2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

alky injection

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-03-10, 09:27 PM
  #1  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
66 impala's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: wilm,nc
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Question alky injection

i have an base model with a full 88 tII swap and my buddy is selling an alchohol injection kit for really cheap that i an contemplating on getting. I was wondering if anyone on here is running a kit and how do the rotarys like it? A quick overview of my mods are 88 13bt, bnr stage 3 (14psi), full rb exhaust and greddy fmic.
Old 01-03-10, 11:13 PM
  #2  
It means 12A all ways^

iTrader: (20)
 
12AllWays's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Northern IN
Posts: 769
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 66 impala
i have an base model with a full 88 tII swap and my buddy is selling an alchohol injection kit for really cheap that i an contemplating on getting. I was wondering if anyone on here is running a kit and how do the rotarys like it? A quick overview of my mods are 88 13bt, bnr stage 3 (14psi), full rb exhaust and greddy fmic.
Rotarys love it. Makes intake charge cooler and helps with detonation. As well as ups octane number if 50/50 water meth is used.

If its a complete working kit, I would get it. But I already have one...
Old 01-04-10, 12:03 AM
  #3  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
ditto. i have a complete kit that i run. its awesome. i opted to just run water ( as i dont run much boost ) but i inject gobs of it before the turbo right after the air filter.
Old 01-04-10, 03:55 AM
  #4  
Rx2 > FD

iTrader: (10)
 
sen2two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida, Orlando
Posts: 3,359
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
im running M5 nozzle (500cc) 50/50 water meth mix injecting at 7-8 psi. and im running 11-12 psi on stock turbo/intercooler/ecu, ect...

love it... best choice i ever made.
Old 01-04-10, 08:23 AM
  #5  
Full Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
66 impala's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: wilm,nc
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
im getting this kit http://www.rjcracing.com/SMC_Alcohol...injection.html its the universal which prolly wasnt used but for 5 passes down the track on a buick grand national. He wants $160 for it. Where should i put the nozzle? In the charge piping or the intake?

Last edited by 66 impala; 01-04-10 at 08:26 AM.
Old 01-04-10, 09:04 AM
  #6  
No Pistons

iTrader: (10)
 
rnz520's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Culpeper, VA
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
if you could do both do both
Old 01-04-10, 10:05 AM
  #7  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Originally Posted by 66 impala
im getting this kit http://www.rjcracing.com/SMC_Alcohol...injection.html its the universal which prolly wasnt used but for 5 passes down the track on a buick grand national. He wants $160 for it. Where should i put the nozzle? In the charge piping or the intake?
put it before the turbo.

i dont like the kit though. its way better to save up and get a kit.

aquamist sells kits for hella cheap if you buy a discounted system.
Old 01-04-10, 11:11 AM
  #8  
rotorhead

iTrader: (3)
 
arghx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: cold
Posts: 16,182
Received 429 Likes on 263 Posts
there's a whole section in this forum for alky
Old 01-04-10, 11:36 AM
  #9  
Rotorhead

 
Evil Aviator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia, USA
Posts: 9,136
Likes: 0
Received 39 Likes on 33 Posts
It is commonly called "Auxiliary Injection" (AI) on this forum. Here is the subforum:
https://www.rx7club.com/forumdisplay...prune=-1&f=173
Old 01-04-10, 11:55 AM
  #10  
It means 12A all ways^

iTrader: (20)
 
12AllWays's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Northern IN
Posts: 769
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 66 impala
im getting this kit http://www.rjcracing.com/SMC_Alcohol...injection.html its the universal which prolly wasnt used but for 5 passes down the track on a buick grand national. He wants $160 for it. Where should i put the nozzle? In the charge piping or the intake?
Spray it before the intake in the IC piping... But if you choose to spray before the turbo make sure you only spray water.
Old 01-04-10, 02:58 PM
  #11  
Rotary $ > AMG $

iTrader: (7)
 
jackhild59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: And the horse he rode in on...
Posts: 3,783
Received 24 Likes on 23 Posts
Originally Posted by 12AllWays
Spray it before the intake in the IC piping... But if you choose to spray before the turbo make sure you only spray water.
Why only water if before the turbo?
Old 01-04-10, 08:10 PM
  #12  
whats going on?

