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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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Small update on my project...

Ok I trashed the 2nd gen oil cooler, gonna do something different. This is a 450 hp Perma cool oil cooler. And its fan cooled with a small flex a lite fan Also made some -10 lines , stainless steel braided ...

Let me know what everyone thinks about it
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Wow, that's a nice setup! However, oil that's too cool can be just as damaging as oil that's too hot, particularly for turbos. How does this setup regulate the temp so it's optimal?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Nice work, Mike....but lose the damn sig "novella"....
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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looking good.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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man that work looks good mike/ give me a page when you get in I want to see your new toys...
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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if you're running an oil temp gauge you should be ok. the fc oil cooler is so good the porsche guys use them

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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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The problem is the porsche guys aren't running rotaries... boingers are much easier on their oil than rotaries are.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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911's are air cooled, they are hard on thier oil. besides when was the last time you saw a mazda part as an upgrade for anything?

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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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were did you get the oil cooler?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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is it this one?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by j9fd3s
911's are air cooled, they are hard on thier oil. besides when was the last time you saw a mazda part as an upgrade for anything?

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Oh 911's.... I thought you meant 944's.

911's at least have something like 12-15 quarts of oil and a dry-sump system... Probably not a bad idea for a rotary, either.

Mazda oil coolers are frequently used for many boingers. They ARE rather large. (IE it's more than overkill for, say, an A/Sedan Mustang)
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by inittab
Wow, that's a nice setup! However, oil that's too cool can be just as damaging as oil that's too hot, particularly for turbos. How does this setup regulate the temp so it's optimal?
Well I figured its not really gonna matter, one good run and a lot of idleing, this isnt gonna be a cross country cruiser LOL I got the Haltech it has PWM's for controlling such a gaget
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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So if that is how your are going to have your oil cooler, where do you plan to stick that big ol' intercooler?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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So if that is how your are going to have your oil cooler, where do you plan to stick that big ol' intercooler?
He already put it in, straight up. He made new brackets for it and the radiator.

Am I right?
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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Yelp its all in there...

Theres was no way in hell, it would have ever fit in front of the radiator support...

I got pics somewhere...
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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Heres a pic from a couple weeks ago
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 09:47 AM
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911's at least have something like 12-15 quarts of oil and a dry-sump system... Probably not a bad idea for a rotary, either.
Since rotaries don't suffer parasitic loss from a crankshaft dipping into the oil pan, I never really saw a need for a dry-sump on a rotary. The only Exception would be a full race car, where the high G-forces could move the oil out of the pick-up tube for an extended period of time.

DIRECTFREAK THINKING OUT LOUD:

If you *really* wanted a (cheap) dry sump system, (instead of $2500 for Mazda's) - couldn't you just use the inlets and outlets for the oil cooler, and run an external oil pump with a small reservoir?

Thinking out loud over.
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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i think a rotary would benifit from having more oil, especially the turbo cars. how you would do this is another subject that i haven't found a good answer for

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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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i think a rotary would benifit from having more oil, especially the turbo cars. how you would do this is another subject that i haven't found a good answer for

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Is that your WWW in your profile? How come theres no 1st gen cosmos on there? LOL
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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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its coming, i have a gsl-se that i'm pondering a t2/cosmo swap on.

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Old Aug 2, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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its coming, i have a gsl-se that i'm pondering a t2/cosmo swap on.

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Where are you getting all those cosmo's at? You buying them from Soshin in Japan? I heard someone say you dont pay by the motor you pay by the pound!!! But they send you what they want... You can specify all rotaries tho, but some may be dud's as most were used as core engines and parts
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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Where are you getting all those cosmo's at? You buying them from Soshin in Japan? I heard someone say you dont pay by the motor you pay by the pound!!! But they send you what they want... You can specify all rotaries tho, but some may be dud's as most were used as core engines and parts
really? that would be cool. i got the 20b from fc3s.org, and the 13b was sitting in a friends shed, and more than likely the leftover t2 stuff will end up in the gsl-se

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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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http://www.soshin-j.co.jp/

Thats where they come from, you know that these guys are selling these motors for practically nothing, just imagine what the freight is on this stuff...

Hope you speak Japanese tho... Or go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr and get a ROUGH IDEA and I do mean rough.. Dunno if they are by the pound for sure, (i heard someone say that tho) but I bet your *** they will cheper than ****, considering theres like 5 middlemen in this before it gets to you...
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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How many rotary engines you need ? Damn bet theres a couple in there...

See attach.
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 09:17 PM
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Another view of a shitload of Jspec's
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