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SA/FB oil pan brace ????

Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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SA/FB oil pan brace ????

I do not know if this is the correct forum for this, I guess I will find out shortly.

Mods- this is not a for sale thread, the parts do not exist yet.

When we released the kits for the FC and FD, I received several emails asking if we would design one for the SA/FB. So, now I am in the process of laying out oil pan braces for the 12A and 13B engines, but before I go any further I figured it might be a good idea to check if these are something that 1st gen guys really want.

They would be the same design as the FC and FD kits using laser cut & CNC punched 3/16" HR steel plate, then Bright Zinc plating to prevent corrosion. The kits would come with the studs and nuts to replace the bolts as well.

Your input would be greatly appreciated. BTW the purpose of the brace is to eliminate leaks from the oil pan mating surface.

Pics of the FD kit to give you an idea:






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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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Assuming it would support the same way (to the engine mounts?) how well would that work considering we have the front mount crossbar thingy.

If i could see the design and liked it i would very likely get one cuz ive heard some good things about the fc ones
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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I'd buy one.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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I guess I should have posted a pic of the FC version, it would be similar to this but straight across where the dip is.

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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right sorry, was being thick earlier looking at the fd one going wtf is this for haha. Yea, id buy one
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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I'd buy one eventually
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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I would buy one.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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How much will these cost, roughly?
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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We would keep the price the same as all the other kits, which is $125 shipped via priority mail, which includes all the hardware, install instructions, etc..
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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So the idea is that you can get a better seal on the oil pan by being able to torque the nuts down tighter against the brace?

For $125 shipped I'd buy one. I know that every 12A I've ever had has leaked around the oil pan. That's even with a brand new oil pan gasket and silicone sealant.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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I'd eventually buy one.
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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I would buy one right away. As soon as the weather breaks i am going to fixing my pesky little oil pan gasket leak, so... This would be nice
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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id buy one...they would work great with flexing high horse power drag motors...that is nice
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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i'd get one eventually as well cause im going to be boosting my 12a soon so this would help to prevent leaks.

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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good idea i have no need for one
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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One 12A has the dowel pin leak, the other does not...neither of them or the RP street port on the engine cradle have leaks at the oil pan...guess I'm lucky...


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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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I have a stockpile of old school 'load spreaders' from early engines so I have no need of an oil pan brace. All I need in order to use these are some longer bolts and small lock washers.

I'm all that.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Glazedham42
So the idea is that you can get a better seal on the oil pan by being able to torque the nuts down tighter against the brace?

For $125 shipped I'd buy one. I know that every 12A I've ever had has leaked around the oil pan. That's even with a brand new oil pan gasket and silicone sealant.
The better sealing comes from having evenly dispersed pressure around the entire pan with the brace and the ability to have much higher torque with the studs & nuts.

Keep the questions/feedback coming. I am open for discussion,changes,ideas etc.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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im in no way knocking banzai racing, i have your engine mounts in my car
but i think this brace for the first gens motors is an unessisary, waste of money.
its definatly a plus on the FC and FD models that have the added stress of the engine mounts..
however, if you do make them im sure there will be people that will buy them
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 680RWHP12A
im in no way knocking banzai racing, i have your engine mounts in my car
but i think this brace for the first gens motors is an unessisary, waste of money.
its definatly a plus on the FC and FD models that have the added stress of the engine mounts..
however, if you do make them im sure there will be people that will buy them
That is exactly what I am trying to find out. Developing a part like this is very time consuming and costly, laser time is not cheap. So if I proceed, I would like to make sure that it is something that you need/want. I also know that the forum is not the end all and be all of the descision making process, there will always be people for and against every product manufactured for any market. Even in this thread it is already 50/50 with only a few replies.


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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 08:49 AM
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It's a smart idea, i think i would buy one.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Again, im all in, what time frame are we looking at?
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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How much do these braces typically weigh? 4-5 pounds??
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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The FC brace weighs a hair under 2 lbs (1.9), so the SE and 12A braces would be similar. This weight does not include the hardware but that is offset by all the bolts being eliminated.

We could actually have these ready to go in about 3-4 weeks. I was just finalizing the layouts, when I decided to ask what the interest level was.
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Old Feb 13, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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Since it isn't a high stress area, couldn't the metal be a tad bit thinner to get the price into the $35 to $50 range?


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