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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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afm removal

is there a way to romove the afm using the stock ecu or is it a have to have thang can i make it to were itsin my intercooler pipe instead infront ofmy turbo? its a s5 by the way thanks ahead of time
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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look into the rtek 2.1 ecu. they are about to produce the ecu upgrade that will remove the afm.

im not sure how long it will be until they make it for the s5 TII though
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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why? The only reason to remove it is if you went standalone and you can set up your car without the AFM.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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you can run if after the turbo, but boost condition will give lean maps
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7 FC TII
look into the rtek 2.1 ecu. they are about to produce the ecu upgrade that will remove the afm.

im not sure how long it will be until they make it for the s5 TII though
JESUS!!!! I can't wait until they do!
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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i've been waiting at least 2 years. Give up, go Megasquirt.
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Why do you need to get rid of it?
It's the most accurate means of measuring how much air is getting into the engine, and now you want to get rid of that?
That is what is preventing you from blowing everything up!


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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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getting rid of it because it takes up room = fail

getting rid of it because your going to switch to 3 bar map = win
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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i cant go megasquirt ,s5 front cover, but will changeing to a three bar get rid of it if so how that what i really was going after
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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You can control the MOP with a megasquirt, you'd just need to build it to accomidate it. Its a DIY computer........so DIY.

There's no way to remove it without switching to some form of standalone - be it a megasquirt, haltech, whatever. I don't know anything about the Rtek, never used one and never will. If they come up with one eventually that will elminate the AFM, thenits going to essentially be an entirely new computer anyways since it will have to be mapped in a different format from stock(speed density).

I've read a thread about one person eliminating it with the e-manage ultimate, but thats a complete and utter waste of time. For the price you could buy any entry level standlone and have infinitely more control.

Short answer? no, you can't on a stock ECU.

You can (as mentioned) install it in the IC piping, works quite well. You need some form of crude fuel control like an S-AFC however do compensate.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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^ Is anyone successfully running the S5 OMP off the megasquirt?
I'm sure we can get to Mars, but no one has pulled it off yet...
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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^ Is anyone successfully running the S5 OMP off the megasquirt?
I'm sure we can get to Mars, but no one has pulled it off yet...
Not that I'm aware of, I'm simply pointing out its *possible* its not exactly as complicated as flying to mars. Its an electric pump for cripes sakes.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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so go with the S4 front cover and the mech OMP.

I did find this, and I PMed this MOD so we'll see.

https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...50&postcount=7
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WingsofWar
getting rid of it because it takes up room = fail
Using that logic with other items that take up room...

FMIC = fail
Big turbo = fail
Upgraded radiator = fail
Big brake kit = fail

Therefore, your logic = fail. Nice try though.

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Not that I'm aware of, I'm simply pointing out its *possible* its not exactly as complicated as flying to mars. Its an electric pump for cripes sakes.
The main difference between flying to Mars and running the OMP off the MS is that somebody has actually accomplished (unmanned) flying to Mars.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
Using that logic with other items that take up room...

FMIC = fail
Big turbo = fail
Upgraded radiator = fail
Big brake kit = fail

Therefore, your logic = fail. Nice try though.
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engine = fail , buy a bicycle
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