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Old 07-01-10, 03:37 PM
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Please everyone remember this car at 7stock, Mazfest, and HIN Anahiem(if anyone is going). This is the first car I have ever had, I got it when I was 16 and I have loved it ever since. This mine and my dads first time really customizing a car and we would really like to win a trophy, even if its third place. It all started when I was probably 11-12 and my dad picked up a Yamaha Banshee. We were putting on new parts ever day and fixing up the whole quad. It started with 56HP at the motor and ended with 86HP at the wheels. Then we started getting in to fixing up the Ford Powerstroke Diesel we used to pull our stuff. My dad had I think 4 diesels, all with chips, 4 inch exhaust and intake. Then my dad came across this rx7 and bought it- 10AE 50k miles $5500. When he was telling me about it he told me it had a rotory engine, I didn't know what that was(I thought it was what came in a bombadier ds650 which is a rotax)lol. He told me that my aunt had an 85 GSL-SE and it was the best car he had ever driven. Anyway now I know a good bit about the car thanx to fellow 7club member and books. I keep my car clean and I take exreme pride in ownership and I would love to sit a little trophy on my dash at car shows.
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Your going to be sticking with the top mount huh, that thing is going to be a mean sleeper, I like it!

Your going to have to let us know how the stock IC handles that T04 wheel. I really would like to know if its going to be too restrictive.

BTW, I like the steering wheel, and you can never go wrong with some RFP1's.
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Everything is so shiny and new looking!

Lookin good, I like me some sleepers
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You and I have very different definitions of "custom"

What are you using for an EMS? Something with loggable of displayable AIT's I hope. I don't think the tmic is going to do it for you at higher boost levels
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There are many different levels of custom but this car is a work in progrss. One day I do want to build a nice custom mini truck on bags.

We are getting the Haltech P1000. I don't really know anything yet about ECU's or anything yet but it will be enough thats for sure.

I am a little worried about the top mount situation but we might do water injection. The reasons for not going front mount are= 1- limited money 2- don't want to mess up the bumper 3- dont want to put it in front of radiator because we aren't using and electric fan and would be to much frabrication. I would love to get a fmic don't get me wrong. A plus side to the tmic is less lag at least. I always look for the positive's.
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Originally Posted by 10yearrx7
There are many different levels of custom but this car is a work in progrss. One day I do want to build a nice custom mini truck on bags.

We are getting the Haltech P1000. I don't really know anything yet about ECU's or anything yet but it will be enough thats for sure.

I am a little worried about the top mount situation but we might do water injection. The reasons for not going front mount are= 1- limited money 2- don't want to mess up the bumper 3- dont want to put it in front of radiator because we aren't using and electric fan and would be to much frabrication. I would love to get a fmic don't get me wrong. A plus side to the tmic is less lag at least. I always look for the positive's.
the front mount is the currently limiting factor on my car. 270 rwhp @ 12 psi I hit about 160*F intake temps after the intercooler... I would definitely recommend doing something about the intercooler. water injection would help, maybe have a water sprayer on the intercooler...
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I notice you want to "hit the track". If by track you mean a road course circuit then keep the top mount you are better off. Front mounts just cause overheating engines on FCs especially. You end up blocking all your engine cooling on an FC. (both oil and water)

Even the smart road racing FD guys who have side mounted oil coolers that would not be blocked by a front mount dont run em, they run a kind of v-mount type.

Front mount's belong on street and drag cars only...

When i see a front mount on a road course track turbo RX-7 i wonder why the owner likes rebuilding his engines constantly...

There are trade offs. For turbo cars that idle in traffic a lot and or wait in ques for drag or autox runs, top mounts are bad as they heat soak. But for road racing they are fine because they always have air flow, and they are better because you have plenty of virgin air hitting your oil cooler and radiator. The former being the most important.

The ultimate of course is a well engineered v-mount as you can potentially avoid the problems of both front and top mount.
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Originally Posted by eage8
the front mount is the currently limiting factor on my car.
*should say "top mount"

Originally Posted by RockLobster
I notice you want to "hit the track". If by track you mean a road course circuit then keep the top mount you are better off. Front mounts just cause overheating engines on FCs especially. You end up blocking all your engine cooling on an FC. (both oil and water)

Even the smart road racing FD guys who have side mounted oil coolers that would not be blocked by a front mount dont run em, they run a kind of v-mount type.