iTrader: (1)
 
SirCygnus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: atlanta ga
Posts: 4,929
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
i dont know. people do it all the time.
Old 01-04-10, 09:44 PM
  #13  
Alcohol Fueled!

iTrader: (2)
 
J-Rat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Hood River oregon
Posts: 11,093
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I did it for years but now I am jumping on the E85 Bandwagon.
Old 01-05-10, 12:49 AM
  #14  
Rx2 > FD

iTrader: (10)
 
sen2two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida, Orlando
Posts: 3,359
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Originally Posted by jackhild59
Why only water if before the turbo?
the reason beind it is methanol is VERY corrosive. if you inject methenol pre-turbo, it will in time, damage the blades on the compressor.

there are other reasons also, but this is one i know for sure. just keep it safe and only inject water pre-turbo. and keep the meth post-turbo...
Old 01-05-10, 12:51 AM
  #15  
Rx2 > FD

iTrader: (10)
 
sen2two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida, Orlando
Posts: 3,359
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Originally Posted by J-Rat
I did it for years but now I am jumping on the E85 Bandwagon.
E85+ water pre-turbo + Meth post-turbo + intercooler = ICE breathing unbreakable engine!


lol...
Old 01-06-10, 10:22 PM
  #16  
Senior Member

iTrader: (4)
 
BigTurbo74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by sen2two
the reason beind it is methanol is VERY corrosive. if you inject methenol pre-turbo, it will in time, damage the blades on the compressor.

there are other reasons also, but this is one i know for sure. just keep it safe and only inject water pre-turbo. and keep the meth post-turbo...
Meth pre-turbo doesn't damage the blades.
Old 01-06-10, 10:38 PM
  #17  
It means 12A all ways^

iTrader: (20)
 
12AllWays's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Northern IN
Posts: 769
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BigTurbo74
Meth pre-turbo doesn't damage the blades.
I too have read that meth sprayed pre-turbo can eventually cause damage... Do you have anything proving otherwise?
Old 01-06-10, 10:56 PM
  #18  
Rx2 > FD

iTrader: (10)
 
sen2two's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida, Orlando
Posts: 3,359
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Originally Posted by BigTurbo74
Meth pre-turbo doesn't damage the blades.
yes it does. do not spread wrong info here. theres enough bad advice floating around...
Old 01-07-10, 01:12 AM
  #19  
Senior Member

iTrader: (4)
 
BigTurbo74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by 12AllWays
I too have read that meth sprayed pre-turbo can eventually cause damage... Do you have anything proving otherwise?
If the mist isn't fine enough it will damage it. I have been running it for years without problem, is that proof enough? There are many others too...
Old 01-07-10, 09:52 AM
  #20  
FC since 99

iTrader: (2)
 
stylEmon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: PHL
Posts: 2,712
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Meth pre-turbo doesn't damage the blades.
I have one Pre-Turbo and one Pre-Throttle Body. The Pre-Turbo is smaller nozzle, finer mist.
After 12k miles, there is NO sign of corrosion.

I'm running 50/50

I am sure that after 50k there will be some signs, but so what if I have to replace JUST the compressor blade every 50k miles... that's 20 years with the amount I drive my 7...

Just go read the AI section, people are doing REAL R&D over there on this subject and there are some real smart guys figuring this stuff out.
Old 01-07-10, 01:46 PM
  #21  
Junior Member
 
bsecured's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ontario
Posts: 39
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If u ran water only, what kind of water?? (Not tap water, I hope)
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Logan Reinisch
General Rotary Tech Support
44
09-17-18 12:20 PM
LongDuck
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
12
10-07-15 08:12 PM
eplusz
General Rotary Tech Support
15
10-07-15 04:04 PM
spokanerxdude
Megasquirt Forum
3
10-06-15 12:28 PM



Quick Reply: alky injection



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:10 PM.