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Old 05-27-05, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by karism
Did you get the jet kit yet?

Jeff20b ,and GSL-se addict is right about the cranking speed,and vacuum.

I had the same problem with my bridge,some questions helped me solve it.

I`am going to ask some questions,please answer all of them,so we can help you solve this

Let me ask the obvious:
1How old is your battery?
2Is it properly charged before attempting to start it?
3Is it a large/factory sized battery,or a small one?
4What plugs do you have in?
5Are all the plugs even coloured?Or is the front/rear rotor darker or lighter?
6Did you replace all the hard seals in the locations they came out of?

Karis
i did get the jet kit and messed around with jetting and tuning, but i realized that my carb may have been shitty, becuase it had a fuel metering plate instead of jets for the secondaries, so i stole my brother's holley 465 that he had on his 13b (most likely SP).

1.) not a very old battery, still putting out good voltage.
2.) charged overnight before starts. (sometimes charger is set to 75v starting setting while cranking)
3.) large factory sized battery.
4.) just put in new NGK's
5.) the plugs are all a healthy grey color (unless i flood it...then they are kinda wet...but still a greyish)
6.) this is where i may have gone wrong. during the teardown process i got things a bit mixed up, but the seals seemed to fit well in the places i put them back into. also, these *are* different rotor housings than the rest of the engine parts, because the other ones had pretty good signs of wear on the edges.
Old 05-27-05, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Elysian
this is what i'm wondering... were ur rotors clearanced at all? how easy were the apex seals to move in all the grooves? if it was a tight fit ur apex seals might be sticking... but i don't know... just my guess... as for your idle issue... my 7 idles at 1.8k now... after i finally got it running, with the holley 600 cfm i got on it... i can't get it any lower than that, but it runs great, and i'm real happy with it... takes a bit of cranking to start, and mines not even a bridge port, just a street ported 6 port... i've not had to pour oil down the carb to start it tho... i think used seals can make a huge difference, and depending how clean the grooves for the seals were might effect ur compression like that... good luck with it whatever you do, i wish i could help more, but ur quite a ways away from me...
the rotors were *not* clearanced.

the apex seals were relatively easy to move in the grooves. i doubt they are sticking. i *could* see the seals with mirrors in the spark plug holes, they dont look to be sticking.

i let the car run for just over an hour last night, and im gonna go let it run for another hour after school today, then check my compression to see if its gone up at all.
Old 05-27-05, 05:01 PM
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Well, if it's running for longer, I'm going to have to say things are starting to look up!
Old 05-27-05, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jays83gsl
Well, if it's running for longer, I'm going to have to say things are starting to look up!
its never really been a problem of not being able to run, its just that it *wont* stay running under 2300rpms and will *not* start up after its been running or without the help of oil.
Old 05-27-05, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bkm_rx7
i did get the jet kit and messed around with jetting and tuning, but i realized that my carb may have been shitty, becuase it had a fuel metering plate instead of jets for the secondaries, so i stole my brother's holley 465 that he had on his 13b (most likely SP).
its 600cfm, and im pretty sure it still has metering plates
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Originally Posted by mcnannay
its 600cfm, and im pretty sure it still has metering plates
yeah...it does still have metering plates...but its RB prepped and meant for a rotary.

NEW COMPRESSION RESULTS:
my last compression numbers were when the car was cold, this time i decided to test the compression when the car was warm (like you are supposed to) and got the following results:
FRONT ROTOR - 35psi
REAR ROTOR - 25psi

will driving the car help at all? is my engine a lost cause?
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I hate to say this, but you might end up needing to replace your apex seals....
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Originally Posted by Kentetsu
I hate to say this, but you might end up needing to replace your apex seals....
i think you may be right. i pulled apart my engine that used to be in my car last night, and looking at these apex seals, i think my old ones may have been trash...



oh well...live and learn eh? at least i learned a ton and will get to try again

WISH ME LUCK!
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"A lesson learned is a lesson you will never need to be given again"....

It's too bad that you will have to re-open your engine again, but at least it is salvageable. Good luck with it man....
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