AE Overrated?
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Hey Kevin, did all those 10th AE's had peeling paint or just some?
My 10th AE has peeling and flaky paint in some areas as well. I remember Icemark saying the 10th AE's had the worst paint next to the S5 coupes.
My 10th AE has peeling and flaky paint in some areas as well. I remember Icemark saying the 10th AE's had the worst paint next to the S5 coupes.
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i had the same problem the paint started to peel off the hood and roof, one of my friends also has a ae and his is peeling in the same spots. it sucked so thats when i decided to get the car repainted.
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You'll have things wrong and rigged up on the average 10th anny that you've never seen before and will never see again. Mufflers hanging off, wires patched in the engine bay, injectors from 2 or 3 different models (not the same one), dashes be bubbled up
Please provide what you consider a valid reason for each of the assertions you made above why a 10AE would be more likely to experience these problems. - and don't say "people treat them worse".
I'll help you out..
A 10AE muffler is more likely to be hanging off because (your reasoning here)
A 10 AE is more likely to have wires patched in the engine bay because (your reasoning here)
10AE dashboards bubble faster because (your reason here)
Not really. Any professional poll/research conducted for anything anywhere in the world is based upon a small control group of candidates that likely reflect the characteristics of a larger group which cannot be measured.
Your likely being more critical of AE's simply because they're AE's, are rare, and supposed to be special. You notice thier condition more. You can only compare them to other S4 cars. They're no different than any other 88 T2, and will depreciate no differently. Unless ofcouse you can tell us why they do in fact depreciate faster. I'll be real interested to here that.
Stupid comment. I've waisted enough time.
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Re: Re: AE Overrated?
Originally posted by Evil Aviator
That is because the only thing that defines the 10AE is its aesthetic factory trim. If you take that away, then it is just another 88 TII (with headlight sqirters).
It is overpriced by some of the owners who live in LaLa Land, but not necessarily overrated. The fact is that the 10AE is the top of the line FC sold in America. IMO, if any FC is overrated, it is the GTUs.
That is because the only thing that defines the 10AE is its aesthetic factory trim. If you take that away, then it is just another 88 TII (with headlight sqirters).
It is overpriced by some of the owners who live in LaLa Land, but not necessarily overrated. The fact is that the 10AE is the top of the line FC sold in America. IMO, if any FC is overrated, it is the GTUs.
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i personally think that unless its a very low mileage 10th ae theres really no sense in goin through all the bs of restoring it to original condition unless thats how you want the car to be for you. because if i were to buy it as a collector item id rather buy one with say 50k miles on it as opposed to buying one with 140k or whatever. and as far as the GTUs goes i do believe theres a little too much hype about them. i own one and i love it. but it all depends on your personal preferences in a car. i like it alot more performance wise and all better than my gxl but as far as creature comforts and luxuries i like my gxl a little more. sorry if you all think this is a stupid f&^$*ng comment but there my $.02
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Originally posted by RotaryResurrection
every 10th I have seen has either been repainted or has peeling paint, even if it is just small spots. Most are the size of a baseball or larger.
every 10th I have seen has either been repainted or has peeling paint, even if it is just small spots. Most are the size of a baseball or larger.
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the two I've seen in town are as fallows
1. modded to **** with a fmic and tripple a pillar gauge pod etc... peeling paint.
2. gulp this one pissed me off but everyone on this forum said it was ok. This older guy had a mint and when I say mint I mean engine looked like it came off the show room with the battery box still intact, the seats where the best looking black leather seats I've seen for an 88. The car in short looked brand new. So he descides to take it to an autox *cough* dumb *** *cough*. Well while he was there he blew a coolant seal and overheated his engine. Anyways at least an engine is replaceable.
1. modded to **** with a fmic and tripple a pillar gauge pod etc... peeling paint.
2. gulp this one pissed me off but everyone on this forum said it was ok. This older guy had a mint and when I say mint I mean engine looked like it came off the show room with the battery box still intact, the seats where the best looking black leather seats I've seen for an 88. The car in short looked brand new. So he descides to take it to an autox *cough* dumb *** *cough*. Well while he was there he blew a coolant seal and overheated his engine. Anyways at least an engine is replaceable.
