modified na use?

Tech_Greek

No, he hasn't jack *** - he's done nothing but insult every bit of work I did to my car.

Yes, SonicRAT removed the old stuff for me, and did do the beginning work, but as I recall he left it without it running right...which doesn't mean he did all the work him self, I do pay other people to do stuff I KNOW has to be working for work the next day and that I can't just venture out to learn that night and be up for work the next day (as SonicRAT will tell you)...I've already taken it back together once and put it back together.

As for the idle, I like it, so **** off.

Maybe you didn't realize that I spent half of that, whoops nice facts *******.

The funny thing is, my dad was on here the other night, has been building engines more than anyone here, has done all his own mechanic work, and has restored a first gen that works great...but wait, he makes a statement about the fuel pump sock being filled with rust and you ******** do the exact same thing you did to me, you denied and attacked his every word...guess what it was the guys fuel pump sock.

I'm not trolling, you idiots are the one sitting there flamming pineapple and all I'm trying to do is help the people and not stop making products for our cars, because I for one LIKE THE ******* PRODUCTS.

As I recall, he did the work for Honda Hater too, but hey, who am I to pay someone, I should do something else with my hard earned money fixing your damn computers that you know nothing about.