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Old 05-07-08, 07:45 PM
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Synthetic premix, TC-W3 - Does it have to be?

I have been using this 2 stroke oil for a while now, and though its expensive seems to burn clean, and havent noticed any issues so far (230 miles on rebuild). Mainly, I am wondering if the bottle HAS to say TC-W3 for it to be an effective friction modifier in a rotary engine.

It is called Mobil 1 Racing 2T fully synthetic oil. Here is link to specs:

http://www.mobil.com/Canada-English/...bil_1_MX2T.asp

And here is a pic of it (I know its an ebay link, its the only link I could find with a pic of it):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...Name=WDVW&rd=1

***DISCLAIMER*** I do not know who the person is that is selling the product listed on the Ebay ad, nor am I attempting to promote this seller's products over another's.

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From what I read on Mobil's site that mix should be fine. The whole tc-w3 on the bottle thing is just an easier way of knowing what will work and what wont. Your high dollar stuff there will. Most cheap 2 stroke mixes wont. Thats why we say to look for the rating on the bottle.
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what ratio do you mix?
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What rating should I be looking for?? I thought 2 stroke oil was 2 stroke oil
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TC-W3 just holds in suspension in gasoline tanks, whereas other non TC oils tend to settle, fwiw.
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Does it matter if you use synthetic or not?
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Pretty sure it doesnt matter if its syn or not. Before, I bought a gallon of the SUper Tech (walmart stuff) and didnt seem to have a problem, although it did smoke more than this stuff does.
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the TC-W3 is a certification spec. http://www.nmma.org/certification/programs/oils/
It doesn't matter whether it is natural oil or synthetic, it must meet the standards to bear the TC-W3 spec.
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yeah i have some canadian tire no synthetic and its alittle smokey not much but when you punch the throttle theres a little puff of smoke
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So then should I switch over to something else that has the TC-W3 spec, or is this stuff ok? I am running the RA OMP adapter, so its not mixed in with gas.

Edit: Hold on, that link is saying marine applications specifically, and the oil I am asking about is saying its for motorcycle use. Is this possibly why it isnt TC-W3 rated?
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