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I've owned 2 10ae's and i'd have to say that it really just depends on the car's history. Example: my first AE. It had a real long owners list, and even a couple owners that didn't even bother registering it while they had it. It was torn up, bad. My current one has been owned by a total of four people including myself, and has obviously been taken care of, and so now its exterior condition is one of the best of an FC in general that i've ever seen. I would have to agree with Kevin however on his overall statement. The majority of the 10ae's i've seen have been junk. My theory is that because there was only 1500 of these cars made, there are not enough of them to counter the torn up ones. Not helping that was the seemingly poor paint quality that they were given. The regular TII's however had IMO better paint, and theres enough of them that for ever one that you see torn up, theres probably one near by thats nice.
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I'm still wondering why 10th AE's had worse paint? Whats the reason? Just a specialized car that Mazda had to cut costs on somewhere through the production of it?
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I really doubt that the reasoning behind the paint is because of budget problem..still possible i guess though. I'm just betting that it was a paint mixture that just wasn't as durable as the other paints. Who knows, i could be way off. Likely am.
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Originally posted by hondahater
the two I've seen in town are as fallows
1. modded to **** with a fmic and tripple a pillar gauge pod etc... peeling paint.
2. gulp this one pissed me off but everyone on this forum said it was ok. This older guy had a mint and when I say mint I mean engine looked like it came off the show room with the battery box still intact, the seats where the best looking black leather seats I've seen for an 88. The car in short looked brand new. So he descides to take it to an autox *cough* dumb *** *cough*. Well while he was there he blew a coolant seal and overheated his engine. Anyways at least an engine is replaceable.
the two I've seen in town are as fallows
1. modded to **** with a fmic and tripple a pillar gauge pod etc... peeling paint.
2. gulp this one pissed me off but everyone on this forum said it was ok. This older guy had a mint and when I say mint I mean engine looked like it came off the show room with the battery box still intact, the seats where the best looking black leather seats I've seen for an 88. The car in short looked brand new. So he descides to take it to an autox *cough* dumb *** *cough*. Well while he was there he blew a coolant seal and overheated his engine. Anyways at least an engine is replaceable.
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I"m from lake charles, oh ****! your not the guy that goes to school at sowela huh? I always see your car there and wanna chat but I never see you. Man thats awesome I was going to write a note today saying the rx7 club knows about you Man we need to meet up so you can take me for a drive!
ps. that old man was probably the guy that blew the colant seals. Do you guys live by the burton coliseum?
ps. that old man was probably the guy that blew the colant seals. Do you guys live by the burton coliseum?
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After seeing an AE in Ohio during last summer, I knew that I had to have one. If they're in mint condition they turn heads more than any other car I've ever seen. When I went to pick mine up in Kansas over the fall, the moment I saw it turn the corner and come into the gas station I was waiting at, I seriously felt honored to own such a beautiful car. It also helped that the car at the time only had 12000 miles, and now still only has 15,000. I'll never get rid of it no matter what.
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Please provide what you consider a valid reason for each of the assertions you made above why a 10AE would be more likely to experience these problems. - and don't say "people treat them worse".
Yes, and probably experience with about 1000 FC's in general. So you could say I am probably one of the best judges of what is common and what is not, and how things usually are with these cars.
...was that a random sample? You took 7 serial #'s at random and inspected each car?
You notice thier condition more. You can only compare them to other S4 cars. They're no different than any other 88 T2, and will depreciate no differently. Unless ofcouse you can tell us why they do in fact depreciate faster.
Why don't you let it go. This post was put here for opinions, I posted mine, along with some facts to back it up, and you're still starting ****. Instead, just post your *opinion*, and let everything else go. People can make up their own damn minds. I have made mine.
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I believe rotaryresurrection because if you think about it, the 10ae has probably been through twice as many owners because of the fact that it is a 10ae. 10ae is more in demand I would emagine for the reason that there where only 1500 made (witch I swear there are more than 1500 ) so if a car has seen twice as many owners its probably seen twice as much abuse. just my .02