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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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AE Overrated?

Everyone keeps going around saying how they want to restore their AE to original condition, and keep it stock and all, and everyone is all up in arms when someone puts aftermarket parts on them. Is it me, or are they just overrated, and unless the extra few AE parts make it get high resale values like its a collectors item, they aren't what everyone makes them out to be?
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Overrated.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by Madrx7racer
Overrated.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Uhhh.

I own one, and while I think it's special, and does incur a little bit of a price increase when purchasing, I'm still gonna have to say that it's your damn car, who cares if it's stock?
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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I'm just questioning the reasoning behind all this hype over the car like its going to some day regain its original value or something.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Ocelot
I'm just questioning the reasoning behind all this hype over the car like its going to some day regain its original value or something.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Unless you are a hardcore rotary enthusiast (who isn't ) and want to collect every bit of rotary car history then i'd say it's important to keep it stock. However I doubt they will ever become collectable/valuable no matter how rare it is.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Its just nice to own one of 1500 cars. I dont think its overrated. But ask Evil Aviator, he thinks they are...
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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Depends on how you think of them. OF the 88 T2's, if you got an original w/original drivetrain, you will probably have a car worth more than a regular 88 T2.

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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Almost every single 10th I have worked on has been the biggest piece of ****. Seriously...people treat them worse than the regular t2 models, and certainly worse than say a nonturbo base. You'll have things wrong and rigged up on the average 10th anny that you've never seen before and will never see again. Mufflers hanging off, wires patched in the engine bay, injectors from 2 or 3 different models (not the same one), dashes be bubbled up, 2 or 3 different color windows (replaced with non AE version), just all kinds of odd ****.

And of course you get to deal with peeling paint like a ****, and a shift **** disentigrated to the point you don't even want to put your hand on it. And seats that look like the owner must have had teeth in his ***.

They seem to be the worst mistreated of all the 7's, at least the several I have seen firsthand. Turbo II's are usually ratted out more than na's, but 10th's are the worst of the worst unless you get one that someone actually cared about.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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... And seats that look like the owner must have had teeth in his ***....


An AE is a collectors item, the few that preserve them will typically keep low miles on the car, have every peice of documentation that came with the car Etc. If you can get a car that just needs some help and has all this information it can still be just as valuable. Might have to get the dentist to pull the teeth outta your *** tho.

So IMO, If the car is busted, restoring it isn't going to help much, so mod all you like. However if it's been maintained and has low miles, preserve it. I can only imagine the value going up if kept well preserved.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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Re: AE Overrated?

Originally posted by Ocelot
Everyone keeps going around saying how they want to restore their AE to original condition, and keep it stock and all, and everyone is all up in arms when someone puts aftermarket parts on them.
That is because the only thing that defines the 10AE is its aesthetic factory trim. If you take that away, then it is just another 88 TII (with headlight sqirters).

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Its just nice to own one of 1500 cars. I dont think its overrated. But ask Evil Aviator, he thinks they are...
It is overpriced by some of the owners who live in LaLa Land, but not necessarily overrated. The fact is that the 10AE is the top of the line FC sold in America. IMO, if any FC is overrated, it is the GTUs.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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i own a ae with the ae key,i sure the hell didn't restore it to stock and keep it as a collectable its a rx7 that needs to see the open roads and use it for what is was designed for. my pic should say it all.

https://www.rx7club.com/photo/showph...sort=1&cat=500
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Both GTus' I've driven were twice the car as any 10th anny, unless it was really built up.

BTW, the top of the line FC was either the s5 t2 or the s5 vert. Both costed more and had available options like abs and airbag that the 10th did not have. You don't see many people asking to buy 10th annys but you do see tons of people asking to buy the s5 t2.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Re: Re: AE Overrated?

Yo,

Originally posted by Evil Aviator
IMO, if any FC is overrated, it is the GTUs.

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by RotaryResurrection
Both costed more and had available options like abs and airbag that the 10th did not have.
I have ABS though


I do agree with you, most AE's that haven't been taken care of are in alot worse shape from what I've seen...
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Yours must have been special ordered with it. I have never seen or heard of a 10th with abs otherwise. Nothing to brag about now, but back in the day when it came out that was top of the line.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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Almost every single 10th I have worked on has been the biggest piece of ****. Seriously...people treat them worse than the regular t2 models, and certainly worse than say a nonturbo base. You'll have things wrong and rigged up on the average 10th anny that you've never seen before and will never see again. Mufflers hanging off, wires patched in the engine bay, injectors from 2 or 3 different models (not the same one), dashes be bubbled up, 2 or 3 different color windows (replaced with non AE version), just all kinds of odd ****.
what a stupid f*&%ing comment! Ya people in general are more inclined to abuse white cars. White cars are more difficult to repair correctly due to the glare the paint generates. Black cars...well they see the least abuse. WTF!

My 10AE is in excellent shape, all original. Is it worth more than a T2? Yes. It's one of 1500 and that's the only reason why. But lets not forget these are still poor man's sports cars, so who even gives a poop if a 10AE is worth $500 more than a T2.

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Stupid f&^%ing comment huh? THis is based upon my experience with about 6-7 10th anny's that I have personally seen, worked on, and driven. How many do you have experience with?
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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I have experience with one.
You have experience with seven.
Between the 2 of us, we have experience with less than 1% of all the AE's produced, yet you assert that people treat them worse.
Sorry for the $%^&ing, but I really think that's some terrible reasoning.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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I love AE's, and I've always wanted one, just because I liked the color scheme and the added features.

But I certainly don't think they are a collector car, like a lot of people seem to think. Last I checked there was not a huge, high dollar market for FC's of any kind.

I would never call it a poor man's sports car. It was made in 1988 and for that time it wasn't cheap or cheaply made. The 87 TII was import car of the year....
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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If you can pick one up for <$5000, it's a poor man's sports car. If I wasn't so poor, I'd be driving an Rx-8 or an S2000. Let's call it an "affordable alternative sports car". Regardless, they're sweet cars for the money.

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Re: Re: Re: AE Overrated?

Originally posted by RotaryResurrection
BTW, the top of the line FC was either the s5 t2 or the s5 vert.
Originally posted by RarestRX
Your momma!
Thank you both for proving my point.

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I hope you are not serious.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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Between the 2 of us, we have experience with less than 1% of all the AE's produced, yet you assert that people treat them worse.
Yes, and probably experience with about 1000 FC's in general. So you could say I am probably one of the best judges of what is common and what is not, and how things usually are with these cars.

but I really think that's some terrible reasoning.
Not really. Any professional poll/research conducted for anything anywhere in the world is based upon a small control group of candidates that likely reflect the characteristics of a larger group which cannot be measured.

In other words, I have experience with 7 10th's, and all of them were pieces of **** except perhaps one. So I feel that makes me qualified to say that a large percentage of them are pieces of ****, especially in comparison to the other models that I work on and have experience with.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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its all about you and how you take care of it. Sure my AE might be a peicer but it is getting rebuilt, who cares of the value, you own a peice of history. I take just as good care of my rx-8 as I do my AE and I dont care what the value is as long as I am able to jump into any one of my cars and take off.

lets just all go out and have fun
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