Front mount's belong on street and drag cars only...

When i see a front mount on a road course track turbo RX-7 i wonder why the owner likes rebuilding his engines constantly...

There are trade offs. For turbo cars that idle in traffic a lot and or wait in ques for drag or autox runs, top mounts are bad as they heat soak. But for road racing they are fine because they always have air flow, and they are better because you have plenty of virgin air hitting your oil cooler and radiator. The former being the most important.

The ultimate of course is a well engineered v-mount as you can potentially avoid the problems of both front and top mount.
have you actually tracked a turbo FC with the stock mount intercooler with any sort of boost going through it? The stock intercooler just isn't big enough to cool the charge.

I agree with you that big front mounts are a bad idea for tracking a car, but a small to medium size front mount will be fine especially if you improve the ducting.

V-mount would be best and there is 1 kit that's available and a few more in development or you could just make your own.
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Your getting ahead of the OP with suggesting a V Mount, V mounts are not practical for the amount of daily use this car will be seeing. As the OP stated they will be sticking with the top mount for the time being partly Because of money, so no way a V mount is an option. I think the top mount will be fine, this is the OP's first car after all.

10yearrx7, I think you’re doing great with your choices for this car, the top mount won’t be that bad (a little restrictive, yea but whatever) and with the standalone and injectors you’re getting, you'll have tons of room to upgrade your car once you have more knowledge of rotaries and cars in general.
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I track my car often with the top mount, I'm a little heatsoaked waiting in the pits, but it's not too bad once I get a few laps in. My water and oil temps stayed happy. I know a few people running front mounts at the track, but they also have better water and oil cooling systems.
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Most of the decisions being made are Mazdatrix' decisions because my dad and I aren't sure whats best. We basically dropped it off and said- here, motors blown, needs rebuild and we would like to see 300whp- and they are taking care of it. They said the top mount will be perfectly fine so i'm hoping thats true. If the money was there trust me I would go V-mount just because it looks so awesome lol.

Just remember the main purpose of the car is getting to college and to work once I can find a job. At the end of everything I want it to be a subtle but eye catching FC that I can cruise in but also smoke most any street car when they come rollin' up trying to be hard ****. A couple months ago I had an S13 roll up behind me and I just punched it and he stayed on my bumper the entire time and probably could've passed. So at the stop light we talk and decide to stop at the gas station and check out each others cars. He had a completly gutted Nissan S13 with a SR20 under the hood with minor bolt ons, . The plot of this story is- When I punch it I want everything in that mirror to dissapear.
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i would drop in a water/methanol injection kit if you plan to keep the top mount with that hybrid T04. the IC isn't going to be very efficient much over stock power levels unless you can cool the intake charge and help keep the motor together.
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I believe we are going with water injection but i'm not sure yet. Once the motor is back in we will talk to mazdatrix about it.
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The motor is going in tomorow, and my dad and I will be heading down to see the progress and get pics next week. Can any one say LS2 coils?
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Originally Posted by RockLobster
I notice you want to "hit the track". If by track you mean a road course circuit then keep the top mount you are better off. Front mounts just cause overheating engines on FCs especially. You end up blocking all your engine cooling on an FC. (both oil and water)

Even the smart road racing FD guys who have side mounted oil coolers that would not be blocked by a front mount dont run em, they run a kind of v-mount type.

Front mount's belong on street and drag cars only...

When i see a front mount on a road course track turbo RX-7 i wonder why the owner likes rebuilding his engines constantly...

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The ultimate of course is a well engineered v-mount as you can potentially avoid the problems of both front and top mount.

Would a large FMIC road race FC be better if it had water/meth injection pre-turbo?
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^If you upgrade the oil and water cooling systems, sure. You can do anything as long as your engine vitals stay happy. There's no right or wrong.
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More pics!!!!!!!!!!





In all its glory....


Exedy stage 2


RC Engineering 2000cc secondaries


Haltech p1000 with full engine harness


Sorry for bad pics, my dad stopped in while he was at work and he only had his phone. Nikon D5000 pics soon to come!

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One more shot of the turbo for fun. I previously said it was only a t04 wheel but it also has a t04 compressor housing I believe, whatever it is its not stock and I like.

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